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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Rip Van We Go Again on May 04, 2011, 03:39:47 PM
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They are announcing the prices on Friday.
What do we reckon?
Same or an increase?
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Slight increase I reckon. Just a hunch.
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Price increase after this season , with gates down and team performance would be naive at best and stupid at worst.
Who renewing, I am not purely due to not enjoying the "match day experience" any more and cost of getting to the game now getting too expensive. I for one with be taking the late 4 for £40 offers which have appeared nearly every game this season and selecting when I go
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They will go up to reflect the VAT rise and possibly a little bit on top of that as well.
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I imagine they'll go slightly up, I think we'll lose a fair amount of season ticket holders next season even if they're reduced.
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I'll renew, but only if there's a really enticing "pay in instalments" offer.
I can't really afford to renew at this year's prices, but in several chunks it becomes more palatable.
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I'll renew, but to be honest, these days it's more for the social side of it.
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I'll renew, but only if there's a really enticing "pay in instalments" offer.
I can't really afford to renew at this year's prices, but in several chunks it becomes more palatable.
This for me aswell!
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I think the season tickets for 2011/12 will certainly plummet.
Factoring in poor football, jobless situation and people just getting fed up with it all.
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I left it till the last day last year and had Nicola Keys phone me up, I gave in to her charms. I think prices will be frozen or hope they will I see the next years kit will be out early too, still no new sponser anounced yet though.
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Renewing for the social side of it is the correct answer.
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Renewing for the social side of it is the correct answer.
It's sad really.
Might just as well go to the pub before and after.
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Renewing for the social side of it is the correct answer.
Sadly its true. I cant say I looked forward to Blackpool at home back in November.
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new manager, a few new players, rid of deadwood, new optimism, maybe better attendances ;D
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Even if they stayed the same price, I doubt I will be renewing after 20 + years of being a season ticket holder, i am very disenchanted with not only Villa but also the sport.
I will be picking and choosing my games and taking advantage of any cheap ticket deals, and I reckon there will be plenty, can honestly see us struggling to get 30k at some games next season, especially if we make a bad start to the season.
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I think there will be an increase.
I can't afford to renew anyway, which is a shame as I have had pretty awesome seats for the last two seasons. I said this last season though and ended up just bunging it on a credit card, which I haven't paid off yet. I can't do that again, and really shouldn't, but I may be talked into it. Im a mug really.
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I won't. Just no incentive too, especially with the match day offers etc through the season.
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I think after the season we have had they should lower prices instead of freezing or making them higher.
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I'm renewing what ever the price. I'm Villa till I die, not till it doesn't suit me.
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I'm renewing what ever the price. I'm Villa till I die, not till it doesn't suit me.
*swoon*
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Renewing for the social side of it is the correct answer.
Sadly its true. I cant say I looked forward to Blackpool at home back in November.
You were buzzing after Collins last-gasp winner though (winky fella).
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I am very ummy arry at the moment.
I have had once since 1983 - my 11 yr old son since he was 5 and my 12 yr old daughter the same.
If they stay the same - I will renew
If they increase slightly (and by that I mean adult less than 15-20 quid) I will moan like buggery all summer, say I am not, then no doubt give in on the last day of nenewal.
Anything more than that I will see as taking the pee and that will be it.
Dont give me this "Villa til I die crap.
How is this for a scenario - I am buying a small apartment in Spain. Two minutes walk away is a bar owned by a Villa fan from Perry Barr (used to own the Little Crown) and he shows EVERY Villa game live. Out of school holidays, do you know I can fly out Friday evening, hire a car, soak up sun of 20 degrees whilst UK whilst minus 10 - watch the Villa live in the bar whilst having a couple of drinks.
AND IT WOULD BE CHEAPER THAN ME GOING THE GAME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It isn't being a non fan - it's called using the thing between my head !
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I think there'll be a small increase but I'll still renew as I have the Premier League Barclaycard which is interest free for ST purchases.
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I will renew no matter what, i love everything about football on a saturday, i'm lost without it.
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I renew whatever.
Even in a poor season such as this there are other plastic cards in my wallet which have at various times given me more grief and worry than my season card.
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I've had a ST for 20 years, I this, I that blah blah.
I support Aston Villa, I love going to see my club and everything about it, of course it's cheaper to go the pub and watch it, but that's not supporting your club.
I seem to be hearing alot of people trying to justify themselves for not renewing, I have no problem with anyone, it's just the atmosphere has dropped dramatically the last few years and this has coincided with dropping attendances.
So if you can afford it and you are humming and harring, go and buy one. There is nothing better than a full Villa Park on song really getting begin the team.
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I am very ummy arry at the moment.
I have had once since 1983 - my 11 yr old son since he was 5 and my 12 yr old daughter the same.
If they stay the same - I will renew
If they increase slightly (and by that I mean adult less than 15-20 quid) I will moan like buggery all summer, say I am not, then no doubt give in on the last day of nenewal.
Anything more than that I will see as taking the pee and that will be it.
Dont give me this "Villa til I die crap.
How is this for a scenario - I am buying a small apartment in Spain. Two minutes walk away is a bar owned by a Villa fan from Perry Barr (used to own the Little Crown) and he shows EVERY Villa game live. Out of school holidays, do you know I can fly out Friday evening, hire a car, soak up sun of 20 degrees whilst UK whilst minus 10 - watch the Villa live in the bar whilst having a couple of drinks.
AND IT WOULD BE CHEAPER THAN ME GOING THE GAME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It isn't being a non fan - it's called using the thing between my head !
Taxi to airport, plane ticket, hire a car all cheaper than a ticket to a game?
Rubbish.
