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Title: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: paulcomben on June 12, 2013, 06:14:06 PM
Right, that is the new kit seen and sorted. (I like both home and away, but a podgy middle-aged fella should always stick with his 1957 retro FA Cup shirt; downward stripes are slimming.)

Next up, apart from more exciting young players signing, is the announcement of next season's FAPL fixtures on June 19.

Wish list to include:

-Home fixtures with promoted teams on the first and last days of the season. No Wiganesque worrying, thanks.
-Anything on Boxing Day that cannot be moved to 5.30 at home for TV.
-Nothing that might lead to a 15-0 drubbing sequence.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 12, 2013, 06:15:16 PM
Cardiff away will be one of our first fixtures.
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Post by: eastie on June 12, 2013, 06:18:01 PM
Albion at home on the opening day and a 3-0 win.
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Post by: Nev on June 12, 2013, 06:23:06 PM
Spotters badge for:

Newton Heath opening up at home to a promoted team-
Chelsea's first game live-
Us at home to Newton Heath just before Xmas-
Us at home on Boxing Day-
"Grand Slam"  fixtures together for the convenience of TV-

etc etc
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 12, 2013, 06:27:56 PM
Us against Spurs or Stoke on Boxing Day and it will be the late game on TV.
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Post by: cheltenhamlion on June 12, 2013, 06:33:17 PM
Home start this year against a long standing outfit like Fulham.

We don't do Sky Four openers.

Therefore, the return of Jose on the first Saturday night will be it of course.
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Post by: villajk on June 12, 2013, 06:39:08 PM
Us against Spurs or Stoke on Boxing Day and it will be the late game on TV.

Nah, that could never happen......
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Post by: martin o`who?? on June 12, 2013, 06:39:10 PM
I`ve long had my suspicions about the fixture computer and FA cup draw, the bollox (for thats what it is) about these things evening themselves out over time.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14
Post by: Pete3206 on June 12, 2013, 06:39:47 PM
I'd love us to get Man U at home on the opening day. But of course, it'll be Crystal Palace away.

Changed my mind. I'd love Fulham away   

Hot, sunny day by the river :P
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Post by: Chipsticks on June 12, 2013, 06:39:56 PM
Would quite like Hull at home as the opener; they've got a few players I'd quite like to get a look at.
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Post by: villajk on June 12, 2013, 06:41:09 PM
Hull away.  That's not a wish just a feeling.
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Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on June 12, 2013, 06:43:32 PM
Cardiff away will be one of our first fixtures.

Away.

First game of the season at home to the Black Shirts.
Followed by Cardiff away.
Then Chelsea at home.

Can I have the Baggies on Boxing Day, please?

Last home game of the season we will relegate a team.
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Post by: Clampy on June 12, 2013, 06:44:20 PM
I'll say Palace away followed by Norwich at home.
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Post by: TopDeck113 on June 12, 2013, 06:57:46 PM
A newly promoted southern club away, followed by an established decent club at home,  established lower/mid-table club away and a Big 4 at home in the first televised match of the season.

I'm going: Palace away, Everton home, Newcastle away, Chelsea home.


Other televised games:

Manchester United home will be Saturday teatime late November/early December
Arsenal away will be lunchtime New Year's Day
Albion away will be 11.30 on Mother's Day
Champion's League qualification secured last day of the season home to already-relegated Hull.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14
Post by: N'ZMAV on June 12, 2013, 06:59:52 PM
Hull City (A)
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Post by: andyh on June 12, 2013, 07:01:01 PM
1st game - Stoke at home
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Post by: hipkiss92 on June 12, 2013, 07:01:37 PM
Norwich (h)
Fulham (a)
Crystal Palace (h)

would be a pretty perfect start for the season I think,

will probably end up as

Chelsea (h)
Cardiff (a)
West Brom (a)
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Post by: damon loves JT on June 12, 2013, 07:04:00 PM
Two shaky results in seven days and the first mention of relegation. Then a stunning win over somebody like Arsenal.
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Post by: cheltenhamlion on June 12, 2013, 07:05:36 PM
Alas, the Villa way.
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Post by: cdbearsfan on June 12, 2013, 07:11:46 PM
Whichever Manchester club has won the league always gets a home starter against cannon-fodder. This year it will be Man U vs Hull.

We will, inevitably, get a newly-promoted club in their first home game and, just as inevitably, lose.

We'll play all the top clubs at least once over December and January so they don't have the distraction of Europe and can concentrate on beating us.

We'll have an absolutely horrendous Christmas and New Year schedule, just to piss me off.

Newcastle away will be chosen live for television kicking-off at a time that makes it impossible to get there and back by public transport on the same day.

These are certainties.

As for speculation, I'll take a wild guess at Sunderland for our first home game, West Ham away and Liverpool at home for our last two games of the season, not sure in which order.
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Post by: eastie on June 12, 2013, 07:14:11 PM
Sometimes its best to get the top teams early before they find form.
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Post by: bertlambshank on June 12, 2013, 07:15:51 PM
White Hart fucking Lane first up.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on June 12, 2013, 07:21:38 PM
There will have to be at least half a dozen bogus sets of fixtures revealed and as many myths about how they're put together. The published set will be seen as proof the league are against us.
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Post by: Lambert and Payne on June 12, 2013, 07:35:22 PM
Something like Fulham home, I'm at V Festival and don't want to have to come back for Albion away or something!
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Post by: peter w on June 12, 2013, 08:10:48 PM
southamptonat home.

We will also play Chelsea in September.
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Post by: richtheholtender on June 12, 2013, 08:24:38 PM
3-1 win against United at home.
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Post by: olaftab on June 12, 2013, 09:11:09 PM
At home and Sunderland please to start the season!
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14
Post by: JUAN PABLO on June 12, 2013, 09:14:49 PM
First game  Palace away   


box day will be chelsea   or spurs
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14
Post by: London Villan on June 12, 2013, 09:24:44 PM
The boxing day game will be away and at a stupid kick off time!
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Post by: Des Little on June 12, 2013, 10:29:27 PM
Something vile like Citeh away I reckon
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Post by: timeoutbigbar on June 13, 2013, 01:34:19 AM
Liverpool away, Man United at home and Man City away.  Call me an optimist.
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Post by: andrew08 on June 13, 2013, 07:22:39 AM
Assuming that we are home first and away in midweek, Palace away will be the second away game and moved to a Monday.
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Post by: Nev on June 13, 2013, 07:39:22 AM
Fulham away first up would be ideal, had a great day out two years ago. Ok, 0-0, TSM's first game but away from the football the piss up was good.
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Post by: l_mckay on June 13, 2013, 08:10:56 AM
Norwich away
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Post by: LeeS on June 13, 2013, 11:17:07 AM
This is how it all works. Interesting read

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulfletcher/2009/06/secrets_of_the_fixture_compute.html


Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14
Post by: Clampy on June 13, 2013, 11:54:18 AM
Fulham away first up would be ideal, had a great day out two years ago. Ok, 0-0, TSM's first game but away from the football the piss up was good.

Fulham is always a good away day, if a little pricey.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 13, 2013, 12:55:22 PM
This is how it all works. Interesting read

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulfletcher/2009/06/secrets_of_the_fixture_compute.html




Indeed. This is the time of year when I remind everyone of how I was on that committee years ago. There is no more thankless task than the fixture compiler's.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14
Post by: eastie on June 13, 2013, 12:57:18 PM
This is how it all works. Interesting read

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulfletcher/2009/06/secrets_of_the_fixture_compute.html




Indeed. This is the time of year when I remind everyone of how I was on that committee years ago. There is no more thankless task than the fixture compiler's.

Was that in the days before computers dave?
I imagine its a lot easier to programme fixtures in the main nowadays - who has the final say regarding Boxing Day home games as i read they are chosen manually.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14
Post by: TheTimVilla on June 13, 2013, 01:15:43 PM
West Ham (a)
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 13, 2013, 01:48:51 PM
This is how it all works. Interesting read

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulfletcher/2009/06/secrets_of_the_fixture_compute.html




Indeed. This is the time of year when I remind everyone of how I was on that committee years ago. There is no more thankless task than the fixture compiler's.

Was that in the days before computers dave?
I imagine its a lot easier to programme fixtures in the main nowadays - who has the final say regarding Boxing Day home games as i read they are chosen manually.

Of course they used computers. They still do for all fixtures but there are so many factors it's incredible that they manage.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14
Post by: Ads on June 13, 2013, 01:59:40 PM
I guarantee that we will have Chelsea away either just before Christmas, Boxing Day or New Years Day. As a 1pm kick off too.

My least favourite away day of the year.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 13, 2013, 02:19:38 PM
I remember when I was in a subbutteo league as a kid (okay it was last week), and we only had 10 teams and it took us forever to work the home and away fixtures for everyone.
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Post by: darren woolley on June 13, 2013, 02:40:40 PM
I would like either Norwich or the Baggies at home or Fulham away for our first game.
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Post by: Damo70 on June 13, 2013, 02:49:56 PM
Nice winnable home games on the first day, boxing day and the last day so we can start and end on a high and also have a better Christmas than last year. None of the promoted clubs early doors until they have had their optimism and excitement knocked by a few beatings. Champions League clubs a few days before they play a CL match. I don't ask for much.

My ideal scenario - First game home to Norwich, boxing day home to Palace and last day home to Fulham.

What will happen - First game away to Chelsea, boxing day away to Palace and last day away to Manchester United.
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Post by: neo_Villan on June 13, 2013, 03:21:01 PM
I'd love Manure at home too. Smethwick home or away wouldn't be bad either. We should be beginning with a home game though after two seasons beginning away. Shouldn't we?
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14
Post by: Dave Clark Five on June 14, 2013, 12:15:05 AM
Fulham away first up would be ideal, had a great day out two years ago. Ok, 0-0, TSM's first game but away from the football the piss up was good.
I would like either Norwich or the Baggies at home or Fulham away for our first game.
Albion at home last game to send them down.
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Post by: cdbearsfan on June 14, 2013, 09:00:52 AM
You don't get local derbies first game, last game or Boxing Day.
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Post by: Dave Clark Five on June 14, 2013, 09:31:25 AM
You don't get local derbies first game, last game or Boxing Day.
Always used to get them on Boxing Day.
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Post by: nick harper on June 14, 2013, 09:34:46 AM
You don't get local derbies first game, last game or Boxing Day.
Always used to get them on Boxing Day.

