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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Legion on May 31, 2015, 05:39:17 PM
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A big thank you to the gentleman who sat across the aisle from me on Coach 29. As well as being great company on the journey there and back he promised to let Freddy have his scarf as we missed out due to being in Block 530. He was true to his word.
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The total amount I spent the whole day to watch that embarrassment of a display by a team masquerading as Aston Villa was £10 on drinks in the pub
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I snuck into a photograph with Tom Ross.
Scraping the barrel for positives, aren't I?
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Free bottle of champagne from sympathetic restaurant owner.
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I saw Colin Gibson and Tony Daley out and about outside before the game, separately. Tony looks a lot better preserved than Colin.
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My head didn't hurt as much as I thought it would this morning
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The pre-match fun at the Green Man was incredible and the best football piss-up I've ever been too.
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I meant to speak to you about that scarf Lee, he could have had mine.
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I couldn't get a ticket.
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Yep, I also saw Tony Daley at half time.
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I didn't have to get up early this morning to drive the 100 or so miles to Birmingham to watch the open top bus parade with my lad in the pissing down rain so had a lie in until about 11.
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No weekends ruined for a couple of months now. That's a positive!
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I couldn't get a ticket.
Same again.
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Spent a quality day out with my 19 year old son. A couple of pre match beers in the sunshine and a bite to eat. Felt like turning the clock back a few years when we used to spend a lot of time together.
Even queuing for the trains back we managed to see the funny side of various Chiltern Railways personnel and their total lack of knowledge as where the trains were actually going!
Probably cost me £300 for our day out, but other than the match I wouldn't change a thing
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It could have been against Chelsea/Man city.
At least most of Arsenal's players are bought by cash generated by the club.
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This is the biggest positive I saw...
“Some of the boys have already been told they won’t be here next year or they can find other clubs,”
edit. Another positive just came to me...we avoid the Europa League too - we're not ready yet and the distraction could see our league form suffer.
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Can't really glean too many positives from the final, but the two rounds before the final were probably two of my favourite games in recent times.
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Can't really glean too many positives from the final, but the two rounds before the final were probably two of my favourite games in recent times.
I didn't manage to get a ticket yesterday, and was gutted - until I actually saw the match.
For the semi final, a friend of mine managed to work a few incredibly tenuous links and managed to get us seats in Club Wembley Gold - free of charge.
I have to say, I loathe the concept of Club Wembley, but having experienced it, I can see why they allocate so many seats to it, and why so many people are happy to pay for the tickets.
I've been following us for almost 40 years and obviously have had the full rollercoaster of massive highs and incredible lows, and I know it was only a semi final, but that was a fucking brilliant match, in what was without a doubt the best seat I've ever occupied in a football match.
As I said, I was gutted at not getting one yesterday, as I couldn't find 500 quid for a ticket through an agency, but at the same time, my desire to do so was almost certainly limited by the fact that I'd had such an ace time at the semi.
I honestly struggle to remember the last time I felt so exhilarated and fucking happy as I did when I came out of that match. It was brilliant.
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Randy witnessed first hand that you need to spend to keep up with the big clubs. That must have been humiliating to see the gulf in class between our players and theirs was as wide as the Grand Canyon.
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Time heals.
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I can free up a few hours from my hard drive by deleting all that stuff from yesterday.
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Randy witnessed first hand that you need to spend to keep up with the big clubs. That must have been humiliating to see the gulf in class between our players and theirs was as wide as the Grand Canyon.
I think Randy will have blanked it out: from the shots shown on TV, I think all he'll be taking away with him is a few Royal anecdotes to share with his New York social scene.
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We won't have the burden of being called 'Aston Villa the FA Cup holders' when it comes to the 3rd round draw, phew dodged a bullet there.
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Positive is we got there and a lot of people had a lot of fun getting to this point and the day itself. That far be it from once every 15 years win or lose we should be doing everything to repeat the experience of a cup final.
Aside from that the final signalled the end of Season 5 in a row of mainly horrible football.
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We haven't got to find the money to go back there and play Chelsea in August.
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We remain classy, whilst others remain classless.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/9871104/arsenal-midfielder-jack-wilshere-sings-abusive-song-about-rivals-tottenham
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Aside from that the final signalled the end of Season 5 in a row of mainly horrible football.
I've been thinking about that a bit recently. Is it four seasons of horrible guff or five?
At the time, the Houllier season was pretty horrible, but it was a lot better for a bit at the end, and we actually finished ninth.
I genuinely can't make my mind up what I think of that season. At the time, it seemed horrible. I remember that home match against Sunderland as a particularly horrid experience.
yet at the same time, we broke our transfer record, and ended in a position we'd collectively give our right arms for these days.
I think what it comes down to is "you think this is bad now, but you'll really understand 'bad' in a few years time".
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1) It's over.
2) The nose next door moved a few months ago.
3) I was right by the pathetic fighting, and wasn't caught up in it.
4) The children sat in front of me who were scared witless by said fighting came to no harm.
5) The idiot behind me offering people out for sitting down was finally ejected in the second half.
6) My journey home was straightforward and the takeaway was still open when I got back to town
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We didn't have a victory parade in this morning's rain.
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We remain classy, whilst others remain classless.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/9871104/arsenal-midfielder-jack-wilshere-sings-abusive-song-about-rivals-tottenham
The bloke is a complete tosspot
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We stopped the Gerrrarrrd Media frenzy.
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Managed to get a seat on the tube on the way home...
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Nzogbia. Will be told to get his flash coat .
Weiman can sign for bolton
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A pale blue roller with the reg AV1 (which I presume was Herbert's) flashed past us on the M40 so quick I thought he was going to start travelling back in time. He dont fuck about with speed limits dont old Deadly!
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We stopped the Gerrrarrrd Media frenzy.
The nation owes us for that.
As a body of people we should be given the George Cross as recognition. Like Malta got.
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Had some great chats with loads of Villa and Arsenal fans. Lots of laughs and the vast majority of Villa fans were dignified in defeat.
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Nzogbia. Will be told to get his flash coat .
Weiman can sign for bolton
He's aiming too high.
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Aside from that the final signalled the end of Season 5 in a row of mainly horrible football.
I've been thinking about that a bit recently. Is it four seasons of horrible guff or five?
At the time, the Houllier season was pretty horrible, but it was a lot better for a bit at the end, and we actually finished ninth.
I genuinely can't make my mind up what I think of that season. At the time, it seemed horrible. I remember that home match against Sunderland as a particularly horrid experience.
yet at the same time, we broke our transfer record, and ended in a position we'd collectively give our right arms for these days.
I think what it comes down to is "you think this is bad now, but you'll really understand 'bad' in a few years time".