So I'll tell you the crap again, I'm villa till I die and I will always go support my team as long as I am able and can afford it.
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In the case of non-renewal, I call upon the oral testimony of McColgan, M. "It's not one thing, it's erverything."
If I don't renew, and it's not certain that I will, I wouldn't be able to give a single decent reason why, but I could give a hundred small ones, ranging from Habib Beye's wages to Running Commentary Man behind. Price and this season wouldn't get a mention at all.
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They will go up, I won't renew but that's cos I didn't have one this season. I'm unable to afford it anyway.
I will go when possible
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I am going to renew Villa till i die
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Er
How about this, done a few weeks ago when we were away at West Ham
Taxi to airport - er nowt -
However, it did cost me £10 to park my car at Airparks Garretts green - Friday - Sunday
Flights - Ryan Air - Bham to Alicante - £10 return - no taxes , no baggage fee (my clothes are there)
Car hire from Alicante £22 - paid for Smart car - upgraded to a Merc.
Petrol - negligable - only 25 minute drive - £5 most
Total cost of going Friday evening, spending a few hours in a nice bar, walking on a beach in 22 degrees on the morning, sitting watching the Villa in a bar with mellberg shirts, pics of Holte End , and full of Villa fans with a few San Miguels , spend a nice evening eating tapas, get up Sunday , go in the pool for a few hours , get ready, drive back to Airport , get home for around 9pm.
Cost £47
Cost of Villa game ST Holte Lower works out £23.50 a game , £1 to get in club , £5 to park car - very least £30
Away game at Man City - cost £100
Now, don't get me wrong - I am not saying the above to give the "I am considerably more richer than yow" speech.
What I am saying is, at the moment, I agree, there is nowt better than being on the Holte.
But put the price up much more than what it is - and are you telling me you wouldn't go for option B.
I am now 40 yrs old, I've done it, I remember having not missed a game, home , away , europe for 8 years, sitting crying my heart out on the M1 near Nottingham the day we played Sheff Wed away. My car broke down and I was sobbing coz I thought I was going to miss a game.
Sorry, but those days are gone for me - I have other things in life now as well !
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Shouldn't you factor in the cost of the apartment you're buying Paul?
I'm not criticising you by the way, getting away to the sun for a weekend sounds great, but if you hadn't spent £x on the place you wouldn't be able to do it. It would be like me claiming it will cost me nothing to watch the game on Saturday as my season ticket is paid for.
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Without going totally off the subject the cost to buy the apartment is paid for out of the money we used to go on holiday with anyway
Yeah - you are right.
And dont get me wrong, home games at least, at this point, I am 75% certain to be sitting in my seat on the Lower holte come August instead of La Plaza , but.
What I am getting at , it is not getting far from the point in time that I won't be - and if there is a significant increase come Friday, that could be sooner than I thought.
I think the prices will go up by 2.5% and they will blame the VAT increase and hide it that way - to be honest, I'll be peed off, but as I always have, I'll take that. But I reckon I wouldn't be far off if I said I reckon the majority of Villa fans would not renew if there was anything more than a 20 quid increase.
And lets face it - we should have a reduction - they cannot justify even freezing the prices.
reasons they have given in past - value for money - well the deals they offer is an argument for that one
It guarentees you a cup final ticket (probably) - well we all know the clubs thinking on that one dont we
It gives you 10% discount in the shop - however when I tried to use it I was told "non Nike items only" thus my shirt was full price
It gives you the same seat with your mates - BINGO - thats where they have us, coz they know we (and I include myself here) are so small minded that we hate the fact of someone elses fat butt being in "MY" seat.
ST's for most people I know are now "out of habit" rather than "coz I love it"
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Yeah but sitting in Spain is not supporting your club.
There is no comparisent to being at Villa and absorbing a great atsmosphere.
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Oh good we are playing Villaer than you today.
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And when was that then
The last great atmosphere I can remember down Villa Park was the Blackburn semi final - what was that , last January ?
And I can tell you exactly when the next one will be - Mid June - Take That !!
You aren't selling it really Shrek
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Yeah but sitting in Spain is not supporting your club.
Utter rubbish.
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Think the cost will go up slightly plus an extra bit for the VAT increase. My ST in K4 was £495 this season - I expect it to be around £520 next season.
I'm not working at the minute and I'm having to really drive down my spending, but I'll renew out of a) force of habit, and b) spending time with people I've sat with for years.
I'm getting more and more disillusioned with the way football is going and that view is starting to percolate down to the 'next generation' of fans. My eldest son - who had a season ticket since the age of 5 - now prefers to watch lower league games though he does come to Villa with me when he's back home. The bottom line is, though, I can't imagine sitting at home knowing Villa have a game at VP. Yet.
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Oh good we are playing Villaer than you today.
No, but if you'd rather watch on TV, that makes you a fan, rather than a supporter doesn't it?
@ holtepaul, you are using this dire experience as an example, if Villa Park was full every week the atmosphere would be alot better more often.
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Yeah but sitting in Spain is not supporting your club.
Utter rubbish.
No it's not.
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Why?
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And when was that then
The last great atmosphere I can remember down Villa Park was the Blackburn semi final - what was that , last January ?
And I can tell you exactly when the next one will be - Mid June - Take That !!
You aren't selling it really Shrek
Paul, if you don't want to re-new, then don't re-new. It really sounds to me like you don't want to. Just buy your Take That ticket instead.
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I've sat in Upper Holte since it was built, had season tickets way back to the 70's, and been a fan from the Docherty years.
But I'm not renewing.
There will still be a few home and away games which will attract me, but the days of just turning up because it's expected are over.