We played Albion first game in the mid 80s. We won 4-3 - 6 goals before half time - blazing hot.
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Post by: Nev on June 14, 2013, 09:37:34 AM
You don't get local derbies first game, last game or Boxing Day.
Always used to get them on Boxing Day.

Thats because the real passion would overshadow that artificial hype created by Sky surrounding Man Utd V Crystal Palace and Chelsea V Stoke.
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Post by: Damo70 on June 14, 2013, 09:48:16 AM
You don't get local derbies first game, last game or Boxing Day.
Always used to get them on Boxing Day.

We played Albion first game in the mid 80s. We won 4-3 - 6 goals before half time - blazing hot.

Ken McNaught's debut about a week after he left us for them and his replacement Brendan Ormsby got the winning goal. One of my most memorable games as a kid. It was shown on ESPN classic a couple of years ago.The first game of the following season, at home to Coventry was shown around the same time.
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Post by: villa kicks on June 14, 2013, 10:43:05 AM
I  feel pretty positive, excited, intrigued with whats happening down that villa! I cant wait for the fixtures and what games where. I cant wait for the goal line technology !!  I wont be going to Hull, Cardiff (seems pretty dangerous to me) though Palace is the only possibility as I am near london based. safety is always a concern for me and i dont like going too far up north. Fulham Arsenal and Chelsea depending on when they are - are matches i make and i have to sit with my friends or cousins but am cheering on in my head.  The home games I pick and choose when schedules allow and if relatives buy me a ticket. I am proud of the club and the way we at Villa back a campaign for safe standing it shows our fans are of good sense and responsible. We have sold out and have sky and watch alot of coverage but am also intrigued by BT sport and will pester my 'rents to get this package!!
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 14, 2013, 10:46:44 AM
You don't get local derbies first game, last game or Boxing Day.
Always used to get them on Boxing Day.

We played Albion first game in the mid 80s. We won 4-3 - 6 goals before half time - blazing hot.

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Post by: kippaxvilla2 on June 14, 2013, 03:06:38 PM
Manure away all day long.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on June 14, 2013, 03:11:09 PM
Ideally the first game would be at home, and the first two would be against clubs who fell away at the end of last season. Norwich then Stoke would be good. After that Manchester United and Chelsea, to get them out of the way. Fulham away should always be some time in spring, so the weather's not bad and we have something to look forward to.
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Post by: eastie on June 14, 2013, 03:12:47 PM
Ideally the first game would be at home, and the first two would be against clubs who fell away at the end of last season. Norwich then Stoke would be good. After that Manchester United and Chelsea, to get them out of the way. Fulham away should always be some time in spring, so the weather's not bad and we have something to look forward to.

Wouldnt fancy stoke at the start of the Hughes reign, Norwich and Fulham or Albion will do nicely.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 14, 2013, 03:17:02 PM
Ideally the first game would be at home, and the first two would be against clubs who fell away at the end of last season. Norwich then Stoke would be good. After that Manchester United and Chelsea, to get them out of the way. Fulham away should always be some time in spring, so the weather's not bad and we have something to look forward to.

Wouldnt fancy stoke at the start of the Hughes reign, Norwich and Fulham or Albion will do nicely.

I would. They don't want him, the pressure's on from the start.
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Post by: eastie on June 14, 2013, 03:18:58 PM
Ideally the first game would be at home, and the first two would be against clubs who fell away at the end of last season. Norwich then Stoke would be good. After that Manchester United and Chelsea, to get them out of the way. Fulham away should always be some time in spring, so the weather's not bad and we have something to look forward to.

Wouldnt fancy stoke at the start of the Hughes reign, Norwich and Fulham or Albion will do nicely.

I would. They don't want him, the pressure's on from the start.

He can't put worse football on offer than pulis though can he?
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Post by: rob_bridge on June 14, 2013, 03:19:07 PM
You don't get local derbies first game, last game or Boxing Day.
Always used to get them on Boxing Day.

We played Albion first game in the mid 80s. We won 4-3 - 6 goals before half time - blazing hot.



PWS thank you shall enjoy later with a glass of vino
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14
Post by: rob_bridge on June 14, 2013, 03:20:45 PM
Ideally the first game would be at home, and the first two would be against clubs who fell away at the end of last season. Norwich then Stoke would be good. After that Manchester United and Chelsea, to get them out of the way. Fulham away should always be some time in spring, so the weather's not bad and we have something to look forward to.

Wouldnt fancy stoke at the start of the Hughes reign, Norwich and Fulham or Albion will do nicely.

I would. They don't want him, the pressure's on from the start.

He can't put worse football on offer than pulis though can he?

Nope he probably can't. 5 years ago we beat Cit-eh when he had just taken over 4-2. If that is an omen worth clinging to. If we do get them early doors
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14
Post by: eastie on June 14, 2013, 03:22:35 PM
Remember that Albion game well , bank holiday weekend and we beat sunderland at villa park on the Monday 1-0 - strange to start with 2 home games in the opening 3 days.
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Post by: Concrete John on June 14, 2013, 03:23:56 PM
Being away first game is always hard, not matter who you're playing, as you're not just playing the team, but the natural hope and expectation a new season brings to all football fans.  Double that if it's a promoted club away.
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Post by: Pete3206 on June 16, 2013, 11:17:24 AM
Fixtures this Wednesday?
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Post by: Damo70 on June 16, 2013, 11:32:45 AM
9am this Wednesday. Has anyone got any clever linky thing to the average away ticket allocations of our nineteen PL opponents this season?
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Post by: silhillvilla on June 16, 2013, 11:35:19 AM
We will surely kick off with a home game this season ?
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Post by: Pete3206 on June 16, 2013, 11:40:14 AM
9am this Wednesday. Has anyone got any clever linky thing to the average away ticket allocations of our nineteen PL opponents this season?

Football Ground Guide should have that info.
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Post by: silhillvilla on June 16, 2013, 02:53:15 PM
I'd hazard a guess at 2,000 as an average.
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Post by: john in oz on June 17, 2013, 04:31:47 PM
at least 2 of the 3 teams promoted will play against the top teams,would bet on that
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Post by: hipkiss92 on June 18, 2013, 01:08:58 PM
Based on the Football League's anniversary match announcement I wouldn't be surprised if we played Everton Stoke or Baggies on the opening day
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Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 18, 2013, 01:10:16 PM
Based on the Football League's anniversary match announcement I wouldn't be surprised if we played Everton Stoke or Baggies on the opening day

I think the PL would rather we didn't know football existed without it.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14
Post by: rob_bridge on June 18, 2013, 01:11:21 PM
We will surely kick off with a home game this season ?

If not home then away - can't see us playing anyone on a neutral venue.
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Post by: Ads on June 18, 2013, 01:43:48 PM
at least 2 of the 3 teams promoted will play against the top teams,would bet on that


Chelsea will have Hull at home. Guaranteed.
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Post by: richard moore on June 18, 2013, 01:52:27 PM
I always miss the first couple of games due to still being on my jolly hols - Aix En Provence again this year - so Palace or Fulham away the second or third Saturday in would suit me as a good opportunity to see the 'new' team and meet up with friends from here
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14
Post by: Ads on June 18, 2013, 01:59:32 PM
Fulham at home would be ideal.
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Post by: Billy Walker on June 18, 2013, 02:03:54 PM
Seeing as it's the 125th anniversary of the setting up of the world's first football league, I'm wondering if the Premier League will pay tribute (as the Football League are doing) by pairing up original founding members for the opening day of fixtures?  An Aston Villa v Everton opener would be good and fitting.

For anyone interested, the Football League have set up a website to celebrate the anniversary, here's a fitting link:
http://fl125.co.uk/about

The more I think about it the more I would like to see Villa put a more visible reminder inside Villa Park of our place as the League's creators.  Something big and bold that the TV cameras will catch every time Villa are being covered:  "THE BIRTHPLACE OF THE GAME" or some such statement.  (It would be a whole lot better than the wishy-washy "Theatre of Dreams" stuff that other clubs seem to get away with.)

*Apologies to Hipkiss, just noticed your post.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14
Post by: cdbearsfan on June 18, 2013, 04:27:10 PM
Completely pointless predictions for opening fixtures:

Arsenal v Sunderland
Cardiff v Liverpool
Crystal Palace v Man City
Everton v Villa
Fulham v Swansea
Man Utd v Hull
Newcastle v Chelsea
Norwich v West Ham
Southampton v Spurs
West Brom v Stoke
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 18, 2013, 05:22:19 PM
Or at least get a banner that makes more sense than the 1874 one on The Holte.
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on June 18, 2013, 05:38:39 PM
I always miss the first couple of games due to still being on my jolly hols - Aix En Provence again this year - so Palace or Fulham away the second or third Saturday in would suit me as a good opportunity to see the 'new' team and meet up with friends from here

As above for me - slumming it up in Saumur on 17th. Knowing my luck first game will be my local - i.e. Everton at Goodison !
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14
Post by: eric woolban woolban on June 18, 2013, 07:12:26 PM
As there us a two week gap between the opening football league and premier league fixtures its hard to predict if villa will be home or away.
With wolves away first I thought if we played the week after we'd definitely be at home.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14
Post by: Lsvilla on June 18, 2013, 07:33:55 PM
Do you think with all these signings already Lambert thought we actually had a game tomorrow ?
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14
Post by: paulcomben on June 18, 2013, 07:55:50 PM
And on the eve of Fixtures Day, the excited faithful assemble to contemplate the annual ritual. Behold, the fixtures announced by the organisers of the Premier League on that day. And lo, they are repeatedly changed by the paymaster charlatans of Sky and BT Sport until 330 days thereafter.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14
Post by: Legion on June 18, 2013, 09:13:37 PM
Anyone away. Don't care who.
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Post by: AlwaysAVFC on June 18, 2013, 09:16:56 PM
And on the eve of Fixtures Day, the excited faithful assemble to contemplate the annual ritual. Behold, the fixtures announced by the organisers of the Premier League on that day. And lo, they are repeatedly changed by the paymaster charlatans of Sky and BT Sport until 330 days thereafter.

