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Title: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on December 04, 2011, 07:58:06 PM
0-0

A point!
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: luke25 on December 04, 2011, 07:59:26 PM
Yep 0-0
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on December 04, 2011, 07:59:52 PM
1-0
Late Bent Winner
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on December 04, 2011, 08:00:02 PM
No idea what's going to happen, other than it'll be dull anti-football from the players in claret and blue.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SashasGrandad on December 04, 2011, 08:00:25 PM
0-0 sounds about right.

Is Cahill suspended after red card yesterday?
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Karlos96 on December 04, 2011, 08:00:26 PM
2-1 Bolton
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 04, 2011, 08:01:04 PM
We really need to win this as it's the the most winnable of our next 5.

Sadly I think it will be 1-1.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: rutski on December 04, 2011, 08:05:09 PM
staggering back to the hotel adjoining the ground, perhaps a curry if the bolton lasses havent bit! a decent nights sleep and a bad head in the morning followed by a long journey home with a stop at sandbach for a piddle!
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: taylorsworkrate on December 04, 2011, 08:08:23 PM
Bolton are a very very poor side.

0-0
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Eigentor on December 04, 2011, 08:12:37 PM
Most likely it will be a carbon copy of the match against Swansea.

0-0.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villanation on December 04, 2011, 08:28:08 PM
Bolton, for me this has a home win written all over it and they will fancy Villa as bad as Bolton are.

Bolton 3-1
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard on December 04, 2011, 08:30:02 PM
1-1 as think we will finally score.................who knows what midfield combo our so called manager will come up with this time, personally I'd give Ireland a go probably with Petrov and Delph (Herd looks like a defender to me the more I see of him)
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: paulcomben on December 04, 2011, 08:33:31 PM
0-0 sounds about right.

Is Cahill suspended after red card yesterday?


Likely to be rescinded, given it was an outrage esp comparing what happened with Luiz 2.5 hours earlier.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: swiss1968 on December 04, 2011, 08:41:02 PM
At least the Bee Hive will be open this season ,1-1.Probably the only highlight.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: steffo on December 04, 2011, 08:44:15 PM
Strange this one....

Last year and for those anti-Houlier's - our defence that day was ....

Baker, Young, Clark, Walker.

It wasn't them losing the game but Downing and Young and Bent missing sitters to win the game.

Hopefully 0-0
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on December 04, 2011, 08:58:32 PM
A Grim 0-0
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on December 04, 2011, 08:59:43 PM
They stuck 5 past Stoke a couple of weeks ago and they'll see us as an opportunity to start wriggling away from the dead men. Think Cahill will be suspended and Wheater's already out so they may be vulnerable at the back. We lost to their reserves at VP and I think we'll lose here too - 3-1 with Davies, Eagles and NRC scoring theirs, Gabby for us, as our relentless march to a relegation battle moves on apace.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: wombat on December 04, 2011, 09:09:51 PM
Aston Villa 0

Sod knows what Bolton will score.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 04, 2011, 09:14:17 PM
*Sigh*

Aston Villa win 0 (0%)
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on December 04, 2011, 09:19:17 PM
                 Guzan

Cuellar    Clark   Dunne   Warnock

   Petrov      Herd        Delph

Delfouneso   Bent    Agbonlahor

0-0 still as it doesn't matter what combination of players we use they will be sent out with negative thoughts in their heads and no discernible tactics from training!
                     
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: timeoutbigbar on December 04, 2011, 10:02:39 PM
2-0 to us.  Gabby and Dunne.  Bolton are poor and we've got to win away from home at some point, its the law of averages.  Well, thats my interpretation of it anyway!
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Left Side on December 04, 2011, 10:06:25 PM
Bore draw!
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on December 04, 2011, 10:07:14 PM
God this was a depressing game last season.  Should have won by 5 goals but somehow managed to stuff it up in the last 10 minutes.  We'll get a point this time. 1-1.

Fortunately I won't be going either as I'm having a new Fridge Freezer delivered and I can honestly say I'm more excited about that than what my happen at the Reebok on Saturday.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Barca 2011 on December 04, 2011, 10:08:48 PM
Hope for a 2-1 win, think we will set up for a 0-0,
and probably get it!!
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on December 04, 2011, 10:18:03 PM
2-1, Bent and Albrighton with the goals, I really fancy us here as they've been poor this season and it looks like they'll be without their star centre-half, lest Cahil's red card gets rescinded.

If he plays I guarantee he'll score a bicey.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on December 04, 2011, 11:23:22 PM
1-0 Bolton
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Compass on December 04, 2011, 11:43:27 PM
I expect us to score at least. We've been goal less for 3 games now and that's unacceptable considering we have one of the best strike forces in the Premier League. I don't wanna see it happen the fourth time.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on December 04, 2011, 11:55:11 PM
1-0 Bolton             Klasnic
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: unclefabio on December 05, 2011, 12:17:28 AM
Bolton have conceded more than any other team in the league this season. Cahill might miss the game via suspension too.

I'll say 1-1.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaSpen on December 05, 2011, 12:43:36 AM
I always seem to lean towards a 0-0 these days but nothing about this fixture gives me reason to go with anything else.