The money, the cynicism, the cheating, the corruption, the hypocrisy of the modern game have finally got to me.
Randy has done a fantastic job in rekindling the spirit in a new generation of fans, and I'm sure that the future is bright. It's just that the assumption that we will always stump up the cash no matter what, seems a little out of sync with the real world.
The "working-class" has already been priced out of most of the game, especially at top-level games. I know there are special offers, but once you lose a whole section of society as regular attenders, they are difficult to retrieve.
The Villa are my club, always will be, and are in my blood, but it's time to step away and take a breather.
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Why?
Some people can't afford to go to football, but going to sit in Spain every week instead of going to Villa Park is not supporting you club really is it?
I'm not trying to pick fights with anyone, I just want Villa Park full, hopefully bringing the great atmospheres back which can only be an encouragement to the players.
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Dont worry I have - only in the Millenium instead.
If you want the honest truth, no I don't, I will out of habit and still having enough of the Shrek in me. But it is out of habit, it is out of the ridiculous notion that one day we might actually win something and after watching utter tripe for the best part of 30 years I dont want to bloody miss it if we do.
But I will stand up and admit - if someone had said to me 10 yrs ago - miss the Villa this Saturday and I'll give you £1000 quid - I can honestly say I would have told them to stick it (and did in a way at the 2000 Cup final)
Ask me now to miss it for £50 - I'd take it.
Funnily enough it is Randy that has disheartened me through no fault of his own. For years upon years (and I bet I am not the only one here) I honestly thought it was Ellis that was keeping us from greatness, Every year I thought, yeah , we are crap now, but as soon as that geriatric old fart goes, we will be there challenging Man U.
That thought got me through the dark days of GT2 (especially when he said it as well !!), DOL and others
Then came Randy - and I honestly thought this was it. There was "that" speech from the Chief Exec at the time (cant remember the name) about the "Villa were champions of Europe and we will put them back there" or whatever the words were.
The "Proud History Bright Future" stuff - god it was great
I believed it - my enthusiasm was never higher, I was going around spouting to all and sundry how we were back. Basically doing what man City fans are doing now.
And here we are , 5 yrs on nearly, and we are in the exact same situation we were 5 yrs ago, players leaving us as they want silverware, us fighting relegation and the fans wanting blood.
But to me, it isn't just the present I am let down with, I have lost the dream for the future.
But yeah, I'll be there probably in August, but as I say , mainly now out of habit and the fact it is a way of bonding me, my kids with my 64 yr old dad - not because I love anyone who puts on the colours I love - coz to be honest, I hate a lot of them now and everything they stand for.
There you go - heartfelt and honest !
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Why?
Some people can't afford to go to football, but going to sit in Spain every week instead of going to Villa Park is not supporting you club really is it?
I'm not trying to pick fights with anyone, I just want Villa Park full, hopefully bringing the great atmospheres back which can only be an encouragement to the players.
Isn't it possible to support your club without going to all the matches?
Or without going to any, for that matter?
It's nice that the Villa are, seemingly, the most important thing in the world for you, but for the vast majority of people, that's not the case, and supporting the club has to take lots of forms so we can do all the other things we want / need to do.
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I can hardly afford to get to a game let alone buy a season ticket. As weekends are part of my normal working week I would have to take a day off, drive around 180 miles, pay for my families tickets, eat at least one meal out.
Heskey earns in a week what I earn in 3 years. It is obscene and just plain wrong, however if I had the funds I would be there every week.
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Will the prices go up? Almost certainly
Have we had a woeful season? Yup
Is football a depressingly money obsessed beast? Indeed
Will I renew for another 9 months of torment? Of course
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Why?
Some people can't afford to go to football, but going to sit in Spain every week instead of going to Villa Park is not supporting you club really is it?
I'm lucky enough to have a ST. However I also enjoy travelling. No matter where I go I still support the Villa the same way as when I sit in the Upper Holte. Whether sitting in front of a TV or waiting for text updates from my friends. Not everyone can attend games.
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Well guys my job is done, Holtepaul is now renewing, out of habit this time but hopefully out of passion next time.
Seriously though, Aston Villa isn't the centre of my universe, but it is my favourite hobby and I haven't lost any of my enthusiasm this season, I am naively convinced we have a chance every season of achieving something.
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I'm 38, had a season ticket for all bar one season since I was 16. I'll not be renewing.
It isn't as much Villa and in particular the owners I have a problem with as they've been brilliant. The problem I have is football. The likes of Beye, Heskey, Warnock, Dunne, Collins, Carew, and Stephen Ireland taking a fortune from this club and not giving a shit makes me want to spend my season ticket money on a golf membership next year.
Football is boring and predictable, the same teams finish where they do in the league every season pretty much, the same teams win the cups and our manager would rather see us finish 15th than try and win a cup.
I love Villa, and it will hurt like hell not going, but i'll pick the midweek games where it £10-£15 to get in as this is a more suitable price to pay.
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I'm renewing what ever the price. I'm Villa till I die, not till it doesn't suit me.
Most of those on here who say they will not / are thinking of not renewing will have said something similar at some point in the past, times change, circumstances change, other things take priority.
Please don't be judgemental or go all "better fan than yow" on them, watching football is a hobby, nothing more.
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I'm 38, had a season ticket for all bar one season since I was 16. I'll not be renewing.
It isn't as much Villa and in particular the owners I have a problem with as they've been brilliant. The problem I have is football. The likes of Beye, Heskey, Warnock, Dunne, Collins, Carew, and Stephen Ireland taking a fortune from this club and not giving a shit makes me want to spend my season ticket money on a golf membership next year.