And not forgetting because of our successful FA Cup run this coming season.  :D
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14
Post by: neo_Villan on June 18, 2013, 09:47:56 PM
Anyone away. Don't care who.
We've begun away for the last two seasons. Want a home game this time.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14
Post by: wozwebs on June 18, 2013, 10:05:00 PM
Image floating on Facebook of a computer screen with the fixtures on. Swansea away first then west ham at home. Could obviously be bollocks
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14
Post by: paulcomben on June 18, 2013, 10:08:24 PM
Home game. Hot August day. Loads of new players. New home shirt. No jacket necessary. No idea whether Villa shall be great or shit or dull all season. No current intell on the best place to get two pre-match pints within a reasonable time. New edition of H&V. Balti on the way home. Ultimate pleasure.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 18, 2013, 10:14:47 PM
Image floating on Facebook of a computer screen with the fixtures on. Swansea away first then west ham at home. Could obviously be bollocks

It is.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 18, 2013, 10:27:01 PM
My guess (based on random choosing) is as follows:

Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur   
Crystal Palace v West Bromwich Albion
Everton v Cardiff City   
Fulham v Southampton   
Hull City v Swansea City
Manchester United v Newcastle United   
Norwich City v Chelsea   
Stoke City v Liverpool   
Sunderland v Manchester City
West Ham United v Arsenal

Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14
Post by: cdbearsfan on June 18, 2013, 10:38:46 PM
One of Arsenal/Spurs will be at home, I'd imagine Cardiff and Swansea will rotate too.
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Post by: saunders_heroes on June 18, 2013, 10:55:25 PM
Home game first please. Gets some points on the board as early as possible.
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Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on June 18, 2013, 11:08:03 PM
With our home record!
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14
Post by: cdbearsfan on June 18, 2013, 11:25:37 PM
I'd like Man U at home first. They (and Moyes) don't tend to start too spectacularly. In the two games in the last twenty years where they've had to visit Villa Park in August we've won one and drawn one.

I will settle for no newly-promoted sides away till at least September, and please, for once, a vaguely non-horrific Christmas/New Year run.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14
Post by: Damo70 on June 18, 2013, 11:30:28 PM
Home to Spurs 12pm kick off.
Away to Stoke  8pm kick off.
Both on Boxing day, both live on SKY.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14
Post by: DeKuip on June 19, 2013, 01:04:58 AM
I'd like Man U at home first. They (and Moyes) don't tend to start too spectacularly. In the two games in the last twenty years where they've had to visit Villa Park in August we've won one and drawn one.

I will settle for no newly-promoted sides away till at least September, and please, for once, a vaguely non-horrific Christmas/New Year run.

I think the champions always start at home.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14
Post by: kainz on June 19, 2013, 03:52:03 AM
Now footballer berserk Yeah, all clubs are expensive exchange players.
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Post by: The Left Side on June 19, 2013, 04:50:51 AM
Anyone at home, no wait manure at home like in 95.
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Post by: TaxDodger on June 19, 2013, 06:36:27 AM
Norwich at home will be our first game.
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Post by: eric woolban woolban on June 19, 2013, 07:36:22 AM
Fulham home.
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Post by: ozzjim on June 19, 2013, 07:39:25 AM
I would love a cushy home.

Really want a nice home game boxing day too, against say, Norwich at VP, that we are likely to win and is likely not to get moved.

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Post by: MONCABA on June 19, 2013, 08:14:50 AM
I always prefer an away game on Boxing day.
Gives me time to get over my hangover.....and Christmas pud
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Post by: Nev on June 19, 2013, 08:32:00 AM
We're at home first.....
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Post by: Nev on June 19, 2013, 08:32:33 AM
We're at home first.....

...or, we might be....
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Post by: manic-road on June 19, 2013, 08:41:20 AM
Hull home!
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Post by: jwarry on June 19, 2013, 08:47:07 AM
Shit, Arse, 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' and Chelsea!
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Post by: Matt Collins on June 19, 2013, 08:47:48 AM
I think it'll be Hull for some reason.
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Post by: Fin Feds Dad on June 19, 2013, 08:49:21 AM
Hull (A)
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Post by: prmort on June 19, 2013, 08:50:15 AM
arse a
'The Mighty Reds YNWA' h
chelski a
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Post by: Ads on June 19, 2013, 08:50:32 AM
Now footballer berserk Yeah, all clubs are expensive exchange players.

Agreed.
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Post by: Nev on June 19, 2013, 08:51:00 AM
Shit, Arse, 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' and Chelsea!

 
A, H, A.

Got to play 'em sometime....

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Post by: ACVilla on June 19, 2013, 08:51:20 AM
Swansea (a)
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Post by: Ads on June 19, 2013, 08:51:38 AM
Liverpool away.
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Post by: Smirker on June 19, 2013, 08:52:19 AM
Leaked early - http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-fixtures-2013-14-full-4569109?

17/08/2013   15:00   Arsenal (a)

24/08/2013   15:00   Liverpool (h)

31/08/2013   15:00   Chelsea (a)

14/09/2013   15:00   Newcastle United (h)

21/09/2013   15:00   Norwich City (a)
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Post by: cdbearsfan on June 19, 2013, 08:55:55 AM
Ah well, decent Christmas for once... hmmm... page now deleted looks like somebody accidentally broke their embargo.
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Post by: manic-road on June 19, 2013, 08:56:33 AM
Leaked early - http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-fixtures-2013-14-full-4569109?

17/08/2013   15:00   Arsenal (a)

24/08/2013   15:00   Liverpool (h)

31/08/2013   15:00   Chelsea (a)

14/09/2013   15:00   Newcastle United (h)

21/09/2013   15:00   Norwich City (a)
If that's true that will be a tough start
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Post by: andyh on June 19, 2013, 08:58:14 AM
If true, thats fucking horrible !
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Post by: Phil from the upper holte on June 19, 2013, 08:58:29 AM
That had better be wrong
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Post by: Tom_Mc9? on June 19, 2013, 08:59:55 AM
Start and end with away matches again, which is annoying.
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Post by: Phil from the upper holte on June 19, 2013, 09:00:48 AM
It's correct

Bollocks
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Post by: Phil from the upper holte on June 19, 2013, 09:02:45 AM
Not impressed
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Post by: SoccerHQ on June 19, 2013, 09:02:50 AM
Arsenal away comfirmed, August going to be an expensive month!
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14
Post by: Nev on June 19, 2013, 09:03:22 AM
Arse is not bad first game, catch 'em cold. Liverpool are still no great shakes and the hype will have died down by the time we go back to London to face Chelsea.

Piece of piss.
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Post by: Ads on June 19, 2013, 09:03:34 AM
Four out of the first six are very tough.
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Post by: Damo70 on June 19, 2013, 09:04:00 AM
One postponement already. Chelsea game on 31/8 due to their Super Cup match.
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Post by: villabear on June 19, 2013, 09:04:49 AM
Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea first three. 9 points then.
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Post by: Toronto Villa on June 19, 2013, 09:05:04 AM
Better get those bigger games out of the way early as opposed to when those teams have settled down and in full flight.
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Post by: Holte132 on June 19, 2013, 09:05:53 AM
Must be some mistake - Stoke is on December 21st and not 26th!
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Post by: tom jennings III on June 19, 2013, 09:06:17 AM
First 3 will be Arsenal (A), Liverpool (H) and Newcastle (H) (Chelsea game post-poned due to Supercup).
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Post by: john e on June 19, 2013, 09:07:03 AM
its a bad thing that's happened
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Post by: sid1964 on June 19, 2013, 09:07:10 AM
How come our season starts away and ends away???

Tough start but we have to play everyone twice!!!
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Post by: Clampy on June 19, 2013, 09:09:08 AM
Better get those bigger games out of the way early as opposed to when those teams have settled down and in full flight.

That was my first thought as well.
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Post by: SoccerHQ on June 19, 2013, 09:10:03 AM
Dosen't look too bad to me, Liverpool had a really slow start last season and Arsenal drew 0-0 at home to Sunderland on the opening day last year so better to get the top teams early.

December looks kind for once (Palace at home boxing day surely won't be moved?!), March looks hardest.

Shame Southampton away is on a Tuesday, was planning to go to that.
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Post by: Damo70 on June 19, 2013, 09:10:26 AM
One home game and three away in February.
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Post by: Lambert and Payne on June 19, 2013, 09:10:55 AM
Albion home on a night is an interesting one...
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Post by: Nev on June 19, 2013, 09:11:09 AM
Will you look at that, Newton Heath. At Home. In December. Fuck me.
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Post by: Lambert and Payne on June 19, 2013, 09:11:52 AM
March is a really tough month. These fixtures haven't exactly been kind to us
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Post by: Nev on June 19, 2013, 09:13:15 AM
I can't see a decent day out anywhere amongst that lot.
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Post by: andyh on June 19, 2013, 09:14:22 AM
The run in looks a piece a piss - a late charge for Europe I reckon !!
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Post by: martyn ellis on June 19, 2013, 09:14:27 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong but the last time we played Arsenal away first game of the season I think Olof Mellberg scored the first competitive goal at the Emirates and we ended up drawing. Good omen?
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Post by: darren woolley on June 19, 2013, 09:16:06 AM
A nice away day to start with.
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Post by: eastie on June 19, 2013, 09:16:14 AM
Just popped on to get a quick look at the fixtures- tough start - 3 week break after the Liverpool game which is not ideal - busy day so enjoy discussing - Chelsea postponed already which may not be a bad thing.
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Post by: danlanza on June 19, 2013, 09:16:54 AM
What a first three games that is!!!!!!!
9 easy points to start us off with.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on June 19, 2013, 09:17:27 AM
Could have been worse; we've got some hard ones out of the way early and a coupe of potential strugglers mixed in with them with none of the new clubs or managers when they're still excited. I can't see why people are so upset - we've got the same 19 opponents home and away as everyone else.
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Post by: lovejoy on June 19, 2013, 09:18:30 AM
My two week holiday in August means I miss 2 of the London away fixtures which, when you live in Sussex, is a pain.
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Post by: Tom_Mc9? on June 19, 2013, 09:18:57 AM
Also, the teams at the beginning won't have a clue what our players are like. There'll be an upset in there.
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Post by: nigel on June 19, 2013, 09:19:56 AM
Albion at home, on a Tuesday!!!!!!
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Post by: Jimbo on June 19, 2013, 09:20:16 AM
It's a good job we're getting players in early because we'll need players to be settled and up for it right from the off. It'll be nice to live up to our club motto for once in a while.
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Post by: Smirker on June 19, 2013, 09:20:40 AM
Could have been worse; we've got some hard ones out of the way early and a coupe of potential strugglers mixed in with them with none of the new clubs or managers when they're still excited. I can't see why people are so upset - we've got the same 19 opponents home and away as everyone else.