I think it's five because since MON fucked off it's been a train wreck for the most part. There have been intermissions of hope and frankly some great goals and football, but we have always found a way to revert back to the dross. Yes, if someone could have warned us in Houllier's season that it was going to get much, much worse I'd have built a bunker, stocked it full of canned food and toilet paper. Coming out only when my ham radio tuned to Radio 4 let me know it was 2017 or something.
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Nzogbia. Will be told to get his flash coat .
Weiman can sign for bolton
He's aiming too high.
Cov has no money
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Nzogbia. Will be told to get his flash coat .
Weiman can sign for bolton
He's aiming too high.
Cov has no money
Still too high.
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Aside from that the final signalled the end of Season 5 in a row of mainly horrible football.
I've been thinking about that a bit recently. Is it four seasons of horrible guff or five?
At the time, the Houllier season was pretty horrible, but it was a lot better for a bit at the end, and we actually finished ninth.
I genuinely can't make my mind up what I think of that season. At the time, it seemed horrible. I remember that home match against Sunderland as a particularly horrid experience.
yet at the same time, we broke our transfer record, and ended in a position we'd collectively give our right arms for these days.
I think what it comes down to is "you think this is bad now, but you'll really understand 'bad' in a few years time".
I think it's five because since MON fucked off it's been a train wreck for the most part. There have been intermissions of hope and frankly some great goals and football, but we have always found a way to revert back to the dross. Yes, if someone could have warned us in Houllier's season that it was going to get much, much worse I'd have built a bunker, stocked it full of canned food and toilet paper. Coming out only when my ham radio tuned to Radio 4 let me know it was 2017 or something.
Think how bad Wolves at home was in about March of that year. I didn't see us staying up after that given our last two games were Arsenal and Liverpool. It's 5 years...no doubt.
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Nzogbia. Will be told to get his flash coat .
Weiman can sign for bolton
He's aiming too high.
Cov has no money
Still too high.
Weiman doesn't post anything on Twitter these days, even about the Villa. It used to be 'flamey' this, 'flamey' that at one time.
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I couldn't get a ticket.
Same again.
This. I'm absolutely delighted I didn't part with hundreds of pounds to watch that insulting shite. Commiserations to those who did.
And yes, it's been 5 years of shit and many more years of cruel disappointment.
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We remain classy, whilst others remain classless.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/9871104/arsenal-midfielder-jack-wilshere-sings-abusive-song-about-rivals-tottenham
And if other reports about Leicester are true - our young players are not going to be caught in a sex tape scandal.
If they went to a brothel they'd have no idea how to score anyway.
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My lad was on the BBC news playing football outside Wembley in his villa shirt against some arsenal fans. His current claim to fame is that he has now scored at Wembley on cup final day.
It was a better match than the cup final.
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We do not have the curse of the Europa League to contend with; thank god for small mercies.
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The queues for beer at The Green Man weren't too bad.
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I've just gone to check and realised that the game hasn't recorded on my virgin box because I didn't have enough space for recordings. Result.
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We stopped the Gerrrarrrd Media frenzy.
The nation owes us for that.
As a body of people we should be given the George Cross as recognition. Like Malta got.
I did think it was quite funny when after the game The Anfield Wrap retweeted the photo of the Villa fans sat having a Gerrard birthday party on the way to Wembley asking how the party was going.
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Nzogbia. Will be told to get his flash coat .
Weiman can sign for bolton
He's aiming too high.
Don't worry, he'll miss anyway.
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My lad was on the BBC news playing football outside Wembley in his villa shirt against some arsenal fans. His current claim to fame is that he has now scored at Wembley on cup final day.
It was a better match than the cup final.
Which was more than our lot have done since 1957
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The tears of pride rolling down my cheeks singing 'Abide with me'.
I hope I don't have to wait another 15 years to sing it again.
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I'm positive we won't win the FA Cup in my lifetime.
I've asked my brother to instruct my 3 year old niece to arrange for her elderly great grandchildren to take my ashes to the open top bus parade when we finally do it.
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Something I found bizarre was that on the day my team were in the FA Cup Final my girlfriend (no interest in football, she's from Wigan) knew somebody on the pitch. A friend of hers was the Villa fan in the choir singing 'Abide With Me' and he was featured in the programme, to be fair to her she watched it all but just to gauge what mood her boys would be in.
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Work tomorrow in a Tipton office full of Albion, Wolves & eggchasers. It's only just begun.
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Like many I have thought for a long time that I will never see Villa win the FA Cup. However I got to thinking yesterday. I know it's a grisly thought and I'm clutching at straws but I was born in January 1958 two weeks overdue. That means that when we won the cup in May 1957, my Mom was about 1 month pregnant with me. I am now content that we have won the cup in my "lifetime".
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Like many I have thought for a long time that I will never see Villa win the FA Cup. However I got to thinking yesterday. I know it's a grisly thought and I'm clutching at straws but I was born in January 1958 two weeks overdue. That means that when we won the cup in May 1957, my Mom was about 1 month pregnant with me. I am now content that we have won the cup in my "lifetime".
I have a similar birth thing going on, but in a bad sense.
The day after I was born, in 1968, Albion won the FA Cup.
Which means that they have won the FA Cup in my lifetime, but Villa haven't.
I'm going to be *so* relieved when we win it next year.
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Like many I have thought for a long time that I will never see Villa win the FA Cup. However I got to thinking yesterday. I know it's a grisly thought and I'm clutching at straws but I was born in January 1958 two weeks overdue. That means that when we won the cup in May 1957, my Mom was about 1 month pregnant with me. I am now content that we have won the cup in my "lifetime".
I have a similar birth thing going on, but in a bad sense.
The day after I was born, in 1968, Albion won the FA Cup.
Which means that they have won the FA Cup in my lifetime, but Villa haven't.
I'm going to be *so* relieved when we win it next year.
Ha Ha I didn't realise how lucky I am!
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I had an amazing day (with a very poor 90 mins inbetween) drinking in London with my old man who is 68 next month. As he very matter of fact stated it might be the last cup final he will go to, my response was there is always next year!
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Randy was there to witness what a load of shit he's forced upon us and what loyal fans we are
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I got home just after 9pm thanks to me leaving with 10 minutes to spare!
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Randy was there to witness what a load of shit he's forced upon us and what loyal fans we are
That would only be a positive if there was some evidence that he will give a flying one about that.
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I couldn't get through Abide With Me. We had it at my granddad's funeral, and i always promised him we'd go to a Cup Final together. The fact there was an empty seat next to me - completely randomly in a sellout game - made me feel like maybe he made it after all.