Football is boring and predictable, the same teams finish where they do in the league every season pretty much, the same teams win the cups and our manager would rather see us finish 15th than try and win a cup.
I love Villa, and it will hurt like hell not going, but i'll pick the midweek games where it £10-£15 to get in as this is a more suitable price to pay.
I do the same
Fortunately I can afford a ST but due to the kick off times and dates it clashes with other things I like to do in my free time. I also think that barring probably 3 teams the standard of the alleged best league in the world is fucking rubbish.
Plus as already mentioned when I see shit players who don't give a toss earning more in a week than I do in 2 years it leaves a bitter taste.
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Slight increase I reckon. Just a hunch.
Hope not, it's not justified and not a good time to increase prices at all.
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I'm 38, had a season ticket for all bar one season since I was 16. I'll not be renewing.
It isn't as much Villa and in particular the owners I have a problem with as they've been brilliant. The problem I have is football. The likes of Beye, Heskey, Warnock, Dunne, Collins, Carew, and Stephen Ireland taking a fortune from this club and not giving a shit makes me want to spend my season ticket money on a golf membership next year.
Football is boring and predictable, the same teams finish where they do in the league every season pretty much, the same teams win the cups and our manager would rather see us finish 15th than try and win a cup.
I love Villa, and it will hurt like hell not going, but i'll pick the midweek games where it £10-£15 to get in as this is a more suitable price to pay.
Although I will be renewing, I find it very hard to argue with any of that.
Except the golf thing - I hate golf!
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Funnily enough it is Randy that has disheartened me through no fault of his own. For years upon years (and I bet I am not the only one here) I honestly thought it was Ellis that was keeping us from greatness, Every year I thought, yeah , we are crap now, but as soon as that geriatric old fart goes, we will be there challenging Man U.
That thought got me through the dark days of GT2 (especially when he said it as well !!), DOL and others
Then came Randy - and I honestly thought this was it. There was "that" speech from the Chief Exec at the time (cant remember the name) about the "Villa were champions of Europe and we will put them back there" or whatever the words were.
The "Proud History Bright Future" stuff - god it was great
I believed it - my enthusiasm was never higher, I was going around spouting to all and sundry how we were back. Basically doing what man City fans are doing now.
And here we are , 5 yrs on nearly, and we are in the exact same situation we were 5 yrs ago, players leaving us as they want silverware, us fighting relegation and the fans wanting blood.
But to me, it isn't just the present I am let down with, I have lost the dream for the future.
But yeah, I'll be there probably in August, but as I say , mainly now out of habit and the fact it is a way of bonding me, my kids with my 64 yr old dad - not because I love anyone who puts on the colours I love - coz to be honest, I hate a lot of them now and everything they stand for.
There you go - heartfelt and honest !
That is a terrific post and expresses my own feeling about the situation at Villa far, far better than I could have done myself.
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Let me say first of all that I will be renewing, I’ve always said the day I walk up the steps and see the pitch and don’t think ‘bring it on’ is the day that I stop attending game, however I am interested in whether the increased usage in pubs of the Greek satellites will have any real effect on both season tickets and matchday attendance? As football gets more and more expensive to attend, even if the ticket price doesn’t go up you can guarantee fuel / train tickets / bus tickets / food / drinks / programme will do the 2/3 hours in the pub option will become more attractive / affordable to many.
We might have picked a very bad year to have dropped the standard!!
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Of course I'm renewing. Watching Villa on TV simply does not compare to watching Villa live. Besides, watching Villa on the TV sends me mental.
Going back to holtepaul's post and his disillusionment with it all, would he prefer that Villa were now like ManU with a half empty ground before the end of a European cup semi final which they'd won so convincingly? The journey is much better than arriving, our motor has broken down but we'll be up and running again soon.
And another thing, sunshine gets boring after a while, going to the same Spanish bar does too, as do airports and everything associated with them. However, for me, the pub before and after the game and going to Villa Park with friends I can see myself never tiring off.
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I'm going to renew, but it's going to be tough. It's my last year of Uni. (providng I pass!) and I've kept it for the last two years, paid upfront.
If I can't get part-time work this Summer (noone needs a data inputter near the City centre do they?) I'll have to examine the installments option, and hope it falls inline with my loan payments next year.
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I pretty much loathe professional football, if I'm honest, I have done for years.
I won't be renewing because of the football, I'll be renewing for the mates/family thing that makes me who I am.
God; I hope and pray more than anyone that my beloved football club play with style and flair and entertain me and my children for nine months to justify the enormous expense of blind renewal but lets face it, how many times has that happened in the last twenty years?
I hope for many more miserable seasons at Villa Park:- adding to the countless memories of great times I have spent with my loved ones, if Villa manage to chip in with the odd pot now and then; then frankly it's just the icing on an already splendid cake of life.
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Alicante's not even very nice, anyway.
Further up the coast is where you want to be.
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I'll be renewing, but I don't get the same buzz out of it that I used to.
The only two games to get the blood racing this season were West Ham and Man City.
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I'm renewing what ever the price. I'm Villa till I die, not till it doesn't suit me.
Unfortunately it's this kind of attitude that allows clubs to get away with ripping off supporters like they do. I'm not knocking you Shrek, I've been as bad to be honest, but until we football fans start letting the people who run our game know that they're basically taking the piss with the current pricing structures then we only have ourselves to blame.
Wembley will be full for both the FA Cup final and Champions League final despite the criminal way in which both the FA and UEFA are taking advantage of football supporters with their outrageous pricing - fans will go into debt or sell their grandmas to get to these games and the people who govern our game can only think of how much money they can take us all for. They know that whatever the price, some mug will pay it.