0-0.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: midnite on December 05, 2011, 12:43:58 AM
1-0 home win for me I'm afraid. Can't see us getting anything from this one
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Fergal on December 05, 2011, 03:51:21 AM
If it were possible we would finish up losing Bolton 0 Villa -1
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on December 05, 2011, 07:13:04 AM
I'd like to see a genuine 2 up front.  We might sore a goal then. 
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on December 05, 2011, 09:00:14 AM
I just have no optimism left - cannot see us winning any game soon
2-0 Bolton
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Nirog72 on December 05, 2011, 09:08:30 AM
Bolton 2 Villa 0
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Greg N'Ash on December 05, 2011, 09:18:57 AM
Can't really afford to lose this one given the table. i'd be estatic if we got any more than a draw. 2-2.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on December 05, 2011, 09:38:45 AM
I think we'll actually win. I'd like to see 4-4-2

Any news on Given?

Given (Guzan)
Hutton Collins Dunne Warnock
Albrighton Petrov Herd Bannan
Agbonlahor Bent


I actually can't stand to type most of those names.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TheBarneyArmy on December 05, 2011, 09:44:58 AM
0-0 and Gabby subbed at half time for making too many runs over the half way line.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on December 05, 2011, 09:57:11 AM
I will also go 0-0 just can't see us scoring.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rick_avfc on December 05, 2011, 10:03:18 AM
Guys, please be a bit more optimistic!!  Im going for 0-4 to villa with Heskey scoring all 4 of them!  :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on December 05, 2011, 10:10:21 AM
To me this is a must win. If we don't I can see us losing the next 4 after that and McLeish being out of a job by the new year.

I suspect we'll draw 1-1 with two attempts on goal. Maybe they'll score an own goal for us.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TimTheVillain on December 05, 2011, 10:28:55 AM
1-1

They outplayed us in the League Cup, that's how good they we are.

Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on December 05, 2011, 11:06:23 AM
1-1
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on December 05, 2011, 11:22:30 AM
4-1 Villa.

What?
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rick_avfc on December 05, 2011, 11:25:22 AM
realistically, I think it will be either a loss or a draw.  Bolton will probably play with more passion than us due to their league position.  Ok, we stepped it up a gear in the last 20/30 mins against utd but we were still very poor.  the highlight for me was seeing an Emule Heskey shot  from about 20yards out go for a throw in! WTF!?!?
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mark H on December 05, 2011, 11:30:44 AM
I would not back us to beat Tamworth at the moment - so I have gone for a loss hoping they can prove me wrong
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on December 05, 2011, 11:35:15 AM
I think we will scrape a point.  Then no points until Swansea.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on December 05, 2011, 12:21:37 PM
I think a win here would give rise to the prospect of taking something from the Liverpool game.

It was interesting to see momentum twist in the Wolves game yesterday. From being on the brink of having the game put beyond them with Larsson's penalty, they managed to capitalise on the lift of saving the spot kick, to go on and win the game.

We're desperate for a confidence boost and there are few places more inviting than Bolton, save Blackburn or Wigan, at the moment.

I think we have the ability to beat them and we were robbed last time out.

A Villa win, 3-1, and the first away victory of the season to raise heads and get us back in the much coveted 8th spot.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on December 05, 2011, 12:47:09 PM
I have never seen us lose when I've gone to an away match*, and I'm pleased (???) to say I'm going this weekend.

1-2 (Bent & Gabby)

*This may be something to do with the teams we've played against in those away fixtures: (in no particular order) Coventry, Middlesbrough, Nottingham Forest, Everton, Derby, West Ham & Sheffield Wednesday
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Vanilla on December 05, 2011, 02:42:39 PM
We'll battle for a 0-0.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on December 05, 2011, 03:26:50 PM
Right, total change of plan, tactics and approach for this one.


Guzan

Herd
Clark
Dunne
Warnock

Albrighton
Bannan
Petrov
N'Zogbia

Agbonlahor
Bent

That's what I'd pick. 4-4-2. Let's press high up the pitch. Let's get the ball wide. Let's get service to Bent. Let's try and get Gabby in behind with a few balls in behind their centre backs. Let's get Herd and Warnock hitting their wingers early to stop the balls coming in the box. Let's get Jenas arriving late in the box....

Easy, isn't it?
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: andrew08 on December 05, 2011, 03:40:15 PM
I have never seen us lose when I've gone to an away match*, and I'm pleased (???) to say I'm going this weekend.

1-2 (Bent & Gabby)

*This may be something to do with the teams we've played against in those away fixtures: (in no particular order) Coventry, Middlesbrough, Nottingham Forest, Everton, Derby, West Ham & Sheffield Wednesday

I'm on a bit of a roll as well for not seeing us lose away (going to backfire on me I know, so touch wood etcl), my criteria is don't bother to go against any team from Manchester or when we're on telly. Bolton here I come.

3-0 Hutton, Warnock and Heskey !
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Irreverent ad on December 05, 2011, 04:14:45 PM
A lot of Bolton fans up here are worried as both Wheater and Cahill will be suspended. So they fear for shipping goals.

As we don't score many I will go 2-1 Villa
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on December 05, 2011, 04:34:25 PM
If I was putting money on it, I'd say 0-0 as that's the most likely result.  But we're due a goal or two and they have players missing at the back, so I've gone for a Villa win.

1-2 (Bent & Gabby) 
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on December 05, 2011, 05:40:49 PM
A lot of Bolton fans up here are worried as both Wheater and Cahill will be suspended.

Bolton are appealing Cahills red
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: luke25 on December 05, 2011, 06:12:00 PM
Right, total change of plan, tactics and approach for this one.


Guzan

Herd
Clark
Dunne
Warnock

Albrighton
Bannan
Petrov
N'Zogbia

Agbonlahor
Bent

That's what I'd pick. 4-4-2. Let's press high up the pitch. Let's get the ball wide. Let's get service to Bent. Let's try and get Gabby in behind with a few balls in behind their centre backs. Let's get Herd and Warnock hitting their wingers early to stop the balls coming in the box. Let's get Jenas arriving late in the box....