Thing is after the season we've just had it would have been ideal to get someone at home, preferably not one of the top 4, so we can get the win as soon as possible.

We still can of course, but it's not ideal.

We don't want to lose the first two and be worried about another relegation battle.
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Post by: Damo70 on June 19, 2013, 09:23:05 AM
The first few fixtures look better with the Chelsea game taken out.
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Post by: paulcomben on June 19, 2013, 09:23:09 AM
Has any kind person listed the dates of League Cup and FA Cup ties yet? Also, Europa League so that we will know when our matches will be moved to Sundays.
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Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on June 19, 2013, 09:23:17 AM
I think that's a very bad start to the season. Potentially two defeats out of our first three games. Would've much preferred to get a couple of wins and then play the likes of Arsenal and Chelsea.

On the other hand, get a good couple of results out of it and it sets the team up with a bit of confidence.
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Post by: PaulWinch again on June 19, 2013, 09:23:58 AM
That is a tough tough start.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on June 19, 2013, 09:24:01 AM
Do not post a full set of fixtures as this breaches copyright.
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Post by: SoccerHQ on June 19, 2013, 09:24:21 AM
I can't see a decent day out anywhere amongst that lot.

Yeah Cardiff away also  is a Tuesday night.
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Post by: villajk on June 19, 2013, 09:24:31 AM
Not happy with being away on New Year's Day.  Again.  And at friggin Sunderland.
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Post by: Lastfootstamper on June 19, 2013, 09:25:45 AM
December looks good for gathering a bit of momentum heading into our glorious victorious run for the Cup
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Post by: danlanza on June 19, 2013, 09:25:58 AM
Do not post a full set of fixtures as this breaches copyright.
Does it really ? I never knew that. Seems a bit tight.
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Post by: SoccerHQ on June 19, 2013, 09:26:35 AM
I think that's a very bad start to the season. Potentially two defeats out of our first three games. Would've much preferred to get a couple of wins and then play the likes of Arsenal and Chelsea.

On the other hand, get a good couple of results out of it and it sets the team up with a bit of confidence.

Chelsea away will be moved though and most likely played in November or something.

Don't see why we won't get a point v Liverpool at least as Sturridge is still be injured and the Suarez saga could still rumble on.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 19, 2013, 09:26:45 AM
Do not post a full set of fixtures as this breaches copyright.
Does it really ? I never knew that. Seems a bit tight.

It is, but that's the Premier £eague for you.
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Post by: paulcomben on June 19, 2013, 09:27:50 AM
Has any kind person listed the dates of League Cup and FA Cup ties yet? Also, Europa League so that we will know when our matches will be moved to Sundays.

http://www.football-league.co.uk/page/KeyDates
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: danlanza on June 19, 2013, 09:28:21 AM
Do not post a full set of fixtures as this breaches copyright.
Does it really ? I never knew that. Seems a bit tight.

It is, but that's the Premier £eague for you.
Maybe a daft question but why are all papers allowed to print the full list ? Payments made i suppose ?
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Post by: SoccerHQ on June 19, 2013, 09:32:01 AM
Arsenal/Liverpool are certs to be moved for Sky/Bet, please no Monday night games at least.

Chelsea will be midweek regardless.
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Post by: jonzy85 on June 19, 2013, 09:34:10 AM
Arsenal/Liverpool are certs to be moved for Sky/Bet, please no Monday night games at least.

Chelsea will be midweek regardless.

Anyone know when Sky get to work on this fixture list? Villa Arsenal 12.45 on the Saturday?
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Post by: maidstonevillain on June 19, 2013, 09:37:04 AM
The run in looks a piece a piss - a late charge for Europe I reckon !!

Don't like "easy run ins". These are the opposition teams that could be fighting for their lives.
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Post by: Richie on June 19, 2013, 09:37:30 AM
Suarez will still be serving his ban when they come down to Villa Park.

That's about the only good thing I can think of with the start we've got !
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 19, 2013, 09:38:01 AM
Do not post a full set of fixtures as this breaches copyright.
Does it really ? I never knew that. Seems a bit tight.

It is, but that's the Premier £eague for you.
Maybe a daft question but why are all papers allowed to print the full list ? Payments made i suppose ?

You can buy a licence to print them.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: Nev on June 19, 2013, 09:38:08 AM
Arsenal/Liverpool are certs to be moved for Sky/Bet, please no Monday night games at least.

Chelsea will be midweek regardless.

Anyone know when Sky get to work on this fixture list? Villa Arsenal 12.45 on the Saturday?

Nah, Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea and Everton will be first picks on account of the managerial situation.
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Post by: SoccerHQ on June 19, 2013, 09:38:48 AM
Arsenal/Liverpool are certs to be moved for Sky/Bet, please no Monday night games at least.

Chelsea will be midweek regardless.

Anyone know when Sky get to work on this fixture list? Villa Arsenal 12.45 on the Saturday?

Usually about 3 weeks so second week of July.

Is there an increase of Monday night games this season, really can't stand them.
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Post by: fbriai on June 19, 2013, 09:40:04 AM
Anyone know when Sky get to work on this fixture list? Villa Arsenal 12.45 on the Saturday?

Last week the Premier League website stated that fixtures would be made available today and would then be carved up for broadcast within two to three weeks, or words to that effect. I can't find the link anymore though.
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Post by: Dr Butler on June 19, 2013, 09:41:23 AM
shite, forgot about SKY interfering with the fixtures....please leave the opening day alone.  Sat 3pm please..

UTV
The Doc
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Post by: ciggiesnbeer on June 19, 2013, 09:42:39 AM
Sod it, we are going to win every game.  ;D
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Post by: jonzy85 on June 19, 2013, 09:42:47 AM
Have ESPN still got the 5.30 p.m. slot?
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: fbriai on June 19, 2013, 09:43:00 AM
Anyone know when Sky get to work on this fixture list? Villa Arsenal 12.45 on the Saturday?

Last week the Premier League website stated that fixtures would be made available today and would then be carved up for broadcast within two to three weeks, or words to that effect. I can't find the link anymore though.

Found it: When does the 2013/14 season start? (http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/fans/faqs/when-does-2013-14-season-start/)
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Post by: paulcomben on June 19, 2013, 09:45:27 AM
Has any kind person listed the dates of League Cup and FA Cup ties yet? Also, Europa League so that we will know when our matches will be moved to Sundays.

http://www.football-league.co.uk/page/KeyDates

The only effect the Europa League would have on Villa depends upon Swansea reaching the semi-final - first leg on April 24 2014. Not too likely. The remaining 3 Spurs & Swansea league fixtures would not be affected, due to no Europa League ties on the Thursdays before.
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Post by: Axl Rose on June 19, 2013, 09:45:28 AM
Come on lads, there is a nice sense of optimism building at Villa right now. These first few games are a good test. I feel we will be harder to beat this year. I'm looking forward to it! Up the Villa!
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Post by: Malandro on June 19, 2013, 09:46:02 AM
http://www.givemesport.com/353374-arsenal-handed-comfortable-opener-with-aston-villa

Comfortable!
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: danlanza on June 19, 2013, 09:46:13 AM
Do not post a full set of fixtures as this breaches copyright.
Does it really ? I never knew that. Seems a bit tight.

It is, but that's the Premier £eague for you.
Maybe a daft question but why are all papers allowed to print the full list ? Payments made i suppose ?

You can buy a licence to print them.
Cheers Dave.
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Post by: Damo70 on June 19, 2013, 09:47:38 AM
The new era at United and Jose's return guarantee those two will be live games. The SKY favourites play each other in a couple of early fixtures so I don't think Arsenal would top the list from the rest of the games. Palace v Spurs maybe.
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Post by: CJ on June 19, 2013, 09:47:58 AM
Arse, 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' and Chelsea to start, away first and last games of the season again - either someone doesn't like us or they're taking the piss. Surprised they didn't make the Palace game away on Boxing Day just to rub it in!
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Post by: Nev on June 19, 2013, 09:48:27 AM
http://www.givemesport.com/353374-arsenal-handed-comfortable-opener-with-aston-villa

Comfortable!

Lovely. Just what I like to see.
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Post by: dekko on June 19, 2013, 09:52:39 AM
It could be a lot worse, our run in is a piece of cake (apart from spuds away).

Glad i'm not Norwich - they finish with Liverpool - Man Utd - Chelsea - Arsenal!
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Post by: Pete3206 on June 19, 2013, 09:53:30 AM
'The Mighty Reds YNWA' is a dead cert for TV
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Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on June 19, 2013, 09:54:15 AM
I think that's a very bad start to the season. Potentially two defeats out of our first three games. Would've much preferred to get a couple of wins and then play the likes of Arsenal and Chelsea.

On the other hand, get a good couple of results out of it and it sets the team up with a bit of confidence.

Chelsea away will be moved though and most likely played in November or something.

Don't see why we won't get a point v Liverpool at least as Sturridge is still be injured and the Suarez saga could still rumble on.