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It can't get any worse now, can it...? Potential new ownership, a proactive manger, I'm as confident as a villa fan can be that this season is as bad as it is going to get. I think...
A genuine positive was a great day out with my old man and brothers, we usually just meet in the ground for home games and don't do much away, so to sit in the sunshine for a few hours, talk villa and have a few beers was worth the shit game.
Oh, and I'll hopefully never again have to sit next to the mouthy, pissed up angry wankers calling themselves fans that added an extra hint of shite to an already dreadful match. To think language and threats like they were spouting around kids was pathetic.
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530pm really is a horrid time to start a football match, I'd prefer a night final to 530 if we can't have 3pm.
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Squad shown up for what it is - poor.
No papering over cracks, this is a massive rebuild if we want to get into the top half of the table and stay there. I would not be surprised to see Sherwood walking out if he is not given serious money and the remit to overhaul the squad.
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I got home early. Saved the expense of booking fees by going into London to buy some theatre tickets (whilst deliberately ignoring transport costs, but geez do booking/admin fees make me mad).
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Squad shown up for what it is - poor.
No papering over cracks, this is a massive rebuild if we want to get into the top half of the table and stay there. I would not be surprised to see Sherwood walking out if he is not given serious money and the remit to overhaul the squad.
If the club gets taken over he maybe looking for a new job anyway
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I concur, if sherwood is dicked about in the next few weeks he will walk out, and he'd be right to.
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I concur, if sherwood is dicked about in the next few weeks he will walk out, and he'd be right to.
Is there any indication that he is going to be 'dicked about'
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I concur, if sherwood is dicked about in the next few weeks he will walk out, and he'd be right to.
Is there any indication that he is going to be 'dicked about'
Based on last summer, yes.
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Squad shown up for what it is - poor.
No papering over cracks, this is a massive rebuild if we want to get into the top half of the table and stay there. I would not be surprised to see Sherwood walking out if he is not given serious money and the remit to overhaul the squad.
I would hope he negotiated some idea of the budget he's got when he took the job. Plus (probably) £32.5 million minimum for Benteke.
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I concur, if sherwood is dicked about in the next few weeks he will walk out, and he'd be right to.
Is there any indication that he is going to be 'dicked about'
Based on last summer, yes.
What happened last summer?
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I concur, if sherwood is dicked about in the next few weeks he will walk out, and he'd be right to.
Is there any indication that he is going to be 'dicked about'
No. He came here and I assume he discussed next season before taking the job. I do not take him as a manager that would take a job for the sake of it.
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I concur, if sherwood is dicked about in the next few weeks he will walk out, and he'd be right to.
Is there any indication that he is going to be 'dicked about'
Based on last summer, yes.
What happened last summer?
I know what you did last summer :D
Budget £7m
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I concur, if sherwood is dicked about in the next few weeks he will walk out, and he'd be right to.
Is there any indication that he is going to be 'dicked about'
No. He came here and I assume he discussed next season before taking the job. I do not take him as a manager that would take a job for the sake of it.
People just try and create hypothetical situations for some reason just for the sake of it. There's no reason at all to think that he will walk away.
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I concur, if sherwood is dicked about in the next few weeks he will walk out, and he'd be right to.
Is there any indication that he is going to be 'dicked about'
Based on last summer, yes.
What happened last summer?
I know what you did last summer :D
Budget £7m
Would he have taken the job if he knew he had next to nothing to spend?
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Possibly ? Who knows.
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the only positive when I got home the beer was half price
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I spent much of the day with some lovely people from here.
So to Risso and his beautiful, incredibly well-mannered kids, DW, Amfy, Coops, cheltenhamlion, lsvilla and his lovely wife - thanks for the good company.
No Europa League.
Hopefully, lessons learned by people with the power to change things.
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Main positive was meeting sammy Morgan before the game who was a lovely bloke.
Also pleased that sherwood has to now realise the scale of the task he faces. No papering over cracks
Loved the passion of the Villa supporters
Feel guilty I was unable to say a word to Dave Woodhall after game as too upset. He rightly said we were "abysmal"
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I couldn't get through Abide With Me. We had it at my granddad's funeral, and i always promised him we'd go to a Cup Final together. The fact there was an empty seat next to me - completely randomly in a sellout game - made me feel like maybe he made it after all.
That sounds absolutely incredible and a moment you will remember for a long time afterwards. I'm just sorry for you and all of us that it was not the result you would have wanted.
I found out today that my Grandad ( long gone) went to the 57 cup Final. He carried on supporting for the next 30 - odd years, always hoping for a replay!
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Main positive was meeting sammy Morgan before the game who was a lovely bloke.
6'2", eyes of blue, Sammy Morgan is after you. Now those were two FA Cup ties against Arsenal. I bet Bob Wilson had nightmares for years after.
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I take comfort from the fact that more Villa fans were at the quarters and the semi, and hope that the kids especially remember those days long after they've forgotten about yesterday.
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I concur, if sherwood is dicked about in the next few weeks he will walk out, and he'd be right to.
Is there any indication that he is going to be 'dicked about'
No. He came here and I assume he discussed next season before taking the job. I do not take him as a manager that would take a job for the sake of it.
People just try and create hypothetical situations for some reason just for the sake of it. There's no reason at all to think that he will walk away.
I meant it as a positive in that he will have money to spend. Considering it meant so much to stay in the PL because of the TV money, there is very little talk about this now. I now everybody is down but talk of minimal money plus anything for Benteke is negative in the extreme.
Regarding your 'hypothetical situations', aren't most comments on this site based on 'what if'.
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I take comfort from the fact that more Villa fans were at the quarters and the semi, and hope that the kids especially remember those days long after they've forgotten about yesterday.
The ground seemed pretty much 50/50 to me.
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I take comfort from the fact that more Villa fans were at the quarters and the semi, and hope that the kids especially remember those days long after they've forgotten about yesterday.
The ground seemed pretty much 50/50 to me.
I think he means total of Villa fans at quarter plus semi final > number of villa fans at the debacle yesterday.
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It's a good point too, btw.
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I spent much of the day with some lovely people from here.
So to Risso and his beautiful, incredibly well-mannered kids, DW, Amfy, Coops, cheltenhamlion, lsvilla and his lovely wife - thanks for the good company.
No Europa League.
Hopefully, lessons learned by people with the power to change things.
I wouldn't count on it Perce. This is the same lot who not only didn't sack lambert at the end of last seasons debacle but went the whole hog and gave him a four year deal after four games this season.
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Positives - I don't live in wembley, Northolt or Greenford.
Harrow on the Hill is quite nice though.
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Back to positives. We aren't talking to Sam Allardyce this summer.