Most of us have either had our wages frozen or knocked back in the current economic climate, or worse still have lost our jobs. It's time for football to play fair with the fans. If income needs increasing then reduce the outgoings instead. If that means upsetting greedy players and their agents then good riddance to them.
A season ticket holder for as long as I can remember I won't take kindly to any kind of increase next season. I'm "Villa til I die" alright, but I'm also sick of having the piss taken out of me by greedy bastards.
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Haven't read through the thread so apologies if this has been mentioned , but I'm surprised the club are announcing prices before we are 100% certain of playing in this league next season.
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although the team has been woefull at times this season I hope to renew I saw my first game in 1959 and to any wavering season ticket holders all I can say is believe it or not there have been numerous worse seasons than this, by the way Im hoping for a reduction
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TC and I intend to renew but if the price rise is dramatic we may have to consider relocating. We currently sit in the Lower Trinity where there have had some large increases over the last few years.
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Haven't read through the thread so apologies if this has been mentioned , but I'm surprised the club are announcing prices before we are 100% certain of playing in this league next season.
They'll point to the extra 4 home games in the Championship and tell you you're getting a good deal.
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Due to redundancy I never renewed last year and due to still not being employed I will not be renewing this year.
Have I missed it, not really as I have picked the matches I wanted to see (I will be there on Saturday against the mighty Wigan) and along with a lot of people I have become very disillusioned with money grabbing footballers and their agents (just do a search on Mario Balotelli)!
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I think all Premier clubs, not just ours, should think very carefully if using the VAT rise as an excuse for putting prices up. The TV money which pumps into the game and is squandered on wages, agents and transfer fees could easily subsidise ticket prices from a tax hike. The game is inflationary from its own crazy economics, nothing to do with anything George Osborne is doing.
In the current climate, even those of us who fairly comfortably have managed to budget for a season ticket in the past, might think twice if pushed too far. I've taken a decision not to go to away games next season, not that I go to many anyway, but £42 at West Brom was a last straw. Home matches, still for convenience as much as anything, I'll carry on with if prices don't rise and there is again an instalment plan.
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Due to economic circumstances I've had to cut back significantly on everything, including my 'match-day experience'. It's now sandwiches and coffee in the car, instead of Fat Stan hot dog and a drink in the Holte concourse, and I've stopped buying programmes. Saves me about a tenner every game. More annoyingly I've had to cut back on away games - used to go to about 10 a season, only went to 2 this year (Wolves and Sheff Utd - would also have gone to Albion but couldn't get a ticket due to insufficient previous away games). A significant hike would test my resolve but I'm sure I'll still renew.
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I'll admit to not having to worry about the cost and renewal of my season ticket but realise that isn't an option for many. However many comments have rung a bell with me and my renewal will be partly out of blind loyalty, partly out of the this could be the year it all clicks and partly becasue I just enjoy being with my mates at most of the homes and some aways.
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Slight increase I reckon. Just a hunch.
Hope not, it's not justified and not a good time to increase prices at all.
And we are still not certain which division we will be in.
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How about this, done a few weeks ago when we were away at West Ham
Taxi to airport - er nowt -
However, it did cost me £10 to park my car at Airparks Garretts green - Friday - Sunday
Flights - Ryan Air - Bham to Alicante - £10 return - no taxes , no baggage fee (my clothes are there)
Car hire from Alicante £22 - paid for Smart car - upgraded to a Merc.
Petrol - negligable - only 25 minute drive - £5 most
Total cost of going Friday evening, spending a few hours in a nice bar, walking on a beach in 22 degrees on the morning, sitting watching the Villa in a bar with mellberg shirts, pics of Holte End , and full of Villa fans with a few San Miguels , spend a nice evening eating tapas, get up Sunday , go in the pool for a few hours , get ready, drive back to Airport , get home for around 9pm.
Cost £47
Cost of Villa game ST Holte Lower works out £23.50 a game , £1 to get in club , £5 to park car - very least £30
Away game at Man City - cost £100
Now, don't get me wrong - I am not saying the above to give the "I am considerably more richer than yow" speech.
What I am saying is, at the moment, I agree, there is nowt better than being on the Holte.
But put the price up much more than what it is - and are you telling me you wouldn't go for option B.
I am now 40 yrs old, I've done it, I remember having not missed a game, home , away , europe for 8 years, sitting crying my heart out on the M1 near Nottingham the day we played Sheff Wed away. My car broke down and I was sobbing coz I thought I was going to miss a game.
Sorry, but those days are gone for me - I have other things in life now as well !
I'm a season ticket holder, travel from Manc and do every away too. Yes going to football is fairly expensive, but so is every hobby. Golf Memberships,, Gy Memberships, nights out etc....and in comparrison it isn't bad.
For example, when we had the recent international weekend, I spent my Saturday in a few bars in town. Ended up having a meal etc....when I got home I realised I'd spent more money than my average day down the Villa!
Yes, the prices have increased but it's not too bad. The things that add up are the food stalls in the ground. I don't buy anything inside the ground apart from a programme and H&V of course!
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Is it too much to ask the club to approach the players to fund any proposed season ticket price increases?
If you assume we have around 27000 season ticket holders and say the club are looking for an average rise of £25 on each season ticket (thats 5% on a £495 season ticket) then that means an additional £675K over the season.
Then if you assume 20 first team squad players, could the club not ask the players to fund this? Doing the maths that would mean each player contributing around £650 per week. Assuming an average wage amongst these 20 players of £30k per week (probably conservative) that would mean asking those players to take a 2% pay cut, not unrealistic in the current economical climate.
I don't think that this is an unreasonable suggestion and would reflect what is currently happening to many people fortunate enought to be holding on to their jobs right now. Shall I put it to the General?