I agree about Liverpool. We should be looking to win that one.

Why will Chelsea away be moved?
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Post by: Damo70 on June 19, 2013, 09:54:37 AM
Have ESPN still got the 5.30 p.m. slot?

I think it is tied up with BT sport now. My old man, like me, has SKY sports but not ESPN. But from next season he can now get the BT sports including their PL games free because he has BT broadband.
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Post by: DeKuip on June 19, 2013, 09:59:52 AM
We seem to start our season in London more often than any of the London clubs.
I don't mind that, but finishing at Spurs doesn't sound like fun - or Sunderland away on New Year's Day and Cardiff away on a Tuesday night in February!

The TV games don't get announced until July 8th so don't get booking trains or planes just yet.
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Post by: Tuscans on June 19, 2013, 10:00:26 AM
Norwich is a lovely month, so is December apart from Man. Utd....."we are staying up, say we are staying up"
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Post by: Lambert and Payne on June 19, 2013, 10:05:54 AM
New Years Eve will be celebrated in Newcastle then. Looking forward to the 23rd November...
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Post by: Jimbo on June 19, 2013, 10:07:52 AM
Do any of the Sky Four ever play each other on the first day?
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Post by: Ads on June 19, 2013, 10:07:55 AM
I always fancy us at Arsenal. There has only been one occassion since they moved when we've been awful and that was under TSM.

The other time they did us 3-0 was when Fabregas was wheeled out for twenty minutes while injured and put in a world class performance.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: The Man With A Stick on June 19, 2013, 10:10:05 AM
At least we're guaranteed to be at home at 3pm on Boxing Day for the first time since about 1989.  There's no way they'll move the Palace game for TV.
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Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 19, 2013, 10:11:05 AM
Why will Chelsea away be moved?

They're playing Bayern in the Super Cup that weekend.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: CJ on June 19, 2013, 10:11:49 AM
I think that's a very bad start to the season. Potentially two defeats out of our first three games. Would've much preferred to get a couple of wins and then play the likes of Arsenal and Chelsea.

On the other hand, get a good couple of results out of it and it sets the team up with a bit of confidence.

Chelsea away will be moved though and most likely played in November or something.

Don't see why we won't get a point v Liverpool at least as Sturridge is still be injured and the Suarez saga could still rumble on.

I agree about Liverpool. We should be looking to win that one.

Why will Chelsea away be moved?

They play Bayern in the Super Cup on Friday 30th
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Post by: CJ on June 19, 2013, 10:12:12 AM
Snap
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Post by: Brend'Watkins on June 19, 2013, 10:19:26 AM
I always fancy us at Arsenal. There has only been one occassion since they moved when we've been awful and that was under TSM.


Stan's last game wasn't it?
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: olaftab on June 19, 2013, 10:19:26 AM
Better get those bigger games out of the way early as opposed to when those teams have settled down and in full flight.
This.
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Post by: paulcomben on June 19, 2013, 10:19:36 AM
Arse, 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' and Chelsea to start, away first and last games of the season again - either someone doesn't like us or they're taking the piss. Surprised they didn't make the Palace game away on Boxing Day just to rub it in!

The Palace fans have the reverse journey, though. And I could see it becoming the 5.30 TV game.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: olaftab on June 19, 2013, 10:22:54 AM
FFS so many years now since we had a home game as opening fixture!
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Post by: nigel on June 19, 2013, 10:29:41 AM
FFS so many years now since we had a home game as opening fixture!

Season before last, Blackburn with AMcL, wasn't it?
So, not that long ago
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Post by: olaftab on June 19, 2013, 10:30:41 AM
No McLeish started Fulham away.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 19, 2013, 10:31:32 AM
FFS so many years now since we had a home game as opening fixture!

Season before last, Blackburn with AMcL, wasn't it?
So, not that long ago

Fulham away was first game that season.
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Post by: Billy Walker on June 19, 2013, 10:31:47 AM
Bring it all on.  I'm surprised we are not at home for our first game but, apart from that, I've no complaints.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 19, 2013, 10:32:20 AM
10/11 was the last time we started at home, West Ham just after Pubey did a runner.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on June 19, 2013, 10:32:28 AM
It was the season before that - Kevin MacDonald's 3-0 win against West Ham.

To be fair, we have had our fair share of first games at home.

2010/11 West Ham
2009/10 Wigan
2008/09 Man City
2007/08 Liverpool
2005/06 Bolton
2004/05 Southampton
2002/03 Liverpool
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Post by: JUAN PABLO on June 19, 2013, 10:33:25 AM
I am glad we have not got any of the promoted teams early.  that is always the worse team to play them .
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 19, 2013, 10:33:43 AM
And iirc that was the 4th straight season we started at home.
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Post by: CJ on June 19, 2013, 10:35:00 AM
Arse, 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' and Chelsea to start, away first and last games of the season again - either someone doesn't like us or they're taking the piss. Surprised they didn't make the Palace game away on Boxing Day just to rub it in!

The Palace fans have the reverse journey, though. And I could see it becoming the 5.30 TV game.

Yeah but getting to Villa Park (for them) is a massive sight easier than us getting to Selhurst Park anytime, let alone on a Bank Holiday when public transport in that there London will be limited.
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Post by: tom jennings III on June 19, 2013, 10:35:33 AM
ESPN won't be showing any EPL games this coming season, BT have got 1 of the 5 packages (with Sky having the other 4). I've been told BT will actually be showing the 12.45 Saturday games rather than the 17.30's that ESPN have, not sure if that's correct or not.

News International have the online rights so they're going to make The Sun (like The Times is already) a paid online service and will have an app out like ESPN.
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Post by: supertom on June 19, 2013, 10:36:13 AM
Tough start. I dunno, you could argue it gets some hard games out the way early, but it all honesty I want our new side to hit the ground running. It would have been nice to get Hull at home to start, and a few low end teams in the first months. That said if we pull off a couple of good results it'll do this team wonders I think. Liverpool will not relish visiting us because of Benteke. Newcastle is a good game to have early, whilst they're still suffering the Kinnear effect.
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Post by: Ads on June 19, 2013, 10:42:10 AM
Liverpool at home is not an easy fixture, but then its not a hard one either. They're just about upper end mid-table and will be without their racist vampire.

Winnable? Too fucking right it is.
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Post by: He wears a magic hat on June 19, 2013, 10:43:13 AM
And Suarez will be suspended for the Liverpool game. So I see 3 points there
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Post by: regular_john on June 19, 2013, 10:43:20 AM
Not read through the rest of the thread yet, but I assume I'm not the first to say it - the idea that reproducing a list of football games is a punishable offence is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. Seriously, who thinks to copyright a fucking LIST?? And who the Hell gets pissy when it gets written down by somebody else?

When human civilisation collapses and the end times come, we'll look back at stupidity like this as the starting point.
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Post by: bilsim on June 19, 2013, 10:49:40 AM
Not read through the rest of the thread yet, but I assume I'm not the first to say it - the idea that reproducing a list of football games is a punishable offence is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. Seriously, who thinks to copyright a fucking LIST?? And who the Hell gets pissy when it gets written down by somebody else?

When human civilisation collapses and the end times come, we'll look back at stupidity like this as the starting point.

Ridonk.
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Post by: CJ on June 19, 2013, 10:51:43 AM
Not read through the rest of the thread yet, but I assume I'm not the first to say it - the idea that reproducing a list of football games is a punishable offence is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. Seriously, who thinks to copyright a fucking LIST?? And who the Hell gets pissy when it gets written down by somebody else?

When human civilisation collapses and the end times come, we'll look back at stupidity like this as the starting point.

Agreed - it's almost as bad as Gareth Bale (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2320959/Gareth-Bale-Tottenham-applies-trademark-goal-celebration.html) trademarking arranging your fingers in a certain way. What's he going to do if someone 'breeches' this copyright? And would said action make him look an even bigger prat?
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Post by: andyh on June 19, 2013, 10:52:29 AM
Stand out game on Boxing day is Man city v Liverpool.
Ours is not particularly attractive (to the masses) so hopefully we will avoid a 'stupid o'clock' kick off time for a change.
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Post by: warleyboy on June 19, 2013, 10:58:44 AM
First game of season, London.
Last game of season, london. Disgusting.....
At least one of those games should be a home game for fans.
Very unfair, hopefully get a draw at the emirates and sneak a win against those hub cap stealing scouters...UTV.
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Post by: OCD on June 19, 2013, 11:07:50 AM
The good aspect of the difficult start is that those sides won't be performing at their peak yet and Arsenal may have CL qualifiers on their mind. We could have done with a more winnable game in there somewhere but so be it.
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Post by: Dave Clark Five on June 19, 2013, 11:09:37 AM
Ridiculous New Years Day fixture.
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Post by: mr underhill on June 19, 2013, 11:19:43 AM
ridiculous fixtures the lot of them
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Post by: nigel on June 19, 2013, 11:31:16 AM
FFS so many years now since we had a home game as opening fixture!

Season before last, Blackburn with AMcL, wasn't it?
So, not that long ago

Fulham away was first game that season.

Stand corrected.
Thanks
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Post by: Tuscans on June 19, 2013, 11:42:37 AM
Woodo, what if I copy and paste the fixtures and tweak them? Like move Arsenal to the last game of the season and Spurs the first...then explain that's a mistake...is that still breaching copyright?

Or...if I just type out every fixture in bold, italics...is that still breach of copyright?

This is a serious post before you ask.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 19, 2013, 11:46:22 AM
I'm sure there was a time when a site posted the full fixtures but changed the names to nicknames etc. So the first 3 would be Gooners (A) Racists (H) Chavs (A), iirc it still caused issues.
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Post by: Tuscans on June 19, 2013, 11:52:08 AM
We could do it like this....Wenger (a) the Saturday after Friday 16th August
                                        Rogers (h)  the Saturday after Friday 23rd August

etc etc
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Post by: rob_bridge on June 19, 2013, 11:56:09 AM
Arse, 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' and Chelsea to start, away first and last games of the season again - either someone doesn't like us or they're taking the piss. Surprised they didn't make the Palace game away on Boxing Day just to rub it in!