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Back to positives. We aren't talking to Sam Allardyce this summer.
If Tim gets the push from the new owners you may get your wish?
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Back to positives. We aren't talking to Sam Allardyce this summer.
If Tim gets the push from the new owners you may get your wish?
There's going to be no new owners anytime soon.
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I got to go to an FA Cup final with my Dad, and several other awesome people. I got to sing abide with me for my Uncle who sadly passed away two weeks ago after a cancer battle. He just couldn't fight long enough to see the final. He had a season ticket and he let me use his reference for my ticket. I was tearful as I sung it for him, and looked to the skies as I thanked him for giving me the moment.
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I got to go to an FA Cup final with my Dad, and several other awesome people. I got to sing abide with me for my Uncle who sadly passed away two weeks ago after a cancer battle. He just couldn't fight long enough to see the final. He had a season ticket and he let me use his reference for my ticket. I was tearful as I sung it for him, and looked to the skies as I thanked him for giving me the moment.
That's nice mate.
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Back to positives. We aren't talking to Sam Allardyce this summer.
I honestly think relegation would be preferable to seeing Big Sam style football or Pulis at Villa Park. And yes I say this realizing how utterly terrible to watch we have been the past three games, but I don't care, at least Sherwood doesn't TRY to make the football awful like that pair.
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Possibly ? Who knows.
So he might well have taken the job knowing he had nothing to spend and would then be within his rights to walk out in a few weeks when he has nothing to spend?
Right-o.
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Possibly ? Who knows.
So he might well have taken the job knowing he had nothing to spend and would then be within his rights to walk out in a few weeks when he has nothing to spend?
Right-o.
I imagine his Brief was to avoid relegation , then re-group and talk.
Talks will happen this week. Let's see what happens next.
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We didn't see the banner at Wembley
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We didn't see the banner at Wembley
Although I did see a sticker with that design on a lamppost on Wembley way.
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Great session in the pub before the game with some good mates, spoilt by the performance. Same as just about every other London game under Lambert in the last few years, but this one cost three times as much. No positives for me.
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We didn't see the banner at Wembley
Although I did see a sticker with that design on a lamppost on Wembley way.
I saw a few t-shirts too
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We didn't see the banner at Wembley
Tied to the gates at the Blues ground so I believe.
Their idiotic behaviour know no bounds obviously.
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We didn't see the banner at Wembley
What banner?
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I think one of the positives is that despite some pretty rotten goings on (fights, ticket scams etc) most of the folk on here and amongst the rest of the Villa fans are pretty good folk. Just wasn't to be this time unfortunately.
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Like many I have thought for a long time that I will never see Villa win the FA Cup. However I got to thinking yesterday. I know it's a grisly thought and I'm clutching at straws but I was born in January 1958 two weeks overdue. That means that when we won the cup in May 1957, my Mom was about 1 month pregnant with me. I am now content that we have won the cup in my "lifetime".
I have a similar birth thing going on, but in a bad sense.
The day after I was born, in 1968, Albion won the FA Cup.
Which means that they have won the FA Cup in my lifetime, but Villa haven't.
I'm going to be *so* relieved when we win it next year.
Ive seen them win the European cup but not the fa cup, how can this happen.
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Another positive is that the good folk on H and V and all the brilliant people involved will still be here when time has healed the wounds from all this
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Like many I have thought for a long time that I will never see Villa win the FA Cup. However I got to thinking yesterday. I know it's a grisly thought and I'm clutching at straws but I was born in January 1958 two weeks overdue. That means that when we won the cup in May 1957, my Mom was about 1 month pregnant with me. I am now content that we have won the cup in my "lifetime".
I have a similar birth thing going on, but in a bad sense.
The day after I was born, in 1968, Albion won the FA Cup.
Which means that they have won the FA Cup in my lifetime, but Villa haven't.
I'm going to be *so* relieved when we win it next year.
Ive seen them win the European cup but not the fa cup, how can this happen.
God (the deity, not THE "God") obviously hates us.
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Another positive is that the good folk on H and V and all the brilliant people involved will still be here when time has healed the wounds from all this
Agreed. This site is the best thing on the Internet without a shadow of a doubt.
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Positive. Hmmm, got to spend time with my brother.
Had a good meal, good beers too.
That's about it.
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I tried the mushroom burger at Wembley. Very tasty.
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I tried the mushroom burger at Wembley. Very tasty.
Very off topic but that makes me feel slightly ill! I loved mushrooms until I had a mushroom risotto and had severe food poisoning
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I suppose not qualifying for the Europa League is a positive
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It will be more enjoyable winning it next season than it would have been retaining it.
About a million times more judging by the low key Arsenal fans leaving the ground.
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Not sure if this has already been mentioned: I'm sure that Stevie G would have preferred to see the Villa beat the Arsenal, as then he would have at least had the consolation of having his birthday ruined by the cup winners, so we have helped to make his birthday even more miserable for him!
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It will be more enjoyable winning it next season than it would have been retaining it.
About a million times more judging by the low key Arsenal fans leaving the ground.
True. I left a couple of minutes before the end (missing the Giroud goal) and there were Arsenal fans on the same train as the Villa heading away from the ground! Just imagine if Villa had won it! We'd have probably all still have been there an hour after the trophy had been presented!
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I'd still be there now!
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It will be more enjoyable winning it next season than it would have been retaining it.
About a million times more judging by the low key Arsenal fans leaving the ground.
True. I left a couple of minutes before the end (missing the Giroud goal) and there were Arsenal fans on the same train as the Villa heading away from the ground! Just imagine if Villa had won it! We'd have probably all still have been there an hour after the trophy had been presented!
There were dozens of them streaming out of the ground at the same time as me - about 10 mins before the end, with the score at 3-0. I actually asked 2 of them why they weren't staying until the end and one of them said to me "well, when you've seen them do it 6 times...." I tell you what, if there hadn't been 2 of them and if they hadn't looked as handy as they did then I'd have lamped the pair of them.... In the end I just said something about them going to all the trouble to get a ticket only to walk out 10 minutes before their moment of glory. Then I said something childish about them never winning the European Cup. Then I jumped on the tube back to the pub and drank myself into angry oblivion.
Still feeling a tad delicate this morning
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It will be more enjoyable winning it next season than it would have been retaining it.
About a million times more judging by the low key Arsenal fans leaving the ground.
True. I left a couple of minutes before the end (missing the Giroud goal) and there were Arsenal fans on the same train as the Villa heading away from the ground! Just imagine if Villa had won it! We'd have probably all still have been there an hour after the trophy had been presented!