Easy, isn't it?
Jenas must be arriving extremely late in the box judging by your team ;-)
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dan England on December 05, 2011, 06:42:03 PM
3-0 Bolton and Mcleish sacked on Monday. Unfortunately I can see one of them happening and not the other bet you can't guess which...
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: l_mckay on December 05, 2011, 08:17:21 PM
another shit display and another defeat im afraid
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on December 05, 2011, 10:28:54 PM
We'll get at least a point but it won't be pretty or enjoyable.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on December 05, 2011, 10:34:28 PM
If Wheater and Cahill are both out we should be all out attack.

They are the only side in worse form than us at the moment, so we must be positive.

1-1 draw, and an insipid display.

What is the lowest we could be if we lose and others win this weekend? Could be 9th to 16th in an afternoon? The teams around us seem to have done ok, with Fulham having the audacity to beat Liverpool tonight (trying to beat a top club, we must ignore that nonsense....)
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 05, 2011, 11:28:46 PM
This is a nailed-on draw.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on December 05, 2011, 11:39:58 PM
This is a nailed-on draw.

...for 90 mins, then Bolton to win it in the 8th minute of stoppage time. 
Bolton 1 - Crisis Club Aston Villa 0
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 05, 2011, 11:46:24 PM
The thing is, a draw will only be marginally less damaging for him than a loss.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Greg N'Ash on December 05, 2011, 11:53:37 PM
Now paulie, a draw at bolton ain't bad at the best of times. Keep it in perspective
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on December 06, 2011, 08:21:17 AM
The thing is, a draw will only be marginally less damaging for him than a loss.

In order of importance for the Ginger wanker

1/ Dont lose - do everything to not concede a goal
2/ Draw - much better than a loss and a good result in the wonderful prem (irrespective of the opposition or their form - tosser)
3/ Steal a win - do all the above and then hope you get lucky and on the odd occasion we get in their half we nick a goal then defend for our lives

Utter utter dross 
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on December 06, 2011, 09:46:37 AM
Surely a bit of a shake up of the side need to be had too though this weekend. Clark and Cuellar into the back four for Warnock and Collins for me, with Herd, Petrov, Albrighton and NZogbia a propper 4 in midfield and Bent/ Gabby up top. Bannan can replace either of the central midfielders throughout the game.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JJ-AV on December 06, 2011, 09:50:09 AM
I reckon we'll win. We're shite but not as shite as them.

Bent and Albrighton, 2-1.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on December 06, 2011, 10:47:18 AM
Big Brad to save a pen.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: andyh on December 06, 2011, 11:44:54 AM
The thing is, a draw will only be marginally less damaging for him than a loss.

In order of importance for the Ginger wanker

1/ Dont lose - do everything to not concede a goal
2/ Draw - much better than a loss and a good result in the wonderful prem (irrespective of the opposition or their form - tosser)
3/ Steal a win - do all the above and then hope you get lucky and on the odd occasion we get in their half we nick a goal then defend for our lives

Utter utter dross 
you have missed 2a.
Once a goal is conceded, then defend so as to lose by as few as possible.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on December 06, 2011, 11:47:06 AM
Drop Collins for Clark and we may get something, I feel. If Eck really wants us to keep the ball he has to a) make sure the keeper knows that him having the ball does not mean it has to go long and b) tell the defenders to give the keeper an option, tell the midfielders to give defenders and keeper an option, and drop Collins because he's never going to learn that.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Newquay_AVFC on December 06, 2011, 11:49:00 AM
3-0. Bent x3.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on December 06, 2011, 11:59:11 AM
This is a nailed-on draw.

...for 90 mins, then Bolton to win it in the 8th minute of stoppage time. 
Bolton 1 - Crisis Club Aston Villa 0

If we're a crisis club then what does that make Bolton?
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on December 06, 2011, 12:08:24 PM
There's no way Collins will be dropped. Or Hutton. Or Warnock.

Same back 4 as it's ever been unless one gets injured/sent off.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pedro25 on December 06, 2011, 12:59:27 PM
Clark and Dunne are both better as the left sided centre half so I'd have Cuellar in ahead of Collins, and maybe Clark over Warnock, unlikely to happen though.  If Jenas is out I'd like to see Ireland given another chance over Heskey, again unlikely though.  N'Zog should probably go back in for Albrighton too and Petrov or Delph for Herd.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on December 06, 2011, 02:18:34 PM
I'd like to see Carlos at centre half as well. He's never really had a proper run in the team there.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on December 06, 2011, 02:18:36 PM
I have a feeling we'll lose.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rick_avfc on December 06, 2011, 04:10:14 PM
Gary Cahill has won his appeal and will be playing against us this weekend.  Great!  looks like he might bag another 2 against us
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 06, 2011, 04:16:23 PM
Doesn't Cahill usually play shit against us?
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on December 06, 2011, 04:17:46 PM
Doesn't Cahill usually play shit against us?
Didn't he get 2 goals against us at their place last season ?
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rick_avfc on December 06, 2011, 04:19:14 PM
Doesn't Cahill usually play shit against us?
Didn't he get 2 goals against us at their place last season ?

He sure did!
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 06, 2011, 04:23:57 PM
Bollocks, I forgot that.

Nothing to see here, carry on.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on December 06, 2011, 04:31:48 PM
He usually scores but has a crap game defensively.

Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Vanilla on December 06, 2011, 05:36:42 PM
He usually scores but has a crap game defensively.