The Palace fans have the reverse journey, though. And I could see it becoming the 5.30 TV game.

Seems like a perfect token game to put on as per us v Sturke a couple of years back and 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' v Sturke last year
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Post by: dave.woodhall on June 19, 2013, 11:58:57 AM
We could do it like this....Wenger (a) the Saturday after Friday 16th August
                                        Rogers (h)  the Saturday after Friday 23rd August

etc etc

We could. It would still breach copyright.
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Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on June 19, 2013, 12:04:01 PM
We could do it like this....Wenger (a) the Saturday after Friday 16th August
                                        Rogers (h)  the Saturday after Friday 23rd August

etc etc

We could. It would still breach copyright.

FFS
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Post by: Lambert and Payne on June 19, 2013, 12:07:07 PM
Stand out game on Boxing day is Man city v Liverpool.
Ours is not particularly attractive (to the masses) so hopefully we will avoid a 'stupid o'clock' kick off time for a change.

Also, Ull v Yanited & West Ham v Arse will be picks
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Post by: joe_c on June 19, 2013, 12:08:45 PM
First game of season, London.
Last game of season, london. Disgusting.....
At least one of those games should be a home game for fans.

Very unfair, hopefully get a draw at the emirates and sneak a win against those hub cap stealing scouters...UTV.

What if the club have requested away fixtures to allow extra for any work going on at Villa Park?
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Post by: Tuscans on June 19, 2013, 12:09:18 PM
We could do it like this....Wenger (a) the Saturday after Friday 16th August
                                        Rogers (h)  the Saturday after Friday 23rd August

etc etc

We could. It would still breach copyright.
But it isn't copied...its completely different. And what about during last season, people would put the next 5 fixtures in February, is that still copyright?

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Post by: regular_john on June 19, 2013, 12:11:23 PM
I have a solution!

I'm taking a trip to London to see my cousin on the 17th of August, I love him but he is a bit of an ARSE. The next week I'll be back in Brum, probably chilling at my mom's and listening to The Beatles, who were of course from LIVERPOOL. I have no plans for the next couple of weeks, although there's rumours of a big day out in NEWCASTLE on the 14th of September. Hopefully, the week after that, my cousins will come to Brum to hang out. They're from Lowestoft, which is of course near NORWICH. Slightly strange weekend planned after that, a good pal of mine has just come out and wants me to go to a club called MAN CITY with him, just for moral support.

And so on and so forth...
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Post by: Chris Jameson on June 19, 2013, 12:11:54 PM
sneak a win against those hub cap stealing scouters...UTV.

Bob a job week has changed since I were a lad.
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Post by: DeKuip on June 19, 2013, 12:13:10 PM
Not read through the rest of the thread yet, but I assume I'm not the first to say it - the idea that reproducing a list of football games is a punishable offence is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. Seriously, who thinks to copyright a fucking LIST?? And who the Hell gets pissy when it gets written down by somebody else?

When human civilisation collapses and the end times come, we'll look back at stupidity like this as the starting point.

So if we do list them we could say in defence that we did so to save civilisation.
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Post by: LeeS on June 19, 2013, 12:13:56 PM

Glad i'm not Norwich - they finish with Liverpool - Man Utd - Chelsea - Arsenal!

Ha Ha!
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Post by: dave.woodhall on June 19, 2013, 12:14:18 PM
We could do it like this....Wenger (a) the Saturday after Friday 16th August
                                        Rogers (h)  the Saturday after Friday 23rd August

etc etc

We could. It would still breach copyright.
But it isn't copied...its completely different. And what about during last season, people would put the next 5 fixtures in February, is that still copyright?



You can use small excerpts but not the whole thing. You can also use your idea, if you want to go to court and prove that you put together a completely random set of fixtures that just happened to come out like that.
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Post by: Brend'Watkins on June 19, 2013, 12:15:16 PM
We could do it like this....Wenger (a) the Saturday after Friday 16th August
                                        Rogers (h)  the Saturday after Friday 23rd August

etc etc

We could. It would still breach copyright.

FFS

Why not call it the 'Money Grabbing Twunts League'

We become 'Us' Arse stay as Arse, Chelsea stay as Chavski, Newcastle become Loony Toons etc, etc.

We then have a made up league with made up names.  I can't see Scudamore objecting to this.
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Post by: OCD on June 19, 2013, 12:17:27 PM
Just post a link to the fixture list on the club's website.
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Post by: Tuscans on June 19, 2013, 12:18:42 PM
We could do it like this....Wenger (a) the Saturday after Friday 16th August
                                        Rogers (h)  the Saturday after Friday 23rd August

etc etc

We could. It would still breach copyright.
But it isn't copied...its completely different. And what about during last season, people would put the next 5 fixtures in February, is that still copyright?



You can use small excerpts but not the whole thing. You can also use your idea, if you want to go to court and prove that you put together a completely random set of fixtures that just happened to come out like that.
Right then I get you, so it's more the order of fixtures than anything else. But with what you say in regards of using "small excerpts" on that basis you can copy Augusts fixtures and leave it at that until February?

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Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 19, 2013, 12:19:05 PM
We could communicate them via emoticons to express our feelings on each fixture.

:(
:(
:(
;)
:)

etc
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Post by: Tuscans on June 19, 2013, 12:19:25 PM
Just post a link to the fixture list on the club's website.
Oh yea
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Post by: glasses on June 19, 2013, 12:21:14 PM
The copyright thing is understandable. Various news agencies will have had to pay the FA for the rights to publish the fixtures on their websites/paper/whatever. It's a bit shit if five minutes after you publish them they appear on websites or such that haven't stumped up the fee. The BBC for example will be hoping you stick around and read the other stories on their site, likewise Sky.

DW, am I right in saying we can link to the various outlets that have the list of fixtures? If so what's the big deal?
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Post by: saunders_heroes on June 19, 2013, 12:30:20 PM
Home games on Boxing Day and Dec 28th. I like that.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on June 19, 2013, 12:32:25 PM
The copyright thing is understandable. Various news agencies will have had to pay the FA for the rights to publish the fixtures on their websites/paper/whatever. It's a bit shit if five minutes after you publish them they appear on websites or such that haven't stumped up the fee. The BBC for example will be hoping you stick around and read the other stories on their site, likewise Sky.

DW, am I right in saying we can link to the various outlets that have the list of fixtures? If so what's the big deal?

You can link to the sites that are allowed to publish them, who pay for the right.
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Post by: Lambert and Payne on June 19, 2013, 12:42:20 PM
Do Villa have to pay to publish fixtures?
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Post by: Holte L2 on June 19, 2013, 12:43:26 PM
Any ideas when Sky will tear up the fixture list and provide us with their version?  I'd like to get trains booked for Arsenal now.

Travelling from Manchester I can get a day return including travel card for £38.00 sweet.  Knowing my luck I'll book it and they will move us.

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Post by: saunders_heroes on June 19, 2013, 12:44:25 PM
Any ideas when Sky will tear up the fixture list and provide us with their version?  I'd like to get trains booked for Arsenal now.

Travelling from Manchester I can get a day return including travel card for £38.00 sweet.  Knowing my luck I'll book it and they will move us.



July 19th I think.
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Post by: D.boy on June 19, 2013, 12:46:23 PM
sneak a win against those hub cap stealing scouters...UTV.

Bob a job week has changed since I were a lad.

You should be on the Jimmy Savile thread.
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Post by: Ads on June 19, 2013, 12:54:14 PM
We could do it like this....Wenger (a) the Saturday after Friday 16th August
                                        Rogers (h)  the Saturday after Friday 23rd August

etc etc

We could. It would still breach copyright.
But it isn't copied...its completely different. And what about during last season, people would put the next 5 fixtures in February, is that still copyright?



Its passing off, which is an infringement of IP rights.
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Post by: Steve R on June 19, 2013, 01:12:36 PM
We could do it like this....Wenger (a) the Saturday after Friday 16th August
                                        Rogers (h)  the Saturday after Friday 23rd August

etc etc

Which is fine until you get as far as Newcastle
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Post by: Chris Jameson on June 19, 2013, 01:28:44 PM
Don't understand why they are so precious about the fixtures being published elsewhere, most of them will bear no relevance whatsoever to when the matches will actually be played.
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Post by: usav on June 19, 2013, 01:53:00 PM
at least 2 of the 3 teams promoted will play against the top teams,would bet on that


Chelsea will have Hull at home. Guaranteed.

Nailed it.
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Post by: Toronto Villa on June 19, 2013, 02:58:50 PM
The exciting thing for me about the fixture list is that it will give us a chance to pinch that final CL spot from Spurs in front of their fans, before we have to come back to London again for the FA Cup final the following weekend.
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Post by: garyshawsknee on June 19, 2013, 03:15:13 PM
The copywrite thing is another reason to hate modern football,it goes on the list in-between clubs that plays music after a goal and Tim Lovejoy.
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Post by: paul_e on June 19, 2013, 03:19:02 PM
The copywrite thing is another reason to hate modern football,it goes on the list in-between clubs that plays music after a goal and Tim Lovejoy.


Aww, one later so it was between Tim Lovejoy and the people that employed Tim Lovejoy (which is followed by people who like Tim Lovejoy) would be better.
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Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on June 19, 2013, 03:37:02 PM
Apart from the two home games over Christmas, I'm not very happy with the fixture list. I'd have liked to have seen a few more easier games in there to build up some momentum but we'll just have to hope we're firing on all cylinders from Day 1.

I can't understand the stupidity of all the games on January 1st. Apart from Fulham - West Ham, almost every away team's fans will have to travel ridiculous distances when there's little, if any, public transport.

At least some tradition has been kept with our last home game where we relegate somebody, poor old Hull will be the victims this season.
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Post by: garyshawsknee on June 19, 2013, 03:40:53 PM
The copywrite thing is another reason to hate modern football,it goes on the list in-between clubs that plays music after a goal and Tim Lovejoy.