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But their wages are dictated by their contracts...
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I'll admit to not having to worry about the cost and renewal of my season ticket but realise that isn't an option for many. However many comments have rung a bell with me and my renewal will be partly out of blind loyalty, partly out of the this could be the year it all clicks and partly becasue I just enjoy being with my mates at most of the homes and some aways.
And I enjoy being with you! :)
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Not read all through the thread, so apologies if this has already been mentioned. Went into the shop in town at lunchtime on Tuesday and was told by the very helpful lad there that as well as the four monthly instalment plan without interest, there will also be a 10 monthly instalment plan but with a little interest. I'm trusting that this is true.
Hopefully that will help out a few people and enable them to renew if they were thinking they couldn't. For myself, I will be relocating from A3 in the Trinity to A2. Have found that if I move 8 rows back from where I currently am, then for this season I would have paid £55 less for essentially the same view. No brainer really !!!!.
Also I have the added bonus of moving from all the negativity around me to a brand new area with probably just as much negativity. Ahhh the joys of sitting in the Trinity Upper.
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Nicky Keye emailed on Tuesday. That's definately true
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Renewing for the social side of it is the correct answer.
Spot on
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Not read all through the thread, so apologies if this has already been mentioned. Went into the shop in town at lunchtime on Tuesday and was told by the very helpful lad there that as well as the four monthly instalment plan without interest, there will also be a 10 monthly instalment plan but with a little interest. I'm trusting that this is true.
Hopefully that will help out a few people and enable them to renew if they were thinking they couldn't. For myself, I will be relocating from A3 in the Trinity to A2. Have found that if I move 8 rows back from where I currently am, then for this season I would have paid £55 less for essentially the same view. No brainer really !!!!.
Also I have the added bonus of moving from all the negativity around me to a brand new area with probably just as much negativity. Ahhh the joys of sitting in the Trinity Upper.
Spot on, you will need to be credit checked for the 10 month one.
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Not read all through the thread, so apologies if this has already been mentioned. Went into the shop in town at lunchtime on Tuesday and was told by the very helpful lad there that as well as the four monthly instalment plan without interest, there will also be a 10 monthly instalment plan but with a little interest. I'm trusting that this is true.
Hopefully that will help out a few people and enable them to renew if they were thinking they couldn't. For myself, I will be relocating from A3 in the Trinity to A2. Have found that if I move 8 rows back from where I currently am, then for this season I would have paid £55 less for essentially the same view. No brainer really !!!!.
Also I have the added bonus of moving from all the negativity around me to a brand new area with probably just as much negativity. Ahhh the joys of sitting in the Trinity Upper.
Spot on, you will need to be credit checked for the 10 month one.
Come and join us miserable bastards in A4. We're only happy when we're moaning.
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There was a time when I couldn't imagine not going to see Villa. But almost without realising it things change. You might move away from the Midlands, have kids, and get a bit older and other things become just that little more important. And that's before you factor in the cost and Habib Beye et al taking the mick.
But I have still almost vommited with nerves during recent Saturday afternoons. You can be a supporter but it just isn't practical to always go.
And if more people stayed away would the "EPL" improve in the long run?
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There was a time when I couldn't imagine not going to see Villa. But almost without realising it things change. You might move away from the Midlands, have kids, and get a bit older and other things become just that little more important. And that's before you factor in the cost and Habib Beye et al taking the mick.
It's surprisingly easy to get out of it.
I moved abroad for three years in the late 90s, and when I came back, didn't bother going at all for several years. In fact, I pretty much lost interest in football full stop.
But ...
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My pack has just come through the door £480 for lower holte adult, 4 months interest free, 10 months direct debit at 15.9% free access to AVTV, welcome pack I think they have tried really hard to keep us and encoiurage others to become ST holders.
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Still nothing on the OS. What was the cost for your ST last year? Has it gone up a lot?
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£480 for a Lower Holte adult ? It was £450 this season. Dear oh dear !
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All the prices here
Season ticket prices - Clicky (http://avfcplc.co.uk/avfc-assets/season-tickets/stadiumhover2/tickets.html#)
All the details and benefits on tabs along the top of this page
Season Ticket intro - Clicky (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/SeasonTicketsIntro/)
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£80 for the under 8's? Fair play!
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Free AVTV wortd £44.99 Season tickets who already have it will save money then ?
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£405 North Stand, up 3.8%. That's as good as could be expected.
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Mine's (K4) gone up from £490 to £520 (exactly what I predicted on the other ST price thread :D) - up by about 6% to around £27 a game (or £22 if we're in the Championship!). Could have been better I guess but I'll definitely renew
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You'd think after the season we've just had they'd freeze the prices for a year as a good will gesture. Very disappointed to see the increase in price.
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Family stand, £21.31 per game for me and £4.21 for my 7 year old, plus the other benefits, thats not a bad deal.
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In the last few season's there has been at least one group that lose out considerably, usually by withdrawal of concession prices in certain areas or designation of seats into a higher catagory. It'll be interesting to see if that has happened this year.
Have the disabled prices always been on a par with North Stand/Holte wings?
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520 fucking quid
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Adding in AVTV at £44.99 seems good. I've never used it before - does it have live streams of away games?
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Well, it looks to me as if the club has tried its very best to give the best overall value it can.
Putting aside pricing based on the actual football ( I know thats the main thing but bear with me) my junior combo looks like its gone up £30.
Yes, the prices have gone up, but the club appear to be offseting it with a whole range of benefits and small token's to try and soften the blow.
A wristwatch for kids.
Included AVTV.
A welcome 'goody pack'.