Defensively he can get his pipe and slippers out at the weekend.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pedro25 on December 06, 2011, 08:11:09 PM
Will Herd be fit?
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on December 06, 2011, 09:23:47 PM
Bolton have a truly dire home record, if we lose this one I will be far more pissed off than by a poor showing against Manu (I've seen dozens of those before, it's nothing new).
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brian green on December 06, 2011, 10:04:12 PM
I think we will win it.   Bent hat trick.   Heskey to keep a clean sheet on his goalkeeping debut.   Collins to play with stitches in his head where the manager hit him on the head with the Bodymoor Heath pool table.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on December 06, 2011, 10:06:31 PM
Win.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lobsterboy on December 07, 2011, 09:45:00 AM
Win!

No real rationale behind my choice other than I believe Bolton to be worse than us and despite the dearth of chances created we are technically due a win!

I'll go for 2-0 with Bent and Petrov scoring

Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rick_avfc on December 07, 2011, 10:59:03 AM
Will Herd be fit?

According to Eck, he has returned to full training so yep, im guessing he will be fit for the game
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: markeeeebeeee2005 on December 07, 2011, 11:27:13 AM
2-1 Villa win.

We will score our 2 goals from Bent and Gabby nice and early. They will score just before half time, and we will defend from our six yard line (successfully this time) for the whole of the second half. It will look more like rugby than football, but Villa will take the 3 points.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on December 07, 2011, 01:33:33 PM
Id go with
------------Guzan
herd, cuellar, dunne, warnock
------ireland, clark
nzogbia, petrov, albrighton
------------gabby-------------

was all for putting clark centre half but realised we have few options in midfield.

id say mcleish with go for
guzan
hutton, collins, dunne, warnock
bannan, herd, petrov, nzogbia
gabby, bent

either way I dont think we will be beaten. 1-1.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Situation on December 07, 2011, 04:29:16 PM
Another poor performance against a team that isn't doing well in the league resulting in a draw because McLeish doesn't have the backbone to win games. It will be a similar game to Swansea, didn't go after a team for the taking... or even worse, we'll lose.

How fun...
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: manic-road on December 07, 2011, 04:34:50 PM
I've gone for a 1-1. Gabby to score, could well be one of the dullest games of the season.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Iago on December 07, 2011, 04:48:45 PM
I think Bolton will win this game 3-1.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: preston28 on December 07, 2011, 07:30:33 PM
I'm going to this one. I'm going for a dull draw..............
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: gervilla on December 07, 2011, 07:40:23 PM
2-1 to Bolton.
Gabby for us,  Cahill and NRC for them.
Much ranting on here Saturday night.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: paulcomben on December 07, 2011, 09:52:53 PM
Man Utd 1 Crystal Palace 2; Villa 0 Man Utd 1; Basel 2 Man Utd 1. Missed opportunity for weak-willed Fergie-worshipping manager.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Merv on December 08, 2011, 10:13:58 AM
In between laughing at Man Utd last night, I gave our line-up some thought. For the first time this season, I think I'd go with 4-4-2.

Why? Because I don't think playing three midfielders has helped our possession and ball retention one bit, and I think, against Bolton, we should revert to basics and play to the strengths of the players we have. Field two wingers, get the ball to them, get some decent service in to our two strongest assets, the strikers. Playing Albrighton wide right should keep Chris Eagles occupied too. He can be a handful.

This formation might also allow us to start a game on the front foot for once. Get at Bolton; they're low on confidence right now and we need to be positive from kick-off.

So, I'd go:

                           Guzan

Cuellar        Dunne        Clark       Warnock

Albrighton    Herd          Petrov     N'Zogbia

                   Bent          Gabby

Subs: Marshall, Hutton, Collins, Delph, Bannan, Ireland, Weimann.

Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on December 08, 2011, 03:02:45 PM
I'd take a draw right now
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TimTheVillain on December 08, 2011, 03:13:15 PM
This dreadful Bolton team outplayed at VP in the League Cup !

I'll go for 1-2 Bolton.

Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Vanilla on December 08, 2011, 04:10:01 PM
This dreadful Bolton team outplayed at VP in the League Cup !

I'll go for 1-2 Bolton.

It was dreadful Bolton team that had even rested players.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Iago on December 08, 2011, 06:49:34 PM
I am hoping we can get all the points. Prove me wrong AM.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: steamer on December 08, 2011, 06:56:22 PM
only premier game not to be shown on the T.V here, thank Heaven.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 08, 2011, 07:00:12 PM
I am hoping we can get all the points. Prove me wrong AM.

So you want us to win but want AM to prove you wrong so we don't win?  ???
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Iago on December 08, 2011, 07:03:56 PM
I am hoping we can get all the points. Prove me wrong AM.

So you want us to win but want AM to prove you wrong so we don't win?  ???
I do not believe we will win this game, I have Bolton for the victory. I want us to win.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villanation on December 08, 2011, 07:25:29 PM
You have to say this is a must win, after this we don't surface until Swansea, lose this as in my opinion we will and its head for the lifeboats and hope we get rescued in time for Swansea.

By rescued I mean change.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on December 09, 2011, 12:09:22 AM
Im still shocked about the Jenas deal .  my goldfish would have made sure there was a clause in it with an injury prone player .     17-0 to Bolton please , Mcthick to go , Faulkner to go with him and Randy , please wake the f**k up . 

whats happened to us ?  ;(
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VancouverLion on December 09, 2011, 02:30:52 AM
1-1
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Malandro on December 09, 2011, 05:42:13 AM
I'm suddenly more hopeful after Mcleish revealed we are trying to copy Holland's footballing style.
Heskey is a perfect fit for what he described as "fluid football"
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on December 09, 2011, 07:27:12 AM
I'm suddenly more hopeful after Mcleish revealed we are trying to copy Holland's footballing style.
Heskey is a perfect fit for what he described as "fluid football"


Did Houllier not refer to Heskey as Beckenbauer?