Aww, one later so it was between Tim Lovejoy and the people that employed Tim Lovejoy (which is followed by people who like Tim Lovejoy) would be better.
The copywrite thing is another reason to hate modern football,it goes on the list in-between clubs that plays music after a goal and Tim Lovejoy.


Aww, one later so it was between Tim Lovejoy and the people that employed Tim Lovejoy (which is followed by people who like Tim Lovejoy) would be better.

Good point,followed by people who look like Tim Lovejoy.
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Post by: OCD on June 19, 2013, 03:43:15 PM
I see our game away to Chelsea has already bitten the dust - they're playing in the European Super Cup on the Friday.
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Post by: ColinMac on June 19, 2013, 04:05:02 PM
Shame about Cardiff away being a Tuesday night, would have made a weekend away out if that one, Southampton midweek is a pain or fans but will mean I should easily get tickets for my local game. 
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Post by: richard moore on June 19, 2013, 04:06:25 PM
The copywrite thing is another reason to hate modern football,it goes on the list in-between clubs that plays music after a goal and Tim Lovejoy.


Aww, one later so it was between Tim Lovejoy and the people that employed Tim Lovejoy (which is followed by people who like Tim Lovejoy) would be better.
The copywrite thing is another reason to hate modern football,it goes on the list in-between clubs that plays music after a goal and Tim Lovejoy.


Aww, one later so it was between Tim Lovejoy and the people that employed Tim Lovejoy (which is followed by people who like Tim Lovejoy) would be better.

Good point,followed by people who look like Tim Lovejoy.

He's on equal pegging with Eammon Holmes and James Nesbitt
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Post by: UK Redsox on June 19, 2013, 04:20:34 PM
Shame about Cardiff away being a Tuesday night, would have made a weekend away out if that one, Southampton midweek is a pain or fans but will mean I should easily get tickets for my local game. 

Cardiff on a Saturday early in the season would have been a blinder.

Tuesday night.... not so much
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Post by: The Left Side on June 19, 2013, 04:21:21 PM
Ouch that is a tough start to the season, who did we piss off at the Premier League.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on June 19, 2013, 04:23:54 PM
Ouch that is a tough start to the season, who did we piss off at the Premier League.

A top four contender, a fellow mid-table club and two relegation candidates in the first four games.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 19, 2013, 04:25:51 PM
Probably a good thing the Chavski game has been moved.

Sunderland away on NY day and Southampton away midweek are a bit shit.
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Post by: Lambert and Payne on June 19, 2013, 04:28:37 PM
Shame about Cardiff away being a Tuesday night, would have made a weekend away out if that one, Southampton midweek is a pain or fans but will mean I should easily get tickets for my local game. 

Cardiff on a Saturday early in the season would have been a blinder.

Tuesday night.... not so much

Still think it will be a struggle to get tickets, brand new ground and a small allocation.
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Post by: Lambert and Payne on June 19, 2013, 04:30:03 PM
Probably a good thing the Chavski game has been moved.

Sunderland away on NY day and Southampton away midweek are a bit shit.

I think S'land will see there being a large number of Villa. Should imagine a fair few will go up to Newcastle for the night
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Post by: nevillain on June 19, 2013, 05:16:21 PM
Probably a good thing the Chavski game has been moved.

Sunderland away on NY day and Southampton away midweek are a bit shit.

Err... Not if you live in Sunderland it isn't :)
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Post by: TopDeck113 on June 19, 2013, 06:44:05 PM
Quite happy with the start.  The title contenders can start slowly, so a point at the Library is up for grabs, Liverpool without Suarez is winnable, then an extended break, and then the first nailed on 3 points against the close-season crisis club...
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Post by: SoccerHQ on June 19, 2013, 06:50:03 PM
Home games on Boxing Day and Dec 28th. I like that.

Let's hope they're a bit better than last season's effort.

Love the xmas games.
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Post by: paul_e on June 19, 2013, 06:50:30 PM
Quite happy with the start.  The title contenders can start slowly, so a point at the Library is up for grabs, Liverpool without Suarez is winnable, then an extended break, and then the first nailed on 3 points against the close-season crisis club...

Liverpool without Suarez and Sturridge.  Given how well Sturridge did for them in the 2nd half of the season I think he's just as big a loss.  If only Gerrard and Coutinho pick up knocks.
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Post by: SoccerHQ on June 19, 2013, 06:52:25 PM
Shame about Cardiff away being a Tuesday night, would have made a weekend away out if that one, Southampton midweek is a pain or fans but will mean I should easily get tickets for my local game. 

Those were two of the aways I was planning to do this season so hacked off with both being 2 of the few midweek dates.

Surprised the WBA being midweek got past WMP.
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Post by: Uknowthescore on June 19, 2013, 06:57:42 PM
If we're not in the bottom 3 by the end of August were doing well
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Post by: Weedy on June 19, 2013, 06:58:25 PM
Ladbrokes have us at 1500/1 for the title and 13/2 for relegation.
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Post by: eamonn on June 19, 2013, 07:53:25 PM
Chelsea always seem to get a promoted team first at home. Jammy bastards. Would love to see Bruce fuck-up Mourinho's unbeaten home record at Chelsea on his first game back.
In fact the computer often throws out identikit fixtures to previous years (at home to West Ham at the start of Feb again).
Title: Chelsea Game
Post by: Bodymoor Heath on June 19, 2013, 08:07:38 PM
I see the Chelsea game has been postponed already due to them being involved in a European Game so we already have to re-arrange a game before the season starts !
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Post by: frank black on June 19, 2013, 09:08:53 PM
Arsenal up first then......Sure hope Benteke doesn't score.
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Post by: LeeS on June 19, 2013, 09:13:24 PM
In fact the computer often throws out identikit fixtures to previous years (at home to West Ham at the start of Feb again).

There are 380 games in a premier league season. Surely some of them will be at about the same time as the previous year.
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Post by: damon loves JT on June 19, 2013, 09:15:43 PM
Has anyone else done the BBC predictor thing? I already can't wait for the season to end
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Post by: SoccerHQ on June 19, 2013, 09:18:08 PM
I see the Chelsea game has been postponed already due to them being involved in a European Game so we already have to re-arrange a game before the season starts !

Don't think it's a bad thing.

Arsenal a
Liverpool h
Newcastle h
Norwich a

Looks much better as a run of games then.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: Pete3206 on June 19, 2013, 09:40:49 PM
Has anyone else done the BBC predictor thing? I already can't wait for the season to end

Yes, my results have us comfortably in 4th place.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on June 19, 2013, 09:51:14 PM
How the f**k are we away again on first and last games of the season?
Shake the f**kin' bag a bit for f**kin' f**k's sake!

And f**kin' Arsenal!
2 million f**kin' quid a ticket to be ripped off left, right and f**kin' centre! (tho' coming away with the 3 points will be nice!)
And f**kin' Spuds away last game! F**k my old boots, who sorts this f**kin' wanky fixture list out, the North f**kin' London Mafia?
C**ts!

Other than that, seems fine. :-)
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: eamonn on June 19, 2013, 09:59:20 PM
In fact the computer often throws out identikit fixtures to previous years (at home to West Ham at the start of Feb again).

There are 380 games in a premier league season. Surely some of them will be at about the same time as the previous year.

The last couple of seasons we've had a chunk on the same weekend as the previous year. Seems like too much of a coincidence. Maybe they allow for a certain amount of fixtures that ''work'' where they already are and don't bother changing them.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: carl9368 on June 19, 2013, 10:24:45 PM
I choose where and when I work nationwide

I now know when i will be working in cardiff  and southampton :-)
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: Lambert and Payne on June 20, 2013, 02:49:00 PM
Spurs last Premier League fixture will be £50 a ticket, can't see us taking many there considering we have Wembley the week after! :D
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Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on June 20, 2013, 02:51:40 PM
Spurs last Premier League fixture will be £50 a ticket, can't see us taking many there

At that price, the club should tell them we won't be asking for any tickets.
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Post by: Lambert and Payne on June 20, 2013, 03:21:17 PM
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Away Fans:
South Stand Upper Tier: Adults £54 (A), £41 (B), £37 (C)
South Stand Lower Tier: Adults £48 (A), £37 (B), £32 (C)
Normally no concessions are made available to away fans, but check with your own Club first.

Category A matches: Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United and West Ham United

Category B matches: Aston Villa, Everton, Fulham, Newcastle United, Norwich City, QPR, Southampton and Sunderland.

Category C matches: Reading, Stoke City, Swansea City, West Bromwich Albion and Wigan Athletic.

Lets hope, with it being last game, it stays as a category B game.
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Post by: usav on June 20, 2013, 11:42:45 PM
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Away Fans:
South Stand Upper Tier: Adults £54 (A), £41 (B), £37 (C)
South Stand Lower Tier: Adults £48 (A), £37 (B), £32 (C)
Normally no concessions are made available to away fans, but check with your own Club first.

Category A matches: Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United and West Ham United

Category B matches: Aston Villa, Everton, Fulham, Newcastle United, Norwich City, QPR, Southampton and Sunderland.

Category C matches: Reading, Stoke City, Swansea City, West Bromwich Albion and Wigan Athletic.

Lets hope, with it being last game, it stays as a category B game.

Good to see we are still considered cat B.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: usav on June 20, 2013, 11:45:08 PM
How the f**k are we away again on first and last games of the season?
Shake the f**kin' bag a bit for f**kin' f**k's sake!

And f**kin' Arsenal!
2 million f**kin' quid a ticket to be ripped off left, right and f**kin' centre! (tho' coming away with the 3 points will be nice!)
And f**kin' Spuds away last game! F**k my old boots, who sorts this f**kin' wanky fixture list out, the North f**kin' London Mafia?
C**ts!