I'm sure the club will get hammered by many for offering 'cheap,meaningless tat' - but I think they should be applauded for trying to do their best and by trying to offer something a little bit different.
Of course, money is the bottom line, but fair play to the club, at least they are trying to do their best.
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expected £500 a season for Lower Holte so £480 ain't that bad(as long as you can afford it) and with the other benefits thrown in I'm fairly happy.
now if the Villa could do something about the fuel prices..
UTV
The Doc
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An increase was inevitable but the introduction of a few benefits is a welcome gesture.
The fact that you can have a free upgrade to adult on junior tickets for 2 evening matches is worthwhile.
I am more likely to renew having seen the prices and additional benefits than I was this time yesterday, did fancy going to the Trinity Lower next year but might struggle to find £730 as opposed to £560 for the North Upper for me and junior.
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June 17th renewal for Lower Hotle.
Gives me a month to think about it.
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You can't expect to sign players like Bent and keep the prices the same, lookin at prices around the county ours are competitive
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All things considered I'd say the club have done pretty well there.
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June 17th renewal for Lower Hotle.
Gives me a month to think about it.
Yeh, all pretty fair and it was the fans who input these ideas. Would have liked a free shirt thrown in but that's getting greedy. Now let's go out tomorrow and secure the main benefit - Premier League football next season.
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Mine in Lower Trinity has gone up £25 to £520.
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£480 for a Lower Holte adult ? It was £450 this season. Dear oh dear !
I put this without seeing the other benefits you get so it isn't that bad.
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£360 for the lower north, looks like im going to have to really consider, why can't they do young adult prices there?
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Don't think the prices are that bad.
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Any idea what the souvenir to attach to your seat is going to be, I hope it's a nice comfy cushion with flask attachment.
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Any idea what the souvenir to attach to your seat is going to be, I hope it's a nice comfy cushion with flask attachment.
A heated cushion would be nice but reckon its more likely to be a sticker (perhaps with your name on!)
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Can somebody post the payment options please, can't view them at work.
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Can somebody post the payment options please, can't view them at work.
A 4 month direct debit option with No interest.
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A 10 month direct debit option WITH interest (15.9%).
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Can somebody post the payment options please, can't view them at work.
A 4 month direct debit option with No interest.
OR
A 10 month direct debit option WITH interest.
Cheers, Mark. Any news on dates when you need to apply to take advantage of those offers? I had to do it over 3 months last year as I missed the deadline for 4.
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Can somebody post the payment options please, can't view them at work.
A 4 month direct debit option with No interest.
OR
A 10 month direct debit option WITH interest (15.9%).
OR
Buy it on an AVFC credit card with 0% interest for 9 months.
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Can somebody post the payment options please, can't view them at work.
A 4 month direct debit option with No interest.
OR
A 10 month direct debit option WITH interest.
Cheers, Mark. Any news on dates when you need to apply to take advantage of those offers? I had to do it over 3 months last year as I missed the deadline for 4.
Deadline for 4 months is 15th June; deadline for 10 months is 30th June; or 9 months interest free if you take out an AV credit card
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Details (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2353693,00.html)
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Benefits (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/SeasonTicketsBenefits/)
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Can somebody post the payment options please, can't view them at work.
A 4 month direct debit option with No interest.
OR
A 10 month direct debit option WITH interest (15.9%).
Representative example: Cash price of ticket £480.00 = total amount of credit £480.00. Repayable by 10 monthly instalments of
£51.34. Rate of interest is 1.2408% per month (fixed). Total amount repayable £513.40. Representative APR 15.9%.
Or 4 monthly instalments at £120 0% interest.
£51.34 a month for 10 months will be a lot more palatable for some people than £480 in one hit. They've done a good job if the finance is easily accessible.
I wouldn't get the 15.9% rate though because I never pay my bills on time, get in disputes with companies about all sorts of things and have a dreadful credit history. F*** 'em I say.
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Prices (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/SeasonTicketsPricesPayments/)
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Mods - can we lock this one so it's all on the other thread now?
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You can't expect to sign players like Bent and keep the prices the same, lookin at prices around the county ours are competitive
A cynic would say we only spent the money we received when we sold Milner a few months earlier.
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You can't expect to sign players like Bent and keep the prices the same, lookin at prices around the county ours are competitive
A cynic would say we only spent the money we received when we sold Milner a few months earlier.
The profit on Milner wasn't 18 million though.Remember we bought him for 12 million originally
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You can't expect to sign players like Bent and keep the prices the same, lookin at prices around the county ours are competitive
A cynic would say we only spent the money we received when we sold Milner a few months earlier.
An economic would say that the cost of everything is on the increase and if we need to maintain our position (not improve on it) then this is what we need to do.
While the results on the pitch are not as good as we would hope for the facilities are much better than a few years ago. Keeping them that way costs.
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I'm in K7 and it's dropped to £405 from £475 due to it being recategorised as 'wings' last season. I can't moan at that!
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Breathing a huge sigh of relief at the 10 month direct debit option
I think what is being offered is not at all bad really - all things considered.
Villa are one of the cheapest Premier league season tickets around - even with the price increase aren't we?
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All the prices here
Season ticket prices - Clicky (http://avfcplc.co.uk/avfc-assets/season-tickets/stadiumhover2/tickets.html#)
All the details and benefits on tabs along the top of this page
Season Ticket intro - Clicky (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/SeasonTicketsIntro/)
If you move the mouse pointer around fast enough over the stadium plan, you can get a really pleasing pyschedelic effect
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Slight increase from £540 for me and Jnr to £560 so about £1 per match. Excellent.
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Can somebody post the payment options please, can't view them at work.