Closer we get to the game, the less confident I am am. Defeat. Followed by another week of calling for his head. I don't think, by the time he leaves, there will ever have been a more unpopular manager of Aston Villa.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on December 09, 2011, 07:38:00 AM
I'm suddenly more hopeful after Mcleish revealed we are trying to copy Holland's footballing style.
Heskey is a perfect fit for what he described as "fluid football"


Did Houllier not refer to Heskey as Beckenbauer?

Closer we get to the game, the less confident I am am. Defeat. Followed by another week of calling for his head. I don't think, by the time he leaves, there will ever have been a more unpopular manager of Aston Villa.

The Heskey comment was a joke.

To a lot of you, MON was just as unpopular, as was DOL, many were also slagging off Houllier. It's just the way some people operate. The only difference this time is that they turned after 18 minutes not 18 months.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Iago on December 09, 2011, 07:49:32 AM
Quote
Did Houllier not refer to Heskey as Beckenbauer?
Laughable. AM really does love this guy, I suppose they can recall their favourite Blues moments to each other.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on December 09, 2011, 07:56:43 AM
Quote
Did Houllier not refer to Heskey as Beckenbauer?
Laughable.

That's the normal reaction to jokes.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Iago on December 09, 2011, 08:19:23 AM
Heskey is one big joke thanks to AM.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on December 09, 2011, 09:37:39 AM
Im still shocked about the Jenas deal .  my goldfish would have made sure there was a clause in it with an injury prone player .     17-0 to Bolton please , Mcthick to go , Faulkner to go with him and Randy , please wake the f**k up . 

whats happened to us ?  ;(

The most shocking thing to me is the amount of people who actually want us to lose.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on December 09, 2011, 09:39:52 AM
I'm suddenly more hopeful after Mcleish revealed we are trying to copy Holland's footballing style.
Heskey is a perfect fit for what he described as "fluid football"


Did Houllier not refer to Heskey as Beckenbauer?

Closer we get to the game, the less confident I am am. Defeat. Followed by another week of calling for his head. I don't think, by the time he leaves, there will ever have been a more unpopular manager of Aston Villa.

The Heskey comment was a joke.

To a lot of you, MON was just as unpopular, as was DOL, many were also slagging off Houllier. It's just the way some people operate. The only difference this time is that they turned after 18 minutes not 18 months.

You'll do your ususal about turn when McLeish is gone.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on December 09, 2011, 09:51:34 AM
How can I do an about turn on saying it is too soon to judge him?

On the wider point, you're completely wrong. I didn't change my mind on Houllier, I said give him time and repeated earlier in the week that despite the problems, he had done enough to have another season (if he'd been well enough). I haven't changed my mind on MON and argued as much to the Sunderland an on that thread. DOL, I said as we'd finished mid table he didn't deserve to be sacked and I'd judge him again at the end of the season.

I can understand why people are reacting as they are but it doesn't change the basic premise that I think there is far too little evidence on which to make an informed decision. I know all the arguments the other way so there's no need to repeat them but that is what I believe and I'm not going to compromise that just to fit in.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on December 09, 2011, 09:53:41 AM
Im still shocked about the Jenas deal .  my goldfish would have made sure there was a clause in it with an injury prone player .     17-0 to Bolton please , Mcthick to go , Faulkner to go with him and Randy , please wake the f**k up . 

whats happened to us ?  ;(

The most shocking thing to me is the amount of people who actually want us to lose.


well I think 17-0   would be the final nail in AM's Villa coffin ;)



maybe I should not have put please ....     
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on December 09, 2011, 10:37:54 AM
Win 1-0 as i'm going (puts optamistic hat on)
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: rutski on December 09, 2011, 10:42:38 AM
Im still shocked about the Jenas deal .  my goldfish would have made sure there was a clause in it with an injury prone player .     17-0 to Bolton please , Mcthick to go , Faulkner to go with him and Randy , please wake the f**k up . 

whats happened to us ?  ;(

The most shocking thing to me is the amount of people who actually want us to lose.


well I think 17-0   would be the final nail in AM's Villa coffin ;)



maybe I should not have put please ....     
i never ever want us to lose!
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertommykN'iba on December 09, 2011, 10:43:36 AM
Think we'll either get our standard 2-2 draw or go up there and spank them, 4-0. All the McLeish haters will quickly turn and it'll all be the other way round.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Iago on December 09, 2011, 10:47:38 AM
Think we'll either get our standard 2-2 draw or go up there and spank them, 4-0. All the McLeish haters will quickly turn and it'll all be the other way round.
I hope so.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on December 09, 2011, 11:10:13 AM
Don't forget that Bolton have the world class Nigel Reo-Coker in their side. He will boss the game and score a hat-trick.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on December 09, 2011, 11:39:33 AM
Don't forget that Bolton have the world class Nigel Reo-Coker in their side. He will boss the game and score a hat-trick.
I think NRC is injured
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on December 09, 2011, 12:15:43 PM
Don't forget that Bolton have the world class Nigel Reo-Coker in their side. He will boss the game and score a hat-trick.
I think NRC is injured

Probably tripped over his own feet in training.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Karl Bridges on December 09, 2011, 01:00:04 PM
NRC is struggling with a hamstring injury, unlikely to play.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on December 09, 2011, 01:28:00 PM
Dull first half followed by action packed second. Villa triumphant, Bent hattrick plus a Dunne header. Villa 4-2.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villafirst on December 09, 2011, 01:41:44 PM
Bolton are a very very poor side.