Other than that, seems fine. :-)
I'm actually offended that "wanky" was left uncensored in your post.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: cdbearsfan on June 21, 2013, 05:40:09 PM
Arsenal always go on a run of about ten successive victories at the end of the season, happy to get the Arsenal games out of the way relatively early. Liverpool will be without Suarez. Could've been worse.
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Post by: villa kicks on June 21, 2013, 06:44:18 PM
Arsenal will have Higuain Fabregas Fellaini and talk of Rooney and Nani will be a big test for Vilas defense
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: paulcomben on June 21, 2013, 07:26:49 PM
I choose where and when I work nationwide

I now know when i will be working in cardiff  and southampton :-)



Is your profession like those guys in Grosse Point Blank?
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: paulcomben on June 21, 2013, 07:28:01 PM
Arsenal will have Higuain Fabregas Fellaini and talk of Rooney and Nani will be a big test for Vilas defense

Will have? According to rumour, might have. Actually, won't have.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: carl9368 on June 21, 2013, 10:36:01 PM
I choose where and when I work nationwide

I now know when i will be working in cardiff  and southampton :-)



Is your profession like those guys in Grosse Point Blank?

If i tell you that ill have to kill you.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 21, 2013, 11:53:23 PM
Has anyone else done the BBC predictor thing? I already can't wait for the season to end

I have us going down on -224 points.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 21, 2013, 11:58:43 PM
Arsenal always go on a run of about ten successive victories at the end of the season

Yes, it is the Arsenal continuum.

Start of season, much talk of how they can really challenge this year, a good start, then an extended period of mediocrity where they get beaten at places like Stoke, Hull and Cardiff on account of it being raining and their fancy players not liking mud, a struggle to remain in the CL places, whingeing North London gimps moaning on 606 about Wenger, then they end the season with a ten match unbeaten run to scrape into fourth place on the last day, as Wenger punches the air with joy as they clinch the new first place.

i don't suppose "the Wigan of the Champions League places" is really usable any more now they've gone down, mind.

Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: ozzjim on June 22, 2013, 12:04:07 AM
Arsenal will have Higuain Fabregas Fellaini and talk of Rooney and Nani will be a big test for Vilas defense

None of whom have signed for them yet!
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: Damo70 on June 22, 2013, 01:22:45 PM
I can't remember the last time Arsenal got off to a flying start in the first few weeks of the season. I think they might get Higuain, but not the rest. How long does it actually take to do the BBC predictor at this point? I did it for the first time in February and then found myself doing it every few weeks until we were safe.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: midnite on June 22, 2013, 01:36:06 PM
Has anyone else done the BBC predictor thing? I already can't wait for the season to end

I have us going down on -224 points.

I had us winning on 102
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: Damo70 on June 22, 2013, 01:54:25 PM
Who's got a 'birthday game'? We are at home to Cardiff for mine. The last time we played on my birthday in 2008 I was supposed to watch my son play football for the first time in the morning and it got called off. Then in the afternoon I went and watched the Villa lose at home to Middlesbrough. Then afterwards my local had run out of my favourite lager when I got there. Then to round off my special day my favourite Indian was closed by the time I got there.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: OCD on June 22, 2013, 04:55:15 PM
I don't mind not having a game on my birthday this year - we went of the League Cup to Bradford in the last one.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 22, 2013, 04:59:34 PM
Closest to mine is Chelsea (h).
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: cdbearsfan on June 22, 2013, 05:01:24 PM
Closest to mine is Wigan away.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: eastie on June 22, 2013, 05:01:28 PM
The last time we beat Man U at home in the league was on my 30th birthday - and very enjoyable too!
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 22, 2013, 05:05:14 PM
If we're not in the bottom 3 by the end of August were doing well

The league table means absolutely fuck all in August
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: Clampy on June 22, 2013, 05:07:02 PM
If we're not in the bottom 3 by the end of August were doing well


The league table means absolutely fuck all in August

That's very true. Was'nt we top under TSM after a couple of games?
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: Ad@m on June 22, 2013, 07:48:44 PM
Does anyone know when the TV companies ruin the fixture list?
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: gervilla on June 22, 2013, 08:39:27 PM
I think Sky announce their fixtures on July 9th.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: villan from luton on June 22, 2013, 11:17:36 PM
We have tough start, but lets be strong, we wil lget draw at an Arsenal team containing rooney, higauin (sp), Fellani, Bale, fecking loads more and then beat the dirty red scouse mob.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: Clampy on June 23, 2013, 09:50:16 AM
We have tough start, but lets be strong, we wil lget draw at an Arsenal team containing rooney, higauin (sp), Fellani, Bale, fecking loads more and then beat the dirty red scouse mob.

Arsenal will be tough because it always is but i reckon we can beat Liverpool. Suarez will still be banned and Sturridge might not be fully fit after his injury.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: Damo70 on June 23, 2013, 09:53:53 AM
If we're not in the bottom 3 by the end of August were doing well

The league table means absolutely fuck all in August

What are the odds on hearing Joe Kinnear say that exact same thing before August is out?
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: silhillvilla on July 06, 2013, 11:12:30 AM
Am I right in thinking that after Aug 24th we have 3 full weeks without a game ? Possibly longer if TV move our sept 14 game to the Monday night? What a fucking joke!
Lambert will need to arrange at least 1 BCD friendly or the players will get rusty.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: Pete3206 on July 06, 2013, 11:35:50 AM
There is a League Cup fixture after the Liverpool game, but that's still over two weeks for the next game after that.
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Post by: SoccerHQ on July 06, 2013, 07:44:25 PM
Don't mind. After last year I can wait for Chelsea away.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: silhillvilla on July 07, 2013, 09:55:28 PM
Lambert I imagine will play fringe players in the league cup, the likes of Steer, Clark, Stevens , El Ahmadi etc.
Therefore the first teamers like Lowton, Westwood and Gabby will have a minimum 3 weeks without a game. I think a friendly will be needed.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: villan from luton on July 07, 2013, 10:01:37 PM
I am pist off as 50th birthday is 16 November, a saturday and a fecking free weekend :-(
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Post by: TheSandman on July 08, 2013, 02:23:55 PM
But at least you get to bask in the warm glow of sharing a birthday with me and Mustapha Hadji.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: tom jennings III on July 08, 2013, 04:48:57 PM
When do Sky/BT announce the TV games/fixture changes for the start of the season? Anyone think we'll be moved to Sunday?
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Post by: Chico Hamilton III on July 08, 2013, 04:50:57 PM
Anyone know when tickets are likely to be available for Arsenal?

Kingthing??
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: eastie on July 08, 2013, 04:52:52 PM
When do Sky/BT announce the TV games/fixture changes for the start of the season? Anyone think we'll be moved to Sunday?

I believe they are announced tomorrow or Wednesday.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: UK Redsox on July 24, 2013, 10:37:41 AM
The date for the Chelsea game still hasn't been decided

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/10198583/Premier-League-set-to-rule-on-Chelseas-European-Super-Cup-fixture-swap-with-Aston-Villa.html

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Chelsea have offered Villa a proposal to bring their visit to Stamford Bridge forward to August 21, as the date of the original game clashes with their Uefa Super Cup meeting with Bayern Munich nine days later.
Mourinho is keen to stage the home game in the first midweek of the forthcoming season, three days after their curtain-raiser against Hull City, but Villa are understood to have blocked the move.

Chelsea travel to Old Trafford on August 26 and could have already secured six points by that stage but Paul Lambert's team kick off their season away at Arsenal and then would have to face Chelsea on Wednesday, followed by a home game against Liverpool the following weekend and have asked the Premier League to consider an alternative date.

Villa would ideally like the date to be in September because if their trip to Chelsea was cancelled they would not play again for another three weeks, when they face Newcastle on the 14th.
The Premier League are dealing with the matter and will make the final decision, with confirmation expected in the next few days.

Bloody upstarts like Aston Villa and the Premier League sabotaging Chelsea's chances of European glory.
Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: Ad@m on July 24, 2013, 01:10:52 PM
I genuinely hope the Premier League support us in telling Chelski to fuck off as that would be a horrific start to the season.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 24, 2013, 01:13:02 PM
I genuinely hope the Premier League support us in telling Chelski to fuck off as that would be a horrific start to the season.

I have a sneaky suspicion which the Premier League will choose to help out of us and Chavski.
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Post by: cdbearsfan on July 24, 2013, 05:28:41 PM
There is a free midweek after the Chelsea game for clubs that are in Europe (as they don't have to play in the League Cup Second Round). Why didn't they just arrange it so Chelsea were playing one of them that week?

I know Sky wouldn't be happy to miss out on the chance to show Chelsea v Man U/Arsenal, etc, but surely they could live without televising Chelsea v Swansea?
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Post by: SoccerHQ on July 24, 2013, 06:34:33 PM
Yeah I really don't want Chelsea away straight after Arsenal, our goal difference would be knackered for the season after two games!
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Post by: eamonn on July 25, 2013, 12:58:03 AM
Keep the fuckers away til Jose's second honeymoon has ended. I'm surrounded by the glory-hunters here in SW10, would rather never play them again.
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Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on July 25, 2013, 03:49:41 PM
From the O/S
Due to Chelsea's participation in the Uefa Super Cup, the club's Barclays Premier League fixture versus Chelsea at Stamford Bridge has been rescheduled for Wednesday, August 21, kick-off 7.45pm.
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Post by: UK Redsox on September 18, 2013, 09:56:43 AM
Do we know when Sky/BT pick their January games ?

I was looking to book a few days in York over New Year and pop up to Sunderland for the game.

I know that its not a glamourous fixture for TV but I suppose that it could get moved.
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Post by: SoccerHQ on September 18, 2013, 07:41:43 PM
Famous last words Red Sox but I reckon you'll be o.k with that game.

NYD is on a Wednesday this year isn't it? So no chance of games being moved to the Thursday as the FA cup is the following weekend.
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Post by: purpletrousers on September 18, 2013, 08:10:49 PM
Do we know when Sky/BT pick their January games ?

I was looking to book a few days in York over New Year and pop up to Sunderland for the game.

I know that its not a glamourous fixture for TV but I suppose that it could get moved.

I've been wondering similar. Which fixtures are fixed? (which is the next that could be shifted?)
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Title: Re: Fixtures 2013-14 - do not post the full list.
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 18, 2013, 08:17:24 PM
Usually end of October/start of November from memory for the new year TV picks.
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