I stayed to clap the Villa players as they got their medals and just caught them lifting the cup so the ones I was surrounded by on the walk to the coaches (it seemed we were surrounded by all Arsenal fans at that point) must have left the second after it was lifted and not waited for any lap of honour. There was no singing or sense of excitement from them. It was like leaving a cinema at the end of a film.
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It will be more enjoyable winning it next season than it would have been retaining it.
About a million times more judging by the low key Arsenal fans leaving the ground.
True. I left a couple of minutes before the end (missing the Giroud goal) and there were Arsenal fans on the same train as the Villa heading away from the ground! Just imagine if Villa had won it! We'd have probably all still have been there an hour after the trophy had been presented!
That was their sixth final & theyve won it 5 times since we last got to the final..
I dare say if we had that sort of record wed be a little arrogant/blazé about it.
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Don't understand all these comments about not wanting to qualify for the Europa League.
Yes, it's a lot of games; yes, there's some evidence to suggest it can negatively impact on Premier League performance - I understand those bits.
But for me the positives easily outweigh the negatives. Villa in Europe and you get to play big names like Ajax, Hamburger SV etc. etc. I love European away trips.
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So what's your positive then?
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So what's your positive then?
Just getting to the final is positive in itself.
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Don't understand all these comments about not wanting to qualify for the Europa League.
Yes, it's a lot of games; yes, there's some evidence to suggest it can negatively impact on Premier League performance - I understand those bits.
But for me the positives easily outweigh the negatives. Villa in Europe and you get to play big names like Ajax, Hamburger SV etc. etc. I love European away trips.
Agree. Love the European games. Even if it's against somebody you've never heard of, it's still much more interesting than playing the likes of Stoke and Leicester or losing to Man U.
Not that I think the cup runners-up deserve a European place, but I remember thinking a few months ago... "It'd be typical if we lose a cup final this year, the year they stop letting runners-up into Europe".
Oh, and as for a positive... ermm... I'd rather have lost to Arsenal than, say, Chelsea. That's about it.
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Don't understand all these comments about not wanting to qualify for the Europa League.
Yes, it's a lot of games; yes, there's some evidence to suggest it can negatively impact on Premier League performance - I understand those bits.
But for me the positives easily outweigh the negatives. Villa in Europe and you get to play big names like Ajax, Hamburger SV etc. etc. I love European away trips.
Sevilla fans must be gutted winning twice in a row and now going into the champs league from it .....
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I can honestly say I had one of my best days out in years only spoilt by an hour and half's compulsory break in the middle. Talking to loads of random people who were all great, some nice selfies with girls I would never ever have a chance with in a million years but it felt good for a second (sadness knows no bounds with me). Pub atmosphere fabulous, bar staff competent, wearing Villa colours, all very positive.
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But for me the positives easily outweigh the negatives. Villa in Europe and you get to play big names like Ajax, Hamburger SV etc. etc. I love European away trips.
Sevilla fans must be gutted winning twice in a row and now going into the champs league from it .....
Indeed. In general, the Spanish and Portuguese clubs have a far better attitude to this competition. Doesn't seem to have negatively impacted Sevilla's league form either as far as I can tell.
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If we all accept that we are not going to get into the top 4 any time soon, then we absolutely should be going all out to get into the Europa. I'm not a fan of the tournament per se and the Thursday/Sunday nonsense. But with the right approach and squad building achieving consistent Europa league qualification should be the aim. And once you get past the groups it is a regular knockout tournament with the added CL bonus. I love European football at VP.
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I don't think we are ready for Europe yet, we need to stabilise our domestic position on many levels before we want the added pressures of a European campaign.
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If it was purely a knock out tournament then fine. But It isn't. We can barely keep a starting 11 fit for the first team as it is without the possibility of another potential 20 games on top of that. We're just not ready for it in the current set up. Get the domestic bit sorted then look to push on.
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I don't think we are ready for Europe yet, we need to stabilise our domestic position on many levels before we want the added pressures of a European campaign.
That's a reasonable argument. But it doesn't rule out the possibility of Europe (probably the Europa League if we're honest) in time.
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If it was purely a knock out tournament then fine. But It isn't. We can barely keep a starting 11 fit for the first team as it is without the possibility of another potential 20 games on top of that. We're just not ready for it in the current set up. Get the domestic bit sorted then look to push on.
well we're not in next season so the question becomes would we be ready for it in 2016/2017 or more realistically 2017/2018?
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To add to the one I posted yesterday, reasons to be cheerful part 2;
1) By happy chance of birth I did not have to grit my teeth and present the Cup and winners medals to those friggin' barstewards. Then restrain myself from punching their smug git Frog manager in the face and knocking his teeth down his throat!
2) This one for either the very old, or the historians amongst us.
Ted Drake did not play for Them on Saturday
If you don't know what I am on about look it up in your Villa books, or google.
For my son(s) who may read this my mom, your gran, was at VP to see it happen. Never forgot, never stopped hating the Arsenal from that day forward; but not quite so much as she hated the stripey filth!
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The game itself needs no further discussion, the build-up and the atmosphere before kick off was magical, pub right by wembley way £3.65 a pint, full of Villa, fantastic banter, no tension, what a day - would i do it all again? please Oh dear Lord, please.
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If it was purely a knock out tournament then fine. But It isn't. We can barely keep a starting 11 fit for the first team as it is without the possibility of another potential 20 games on top of that. We're just not ready for it in the current set up. Get the domestic bit sorted then look to push on.
well we're not in next season so the question becomes would we be ready for it in 2016/2017 or more realistically 2017/2018?
if we did it by route of league placing then you'd start to think we might have a squad capable of giving it a go.
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Spilling beer down a person's front at the bar in the Green Man and us both just laughing about it.
Also , talking to another chap at the said bar and him taking a photo out of his pocket of his recently deceased brother.How he would have been there, and us both wishing the Villa would come through for him.
Emosh.
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if we did it by route of league placing then you'd start to think we might have a squad capable of giving it a go.
Yep, agree.
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If it was purely a knock out tournament then fine. But It isn't. We can barely keep a starting 11 fit for the first team as it is without the possibility of another potential 20 games on top of that. We're just not ready for it in the current set up. Get the domestic bit sorted then look to push on.
well we're not in next season so the question becomes would we be ready for it in 2016/2017 or more realistically 2017/2018?
if we did it by route of league placing then you'd start to think we might have a squad capable of giving it a go.
yep exactly, so it will take Sherwood or whoever is manager at least a 3 to 4 windows to build the side and bring through players. We have enough on our plate to be worrying about Europe but it would be great to at least get into it by the end of next season. A tall order I grant you. Even if we are somewhat unprepared (squad size/depth-wise) it's great exposure and experience, and also makes the club more attractive to new players.