0-0

The same 'poor' side that knocked us out the Carling Cup a few months ago? I think we'll lose 2-1...... McLeish out!!
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on December 09, 2011, 01:46:53 PM
Bolton are a very very poor side.

0-0

The same 'poor' side that knocked us out the Carling Cup a few months ago? I think we'll lose 2-1...... McLeish out!!

The table, their performances and results this season, and for most of the latter last, would suggest their toilet.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Kevin Dawson on December 09, 2011, 01:47:37 PM
A dull 1-1
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on December 09, 2011, 01:50:11 PM
Bolton are a very very poor side.

0-0

The same 'poor' side that knocked us out the Carling Cup a few months ago? I think we'll lose 2-1...... McLeish out!!

The table, their performances and results this season, and for most of the latter last, would suggest their toilet.

When we're being shit, as we were that night, anyone can beat us!

If we play well we'll get at least a draw as player for player we are the better team.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on December 09, 2011, 02:33:57 PM
At least there should be goals as neither can fucking defend
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on December 09, 2011, 02:50:41 PM
I'm suddenly more hopeful after Mcleish revealed we are trying to copy Holland's footballing style.
Heskey is a perfect fit for what he described as "fluid football"


Did Houllier not refer to Heskey as Beckenbauer?

Closer we get to the game, the less confident I am am. Defeat. Followed by another week of calling for his head. I don't think, by the time he leaves, there will ever have been a more unpopular manager of Aston Villa.

The Heskey comment was a joke.

To a lot of you, MON was just as unpopular, as was DOL, many were also slagging off Houllier. It's just the way some people operate. The only difference this time is that they turned after 18 minutes not 18 months.

In MoN's last season there were a number of polls about him and generally it was something like Sixty-Odd per cent in favour of him continuing as manager IIRC. Admittedly, a lot of people criticised him for what he did that they did not like but even some of them thought he should have stayed manager. I wonder if McLeish has an approval rating as strong as that? Even Houllier got around 20-30% on the polls on here, a level I doubt McLeish will match. As bad as things were under Ged they actually look quite good now. We've left the frying pan and are now in a far worse position in the fire.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on December 09, 2011, 03:01:10 PM
In MoN's last season there were a number of polls about him and generally it was something like Sixty-Odd per cent in favour of him continuing as manager IIRC. Admittedly, a lot of people criticised him for what he did that they did not like but even some of them thought he should have stayed manager. I wonder if McLeish has an approval rating as strong as that? Even Houllier got around 20-30% on the polls on here, a level I doubt McLeish will match. As bad as things were under Ged they actually look quite good now. We've left the frying pan and are now in a far worse position in the fire.

I think it largely depends on what the question is.  I'd be saying 'no' if asked was he doing a good job, but then I'd also give the same reply if asked should he be sacked.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on December 09, 2011, 03:06:04 PM
So 40% wanted him sacked, that's "a lot" isn't it, considering the relatively strong position we were in at the time? At that time, amongst those people, he was just as unpopular as McLeish is now. Similarly Houllier and DOL got the dog's abuse.

I'm beginning to detect a pattern.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: philthebar on December 09, 2011, 03:13:30 PM
Bore draw
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on December 09, 2011, 05:34:06 PM
I think Lawrenson has summed it up really:-

Aston Villa, meanwhile, have got to decide what they want to do. I look at them and it's exactly like watching Birmingham last season - they've made themselves compact, difficult to beat and don't commit too many men forward - but I feel they've got more attacking quality than that.

They've got to go for it a bit more - and if they did that they'd win more than they'd lose. In Gabriel Agbonlahor and Darren Bent they have two very good players, but they are just not getting the best out of them. They're a little bit conservative. I think Alex McLeish is aiming for mid-table - and that's probably exactly what they'll get, no more, no less.

Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Iago on December 09, 2011, 05:52:00 PM
I think Lawrenson has summed it up really:-

Aston Villa, meanwhile, have got to decide what they want to do. I look at them and it's exactly like watching Birmingham last season - they've made themselves compact, difficult to beat and don't commit too many men forward - but I feel they've got more attacking quality than that.

They've got to go for it a bit more - and if they did that they'd win more than they'd lose. In Gabriel Agbonlahor and Darren Bent they have two very good players, but they are just not getting the best out of them. They're a little bit conservative. I think Alex McLeish is aiming for mid-table - and that's probably exactly what they'll get, no more, no less.
You cannot just aim for mid-table, you need to go out to win in all games.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on December 09, 2011, 08:12:20 PM
You can never tell what team McLeish will play can you?

I reckon Emile will play, especially away from home. Worried about Guzan on set pieces.

So I reckon Herd and Petrov in the middle, N'Zogbia and Gabby wide, Heskey behind Bent, is what we'll play.

I really don't know what team I'd pick. I'd like to think we could play a fluid 433 with Bannan in the middle. But in reality we'd probably suffer from having noone to hit upfront and be totally inept as a result.

Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: bertlambshank on December 09, 2011, 08:19:54 PM
So 40% wanted him sacked, that's "a lot" isn't it, considering the relatively strong position we were in at the time? At that time, amongst those people, he was just as unpopular as McLeish is now. Similarly Houllier and DOL got the dog's abuse.