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If it was purely a knock out tournament then fine. But It isn't. We can barely keep a starting 11 fit for the first team as it is without the possibility of another potential 20 games on top of that. We're just not ready for it in the current set up. Get the domestic bit sorted then look to push on.
well we're not in next season so the question becomes would we be ready for it in 2016/2017 or more realistically 2017/2018?
Realistically 2017/18 I'd say .
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Friday night was brilliant.
Saturday afternoon was brilliant.
Something happened Saturday evening but I've wiped it from memory.
Saturday night was brilliant.
Basically all that was brilliant had something to do with people from this site, damn you Villa for trying to spoil my weekend (again)!
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If it was purely a knock out tournament then fine. But It isn't. We can barely keep a starting 11 fit for the first team as it is without the possibility of another potential 20 games on top of that. We're just not ready for it in the current set up. Get the domestic bit sorted then look to push on.
well we're not in next season so the question becomes would we be ready for it in 2016/2017 or more realistically 2017/2018?
Realistically 2017/18 I'd say .
2037/38 would be more realistic
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I take comfort from the fact that more Villa fans were at the quarters and the semi, and hope that the kids especially remember those days long after they've forgotten about yesterday.
The ground seemed pretty much 50/50 to me.
I think he means total of Villa fans at quarter plus semi final > number of villa fans at the debacle yesterday.
Yes, I was thinking along the lines of us having about 32k in VP versus West Brom, about the same ticket allocation for the semi, but only 25,800 allocated for the Final.
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Positives.
Stayed in Harrow - really nice place, 4 stops on the tube, ended up dancing with our flags on Saturday night until we were "bouncered out" about 1am.
Spent only £7 on 8 cans of beer before the match to drink on the green.
Went down with no ticket, and picked one up outside for £200, glad I didn't have to deal with the dodgy touts.
Will know what to repeat next year ad infinitum until we do win.
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I had an extra 40 minutes to get ready to go out as I turned it off.
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VCTM jnr and me had a great time - down on Friday afternoon - few beers in our hotel room in Hayes followed by the usual excellent curry at the Grapes Tandoori - Uxbridge Road Hayes - I can really recommend it.
Saturday morning - early getting to the Clay Oven - met some really nice people:
The three guys from Sweden - Paul, Patrick, Peter -I kid you not !!! - I hope you all got tickets)
The family from Bedford (i.e. the bubbly Canadian lady).
Lee who had flown over from Perth Western Australia just for the game.
The messages of goodwill from Evertonians, Geordies, Liverpudlians,Mancs and even my old hairdresser from Brum who is a massive Blue nose.
The guys who took photos of us as were were making a pigs ear of a selfie in front of the stadium.
The two Arsenal fans who had swapped tickets (at the Villa end) for tickets at the Arsenal end - and were scammed by touts- two really nice guys and I felt sick for them.
The fantastic atmosphere and support for the Villa
Abide with me - like many that means a lot to me - tears for those no longer with us
Saturday I was proud to be a Brummie and a Villa fan
The only thing that tarnished the day was the team not bothering to turn up - we were as bad as much as Arsenal were good.
There is a reason we finished 17th - plus the 12-0 aggregate says it all really.
Today I have had lots of sympathy and no stick - most are sympathetic cause they knew how much winning meant to me - I was born in 57 (July) and like others of my vintage have witnessed some great cup wins - but this is the one missing.
I think if we do win it before I depart this earth I will go absolutely ape - the win against Liverpool was magnificent, especially as I live up there .
Hopefully Saturday was the end of a bad season - we have to look forward and hope things get better - cause when they do we will be loud and proud, just as we were at 5pm last Saturday.
The sight and sound of all those Villa flags, scarves and songs was awesome.
PS - not renewing just yet !!!!!
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even my old hairdresser from Brum who is a massive Blue nose.
Carson Yeung?
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Watching it on MOTD I quite liked the fact that Prince William looked really pissed off handing the FA Cup over, then politely applauded, while Randy Lerner looked even more pissed off and didn't applaud at all. I really liked that, stood right behind the celebrating Arsenal players refusing to clap. I would have done the same. They are Villa supporters.
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One game closer to the end of Lerners reign.
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After the semi and the final I am now an expert at getting to and from wembley in painlessly fast speed. Let's do it again next year.
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From Twitter...
King @EditedPL 1h1 hour ago
Aston Villa was and always will be a big club! Amazing fans. #keepthefaith
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If you awarded FA Cups based on fans we would have won by a country mile.
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Taking my 17 year old son to an FA cup Final to see the Villa play (yes abject performance in the end), sampling the atmosphere, humour & camadarie of ever hopeful Villa fans.
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Meeting Nigel Sims on an M4
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Don't know what I did there, I'll start again !
Meeting Nigel Sims on an M4 motorway service station before the match. I was standing having a smoke and this little old lady, dressed as if she was going to a wedding and also having a cigarette, came up to me and asked if I was going to the match. "Yes" I replied to which she responded, "and I am, along with my husband, you might know him, he played in goal at the 1957 cup final". "Nigel f**king Sims" ? I shouted to her. "Yes that's him, he's on the toilet and will be out in a minute". "Can you ask him to wait while I go and get a camera". "No problem" she replied taking another long drag on her cigarette. I rushed to get my son (who had come over from Australia for the match but that's another story) and his camera. Nigel come striding out of the services, suited and booted looking magnificent. I took a few photographs and had a fantastic conversation with him the main point being the Villa had invited the last 3 remaining members of that team to watch the game from the Royal box, Peter McParland and Jackie Sewell but Jackie was to poorly to attend. I waved him off and at that moment I knew it was our year !! Little did I know.
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Don't know what I did there, I'll start again !
Meeting Nigel Sims on an M4 motorway service station before the match. I was standing having a smoke and this little old lady, dressed as if she was going to a wedding and also having a cigarette, came up to me and asked if I was going to the match. "Yes" I replied to which she responded, "and I am, along with my husband, you might know him, he played in goal at the 1957 cup final". "Nigel f**king Sims" ? I shouted to her. "Yes that's him, he's on the toilet and will be out in a minute". "Can you ask him to wait while I go and get a camera". "No problem" she replied taking another long drag on her cigarette. I rushed to get my son (who had come over from Australia for the match but that's another story) and his camera. Nigel come striding out of the services, suited and booted looking magnificent. I took a few photographs and had a fantastic conversation with him the main point being the Villa had invited the last 3 remaining members of that team to watch the game from the Royal box, Peter McParland and Jackie Sewell but Jackie was to poorly to attend. I waved him off and at that moment I knew it was our year !! Little did I know.
Lovely anecdote - I am chuffed for you.
My only positive is that if asked would I do it all again I say yes, because the victories over Albion and Liverpool are my best memories in years. The anticipation and camaraderie pre match were incredible. I hadn't been that excited or nervous in years.
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Any chance of sharing the pics?
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I'm not very IT savvy to say the least so I've asked my son to attach a photograph when he arrives back in Melbourne sometime today once he's recovered from the flight and cup final trauma.
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Doubled up through the turnstiles so one of mine could join the other two = massive two fingers to the greedy FA and their empty corporate sections.
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I take comfort from the fact that more Villa fans were at the quarters and the semi, and hope that the kids especially remember those days long after they've forgotten about yesterday.
The semi final day was one of my favourite days of being not only a Villa supporter but a parent. I had a fantastic day with my son and seeing him joining in with the songs and the smile on his face at the final whistle will live long in the memory.He said to me on the way home that days like that make it even more special being a Villa supporter because they don't happen very often, as he said it's easy to support Man United,Chelsea, Liverpool etc but you won't get as much enjoyment out of it as we had that day. He kept thanking me for taking him, it was an absolute pleasure!
On Saturday after the game he watched Villa get their medals and then turned the TV off and disappeared to his bedroom for the rest of the evening as he was so upset. Said to my partner that means he really gets what it's like to be a Villa supporter, I think he's so used to them struggling and under performing it's never had much of an effect on him, but this...
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Doubled up through the turnstiles so one of mine could join the other two = massive two fingers to the greedy FA and their empty corporate sections.
Well done that man. Didn't the stewards spot you?
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It will be more enjoyable winning it next season than it would have been retaining it.
About a million times more judging by the low key Arsenal fans leaving the ground.
True. I left a couple of minutes before the end (missing the Giroud goal) and there were Arsenal fans on the same train as the Villa heading away from the ground! Just imagine if Villa had won it! We'd have probably all still have been there an hour after the trophy had been presented!
I was the same...I was surprised at how many there were leaving...and when I got back to Baker St there were actually Arsenal fans there already. :o :o
UTV
The Doc
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It will be more enjoyable winning it next season than it would have been retaining it.
About a million times more judging by the low key Arsenal fans leaving the ground.
True. I left a couple of minutes before the end (missing the Giroud goal) and there were Arsenal fans on the same train as the Villa heading away from the ground! Just imagine if Villa had won it! We'd have probably all still have been there an hour after the trophy had been presented!
I was the same...I was surprised at how many there were leaving...and when I got back to Baker St there were actually Arsenal fans there already. :o :o
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The Doc
I'd still be there now!
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Doubled up through the turnstiles so one of mine could join the other two = massive two fingers to the greedy FA and their empty corporate sections.
Well done that man. Didn't the stewards spot you?
Unmanned turnstiles, patience, distraction tactics and a bit of long overdue good luck and they were in.
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I saved a fortune by being in such an almighty strop I couldn't face the pub after the match so went straight back to my hotel room.
I also got to give a Tarquin on the tube one of the most foul mouthed tirades you will ever hear.
He left on 75 minutes to get to his friends BBQ and didn't want to miss Britain's Got Talent. He is a season ticket holder as well.
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Oh yes, one positive was us handing over Dave Cooper's surprise ticket on the Friday night. He has had a rough trot recently and that moment where he realised how highly his mates thought of him, coupled with the emotion of what has been going on in his personal life, meant there were quite a few tears.
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Doubled up through the turnstiles so one of mine could join the other two = massive two fingers to the greedy FA and their empty corporate sections.
Well done that man. Didn't the stewards spot you?
Unmanned turnstiles, patience, distraction tactics and a bit of long overdue good luck and they were in.
Wow. I thought the days of sneaking in were long gone.
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I saved a fortune by being in such an almighty strop I couldn't face the pub after the match so went straight back to my hotel room.
I also got to give a Tarquin on the tube one of the most foul mouthed tirades you will ever hear.
He left on 75 minutes to get to his friends BBQ and didn't want to miss Britain's Got Talent. He is a season ticket holder as well.
Now be fair, only having to beat crap Northern teams like us can't be very satisfying for the poor lamb.
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Particularly when their manager is so bloody awful...
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Particularly when their manager is so bloody awful...
The more I think about it, the more sure I become that you really should have killed him.
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I saved a fortune by being in such an almighty strop I couldn't face the pub after the match so went straight back to my hotel room.
We had a brilliant time on Saturday night! No idea why!
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Oh yes, one positive was us handing over Dave Cooper's surprise ticket on the Friday night. He has had a rough trot recently and that moment where he realised how highly his mates thought of him, coupled with the emotion of what has been going on in his personal life, meant there were quite a few tears.
Carcking story, well done to you all.
He's obviously a bad omen so don't do it again.
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I saved a fortune by being in such an almighty strop I couldn't face the pub after the match so went straight back to my hotel room.
I also got to give a Tarquin on the tube one of the most foul mouthed tirades you will ever hear.
He left on 75 minutes to get to his friends BBQ and didn't want to miss Britain's Got Talent. He is a season ticket holder as well.
Ha, thats marvellous. One of ours went straight to bed as well, we had a good night.
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Blimey, can a kindly mod tidy that up for me.
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My mood where I wanted to kill the world would have done nothing for anyone Saturday. It was best I missed it and let you lot enjoy drowning your sorrows, Amfy.
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Any chance of sharing the pics?
Here it is - I can't seem to post the link on this site, but if you copy and paste the below into a browser it should open up the photo:
tinypic.com/r/24cgu9i/8
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Fix0red...
Any chance of sharing the pics?
Here it is - I can't seem to post the link on this site, but if you copy and paste the below into a browser it should open up the photo:
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As someone else posted, going to an FA Cup Final with my 16 yer old son was a real highlight. We had a great day leading up to the game and spoke to numerous Villa fans old and young, sharing wonderful stories about our great club.
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Excellent. A proper hero!
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Oh yes, one positive was us handing over Dave Cooper's surprise ticket on the Friday night. He has had a rough trot recently and that moment where he realised how highly his mates thought of him, coupled with the emotion of what has been going on in his personal life, meant there were quite a few tears.
Carcking story, well done to you all.
He's obviously a bad omen so don't do it again.
yes that's a great story, well done to Dave's mates...
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The Doc
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Excellent. A proper hero!
Great pic. Hello Tommy Smart, nice to see you!
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Oh yes, one positive was us handing over Dave Cooper's surprise ticket on the Friday night. He has had a rough trot recently and that moment where he realised how highly his mates thought of him, coupled with the emotion of what has been going on in his personal life, meant there were quite a few tears.