I'm beginning to detect a pattern.
Another thread turned into the the Chris smith show.How boring it is getting.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TopDeck113 on December 09, 2011, 08:29:44 PM
The good news is that without their first choice centre backs I reckon we'll score.

But then again, so will they.

1-1
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on December 09, 2011, 08:31:56 PM
We've got the players to win tomorrow, but not if we go out with the intention of trying to get a draw which is all AM seems to be interested in. I'm gonna repeat the obvious: it's great having quality like Gabby and Bent up front, but not if we simply keep hoofing the ball up to them so that Cahill and co can just keep sending it back. Our midfield is conspicuous by its emptiness.
Hate to say it but if I was Owen Coyle I'd see this game as a really good chance to kick-start a revival!
As an optimistic Villa fan I see it as a chance to get our first away win of the campaign.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on December 09, 2011, 08:35:24 PM
Two bald men fighting over a comb,0-0.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villanation on December 09, 2011, 08:37:25 PM
As before for me Gabby is the key, if he can get the service he can turn a game with consummate ease, not knocking Bent and not doubting his scoring ability but the way Villa are being set up he's surplus to requirement, don't get me wrong he great to have in the side but its becoming painful watching the bloke trying to score and then slowly drifting out of games, I would be more inclined to bring Gabby central and up front and max out the midfield which is generally where we are being over run in most games.

Its one of those issues again, all comes down to how AM sets it up.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Iago on December 09, 2011, 08:39:44 PM
So 40% wanted him sacked, that's "a lot" isn't it, considering the relatively strong position we were in at the time? At that time, amongst those people, he was just as unpopular as McLeish is now. Similarly Houllier and DOL got the dog's abuse.

I'm beginning to detect a pattern.
Another thread turned into the the Chris smith show.How boring it is getting.
Very tiresome indeed.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on December 09, 2011, 08:59:54 PM
So 40% wanted him sacked, that's "a lot" isn't it, considering the relatively strong position we were in at the time? At that time, amongst those people, he was just as unpopular as McLeish is now. Similarly Houllier and DOL got the dog's abuse.

I'm beginning to detect a pattern.
Another thread turned into the the Chris smith show.How boring it is getting.

What the fuck is wrong with that post? It's an indisputable fact that many people on here wanted MON out all the way through his last season, they then wanted Houllier out after a couple of months and they now want McLeish out.

You're acting like a bunch of bullies, because I don't fall into line and have an independent view you all think it is open season to have a pop at me.

Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Iago on December 09, 2011, 09:25:10 PM
Bannan must start and the team must be given access to attack. Feed the Bent and he will score.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: gervilla on December 09, 2011, 09:57:03 PM
So 40% wanted him sacked, that's "a lot" isn't it, considering the relatively strong position we were in at the time? At that time, amongst those people, he was just as unpopular as McLeish is now. Similarly Houllier and DOL got the dog's abuse.

I'm beginning to detect a pattern.
Another thread turned into the the Chris smith show.How boring it is getting.

What the fuck is wrong with that post? It's an indisputable fact that many people on here wanted MON out all the way through his last season, they then wanted Houllier out after a couple of months and they now want McLeish out.

You're acting like a bunch of bullies, because I don't fall into line and have an independent view you all think it is open season to have a pop at me.



Yup. That sounds like me, but I can't speak for anyone else. I have an aversion for watching shit football.
If the results are good then it's a bit more palatable. When the results are pants then the trigger finger is far more itchier. I thought MON has taken us as far as he could and I wanted someone to come in and take us on to the next level.
Egg on face. I still hate the fucker for what he did though.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on December 09, 2011, 10:04:44 PM
Chris, I wanted Mon out but not houllier. He had a long term vision. Mon and eck seem not too and play turgid football at home to boot.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: gervilla on December 09, 2011, 10:10:25 PM
After Sunderland at home I defiantly wanted him gone, No point pretending I didn't as I'm sure some of my vitriolic posts would be dragged up if I did. That wasn't the only time I wanted rid either.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on December 09, 2011, 10:11:17 PM
So 40% wanted him sacked, that's "a lot" isn't it, considering the relatively strong position we were in at the time? At that time, amongst those people, he was just as unpopular as McLeish is now. Similarly Houllier and DOL got the dog's abuse.

I'm beginning to detect a pattern.
Chris there are a lot of people who wanted him out because of his connection with the other lot, there were quite a few that were concerned by his track record and style of football. You have to admit the way he sets up the team and the style we play is mind numbingly dull and failing. The only arguement could be that with the resources he has available that he has no other choice. I am  not sure that holds much water.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on December 09, 2011, 11:13:25 PM
All these threads wouldn't turn into tedious Chris Vs The World if the rest of you equally tedious buggers didn't rise to the bait every single fucking time!
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 09, 2011, 11:13:44 PM
So 40% wanted him sacked, that's "a lot" isn't it, considering the relatively strong position we were in at the time? At that time, amongst those people, he was just as unpopular as McLeish is now. Similarly Houllier and DOL got the dog's abuse.

I'm beginning to detect a pattern.
Another thread turned into the the Chris smith show.How boring it is getting.
Very tiresome indeed.

But nowhere near as boring or tiresome as the way a handful of posters are turning every thread into the Everything is Shit show.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on December 09, 2011, 11:20:03 PM
Got a gut feeling we are going to win this 0-2 with Nzogbia scoring his first goal ........
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: taylorsworkrate on December 09, 2011, 11:22:28 PM
So 40% wanted him sacked, that's "a lot" isn't it, considering the relatively strong position we were in at the time? At that time, amongst those people, he was just as unpopular as McLeish is now. Similarly Houllier and DOL got the dog's abuse.