Carcking story, well done to you all.
He's obviously a bad omen so don't do it again.
Yes, make sure you stay away in 2030!
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Oh yes, one positive was us handing over Dave Cooper's surprise ticket on the Friday night. He has had a rough trot recently and that moment where he realised how highly his mates thought of him, coupled with the emotion of what has been going on in his personal life, meant there were quite a few tears.
Sudden sandstorm inside the pub, grit in my eye.
It was a fantastic moment.
To think I nearly cancelled my trip down to London a couple of days before because Amanda had a tooth infection, luckily we pumped her full of pain killers and wine and all was well.
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Meet some great mates I had not seen for ages, people came over from America, Greece, Cyprus, Spain , Oz and nearer to B6, me from Oman back at my desk working away and still gutted by the performance, but the company of good people was worth every penny of the considerable amount all spent.
Were Villa were used to it.
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Cheers Percy, no doubt I'll see you at the first home match next season assuming there is a paper version on sale.
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Cheers Percy, no doubt I'll see you at the first home match next season assuming there is a paper version on sale.
No.
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Straws are for clutching: in the past 21 years we have appeared at Wembley 8 times and won 4 times - 50% success! How does that compare with our notional equals Newcastle, Everton etc.?
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Does anyone know how much the club made for our appearance in the final ?
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Straws are for clutching: in the past 21 years we have appeared at Wembley 8 times and won 4 times - 50% success! How does that compare with our notional equals Newcastle, Everton etc.?
I think Newcastle are played 2 lost 2 and Everton are played 3, won 2 (one on pens) lost 1 but one of Everton's wins was the FA Cup Final so I'm still jealous.
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Oh yes, one positive was us handing over Dave Cooper's surprise ticket on the Friday night. He has had a rough trot recently and that moment where he realised how highly his mates thought of him, coupled with the emotion of what has been going on in his personal life, meant there were quite a few tears.
Sudden sandstorm inside the pub, grit in my eye.
It was a fantastic moment.
To think I nearly cancelled my trip down to London a couple of days before because Amanda had a tooth infection, luckily we pumped her full of pain killers and wine and all was well.
If your reaction can make 2 miserable old fuckers like me and Mike well up as well I think you can give yourself a pass.
Anyway, this Aloe Vera gel....
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Cheers Percy, no doubt I'll see you at the first home match next season assuming there is a paper version on sale.
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Looks like I bay gonna see ya then !
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3 generations of us going to a cup final, probably never repeated in our lifetime. Great company on the coach down from a poster off this site....Paul Callow I believe !?
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Does anyone know how much the club made for our appearance in the final ?
£900,000 in prize money
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What appearance?
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Does anyone know how much the club made for our appearance in the final ?
£900,000 in prize money
Less 200k for fine
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So £700k gross then and about £400k after tax. Pretty slim pickings .
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So £700k gross then and about £400k after tax. Pretty slim pickings .
Oh, I dunno, it's given us a transfer budget for the close season...
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Anyway, this Aloe Vera gel....
I've got your wife's phone number.
In retrospect those two sentences look very suspect!
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Through a friend I met a couple of fellas tonight who are iron ore traders in London. They have a colleague who is a Villa fan bit was going to miss the final because of his sister's wedding on Saturday.
One very wealthy colleague offered him the use of his private helicopter so he went to the wedding, made a speech and jumped in the helicopter to Wembley to watch us surrender, then got the helicopter back to Brum. Apparently it cost him £600 in petrol.
I'm glad it wasn't me.
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Anyway, this Aloe Vera gel....
I've got your wife's phone number.
In retrospect those two sentences look very suspect!
Ha, ha.
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Richardson did well and Given made a couple of really great saves and from our point of view that's about it.
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Seeing Grealish on the floor distraught. At least we know one of them feels the same.
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Oh yes, one positive was us handing over Dave Cooper's surprise ticket on the Friday night. He has had a rough trot recently and that moment where he realised how highly his mates thought of him, coupled with the emotion of what has been going on in his personal life, meant there were quite a few tears.
Carcking story, well done to you all.
He's obviously a bad omen so don't do it again.
Yes, make sure you stay away in 2030!
When 2030 comes around I will be old enough to forget the game as soon as it finishes, so if we lose I won't remember it.
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Positives from the cup final
I had my 1st ever jaeger bomb in the green Man
Then my 2nd and 3rd
Then 5 buckets of bud in the hilton 3rd floor bar with my son daughter and mates
End of
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No positives. Just a horrid performance and result. Worse than 2000.
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It was a dose of reality and I hope it has been recognised
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Six days on and I am still mortified by that abject performance. Gutless.
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It was fooking pathetic. That fly on the wall bbc3 doc really rammed it firmly home. On the day I was too numb to realise the scale of the shiteness.
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I have still watched absolutely feck all of the day on TV, so that's a positive.
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If only it was this time last week
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I have still watched absolutely feck all of the day on TV, so that's a positive.
Same here. I came home and deleted the lot. Haven't seen anything on the telly nor the radio or Internet. The only thing I've looked at is the post match thread on here, and that was painful enough.
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I got home from wembley and had to watch Motd just to make sure. The bbc3 thing was funny apart from the clips of the actual game.
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I haven't even gone on the post-match thread yet. I may watch some stuff over the next week or so to try and get it out my system as a hippie type cleansing.
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My advice would be watch it once and then you can have closure. But don't watch it again after that.
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I have still watched absolutely feck all of the day on TV, so that's a positive.
Same here. I came home and deleted the lot. Haven't seen anything on the telly nor the radio or Internet. The only thing I've looked at is the post match thread on here, and that was painful enough.
Same here.
And it's still hurting.
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I recorded BBC1 all day on Cup Final day. When I got home I watched none of it but the John Bishop show.
That's how bad things were.
(Although to be fair, the people on it were good. Fast-forwarded through Bishop's bits obvs).
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I recorded BBC1 all day on Cup Final day. When I got home I watched none of it but the John Bishop show.
That's how bad things were.
(Although to be fair, the people on it were good. Fast-forwarded through Bishop's bits obvs).
Less of that Perce, we'll have no bashing the Bishop here.
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I only saw the 2000 goal on TV a year or so ago, I really did spend that long avoiding seeing it. I don't want to be so pissed off for so long this time, so I may try with that BBC3 programme assuming it's on iplayer.
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I only saw the 2000 goal on TV a year or so ago, I really did spend that long avoiding seeing it. I don't want to be so pissed off for so long this time, so I may try with that BBC3 programme assuming it's on iplayer.
It's worth a watch. Beware though It does show a fair bit of the game interspersed with some comical moments of relief.