I'm beginning to detect a pattern.
Another thread turned into the the Chris smith show.How boring it is getting.
Very tiresome indeed.

But nowhere near as boring or tiresome as the way a handful of posters are turning every thread into the Everything is Shit show.

But nowhere near as boring or tiresome as listening to a coldplay album.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on December 10, 2011, 12:03:03 AM
So 40% wanted him sacked, that's "a lot" isn't it, considering the relatively strong position we were in at the time? At that time, amongst those people, he was just as unpopular as McLeish is now. Similarly Houllier and DOL got the dog's abuse.

I'm beginning to detect a pattern.
Another thread turned into the the Chris smith show.How boring it is getting.
Very tiresome indeed.

But nowhere near as boring or tiresome as the way a handful of posters are turning every thread into the Everything is Shit show.
it is pretty difficult to find much to be enthusiastic about, we are playing dreadfull football, there is a lack of enthusiasm both on and off the pitch, people are voting with thier feet and thier is no indication that anything is going to change any time soon.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on December 10, 2011, 01:17:14 AM
So 40% wanted him sacked, that's "a lot" isn't it, considering the relatively strong position we were in at the time? At that time, amongst those people, he was just as unpopular as McLeish is now. Similarly Houllier and DOL got the dog's abuse.

I'm beginning to detect a pattern.

Me too, Chris, me too. All that's missing is "breaking the three year cycle". (winky thang)

As for the match, I predict a Villa win, much to the disappointment of some on here. I hope we start with the same team as last week but with Petrov in for Jenas.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WirralVillan on December 10, 2011, 01:24:10 AM
Just seen the boys at the Worsley Marriott having a quite drink. All safely in bed by 11.30.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JD on December 10, 2011, 03:07:06 AM
Chris, I wanted Mon out but not houllier. He had a long term vision. Mon and eck seem not too and play turgid football at home to boot.
Same here Ozz, I would have liked to have seen Houllier have a preseason and a full season, but alas it was not to be. At least the football would have been better than it is at the moment. 
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: bertlambshank on December 10, 2011, 07:02:29 AM
So 40% wanted him sacked, that's "a lot" isn't it, considering the relatively strong position we were in at the time? At that time, amongst those people, he was just as unpopular as McLeish is now. Similarly Houllier and DOL got the dog's abuse.

I'm beginning to detect a pattern.
Another thread turned into the the Chris smith show.How boring it is getting.
Very tiresome indeed.

But nowhere near as boring or tiresome as the way a handful of posters are turning every thread into the Everything is Shit show.
This site wouldn't work without them.
This happens when fans are down,we turn on each other.
Things arn't nuclear just yet.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: picicata on December 10, 2011, 10:14:22 AM
McCLeish needs the win and he needs the team to play with some attacking intent. Lets hope he doesn't disappoint us this time.

A draw.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on December 10, 2011, 11:02:37 AM
So 40% wanted him sacked, that's "a lot" isn't it, considering the relatively strong position we were in at the time? At that time, amongst those people, he was just as unpopular as McLeish is now. Similarly Houllier and DOL got the dog's abuse.

I'm beginning to detect a pattern.
Another thread turned into the the Chris smith show.How boring it is getting.

What the fuck is wrong with that post? It's an indisputable fact that many people on here wanted MON out all the way through his last season, they then wanted Houllier out after a couple of months and they now want McLeish out.

You're acting like a bunch of bullies, because I don't fall into line and have an independent view you all think it is open season to have a pop at me.



You love it you slag.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Clark Five on December 10, 2011, 11:13:10 AM
I dread to think what would have been written if we had internet forums in the mid to late 80s when it was really crap.
I support McLeish and hope the players start to.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on December 10, 2011, 11:14:01 AM
McMinge urging the team on the OS to be more wild-minded: that'll be a red card for Mutton then.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villajk on December 10, 2011, 11:31:16 AM
On the train.  Optimism is creeping in.  I think we'll win 2-1
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on December 10, 2011, 11:38:11 AM
On the train.  Optimism is creeping in.  I think we'll win 2-1

Beer will do that to you.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on December 10, 2011, 11:41:15 AM
Right win today Villa please, and play well.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on December 10, 2011, 11:49:36 AM
                               Guzan

Hutton.    Collins.   Dunne.  Warnock

                    Petrov.    Herd
N'zogbia.                                Bannan
                   Bent.     Agbonlahor


Marshall, Clark, cuellar, Ireland, delph, albrighton, heskey

 
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: preston28 on December 10, 2011, 11:58:28 AM
On the train.  Optimism is creeping in.  I think we'll win 2-1

Beer will do that to you.

Hope you've bought some warm stuff - sleeting here already. Will be even colder at the Reebok!!
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt on December 10, 2011, 01:32:00 PM
I predict Jaaskelinen will be sat on a deckchair on the six yard line with a pack of cigars bored out of his brains after about 35 minutes laughing his head off at Emile hitting a shot out for a throw in.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ez on December 10, 2011, 02:05:53 PM
0-0
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Iago on December 10, 2011, 02:06:37 PM
Promising line up.
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on December 10, 2011, 02:22:03 PM
I predict Jaaskelinen will be sat on a deckchair on the six yard line with a pack of cigars bored out of his brains after about 35 minutes laughing his head off at Emile hitting a shot out for a throw in.

How much do you want to put on it?
Title: Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on December 11, 2011, 09:51:13 AM
On the train.  Optimism is creeping in.  I think we'll win 2-1

Marvellous, got the lottery numbers?
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