A 4 month direct debit option with No interest.
OR
A 10 month direct debit option WITH interest (15.9%).
Representative example: Cash price of ticket £480.00 = total amount of credit £480.00. Repayable by 10 monthly instalments of
£51.34. Rate of interest is 1.2408% per month (fixed). Total amount repayable £513.40. Representative APR 15.9%.
Or 4 monthly instalments at £120 0% interest.
£51.34 a month for 10 months will be a lot more palatable for some people than £480 in one hit. They've done a good job if the finance is easily accessible.
I wouldn't get the 15.9% rate though because I never pay my bills on time, get in disputes with companies about all sorts of things and have a dreadful credit history. F*** 'em I say.
I share your pain.
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Another price increase how ever small I think I gonna pass, I will chance the match deals of for 4 for £40 as like tomorrows game and be selective .
I cannot palate another season of crap under Houiller, let see how they perform but getting my cash.
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At least there is is the possibility of more games included next season (winky thing)
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I cannot palate another season of crap under Houiller, let see how they perform but getting my cash.
Are you renewing Richard, or not?
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Just rang up villa sales and paid mine £410 for me and £315 for my son, i only rang to get extra ticket for liverpool ha ha
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I'm amazed that so many of you seem to have accepted the increases so readily. Personally I'm very unhappy that the prices have gone up again and I find the so-called "benefits" the club are offering as an insult.
AVTV - wow, now we can watch the players actually talking the bullshit we've so far only been able to read. "We've turned the corner", "let's turn Villa Park into a fortress", "sorry we were shite on Saturday and it cost you £40 to watch it, but we're all pulling together now so why not pay £40 again and we'll put an effort in next time".
And, as if propaganda TV wasn't enough, we're even getting a welcome DVD. Gee thanks, I'll invite the neighbours round one night and get some beers in.... or probably like most people I'll dump it straight in the bin.
A car sticker, pin badge and something to stick to my seat - shove the lot of them where the sun don't shine Randy, and knock the £3 they cost off the price of my season ticket please.
Oh and a book of vouchers, great. The only vouchers I want are ones giving me a discount off the following season's season ticket every time a game is moved for live TV.
As others have said on this thread the only real attraction to going nowadays is to meet up with friends and for the social side of it, and it's getting harder and harder to justify the ever-increasing cost of a day spent down the Villa. I would never be driven away from the Villa by poor results or even relegation - but I will be driven away by unfair pricing.
As always, the loyalty of football supporters to their club is being exploited, and despite the current crippling economic climate we are being expected to dig deeper into our pockets to fund greed.
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I would not dream to question a fellow fans actions.
But, if everything is so shit, I presume you are not renewing, despite the relatively small increase ?
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I cannot palate another season of crap under Houiller, let see how they perform but getting my cash.
Are you renewing Richard, or not?
maybe come june! if he is gone
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However, DK, we're still cheaper than most but expected to compete with clubs who bring in far more through ticket sales.
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Mine has gone from 550 - 580.
If you can accept that football finances and prices are ridiculously out of touch with what most of us call reality, and resign yourself to it, then our prices are very reasonable.
Ticket prices are absurd, but it isn't Villa where the problem lies, it is the industry as a whole.
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mine has gone up from £450 to £480 that is an increase of 9% - I was reading yesterday that Utd fans where disgusted to be paying an additional £1.00 per game - my seat at the Villa has just increased by £1.58 per game
If your council tax went up by 9% then you would be going mad with rage.
Therefore after reading all the nice add ons that the club are giving then it is a NO to renewing for me i could not care less about stickers, pin badges, and propaganda TV etc!!!
Fed up of stupid kick off times, silly salaries to the players who could not care less!
Enough is enough after 20+ years of being a season ticket holder I will go to the games where the offers are on, or just go down the local to watch them on the TV.
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Also the vat has gone up to 20% so if it was 400 thats an extra £7.50 on its own & inflation in general, prices are v.good
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Stupid question, but is Witton Lane Upper (P6) going to be £580 for an adult? I ask because it says up to £790 when I hover the mouse over P6.
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Visited VP this morning to exchange some Wigan tks and there was only ONE member of staff
behind the counter,and when I enquired about pricing for next season she broke the news of
a £30 increase (L6 Lower Holte) but then smiled and told me I'd be able to see AVTV for free !!
Rather see a different manager to be honest and defenders who defend and wingers who stay
on their feet and cross to someone who can and will score goals.......mini rant over
Can't think of more than a couple of home matches I have really enjoyed, one of those was
when KMac was in charge -
Yes you guessed despite what I say now the club will get my pension money
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free AVTV what a piss take I have that already and have only used it 1 - 2 times in the past 2 seasons, so i would have cancelled it so I get nothing, How about throwing in something useful like buy a season ticket and get the new shirt for half price, As a good will gesture from messing us around with this seasons shirt.
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Benefits AVTV
An annual pass to AVTV. The official Aston Villa online TV channel was recently relaunched and now offers PC and Mac users the very best content, at high quality, delivered faster than ever before. AVTV normally costs £44.99 and look what great video content you get:
* Behind-the-scenes footage and player features
* Pre-match press conferences with the manager
* Exclusive player and manager interviews
* Highlights and live commentary on every first team, reserves and FA Youth Cup game
Benefits Welcome Pack
When you buy your season ticket you will receive a welcome pack.
The adult pack contains:
* Your season card
* Welcome DVD
* Pin badge
* Car sticker
* Voucher book which could save you over £50
* Special souvenir to attach to your seat at Villa Park
The junior pack (14 and under*) contains:
* Your junior season card
* Welcome DVD
* Window sticker
* Special souvenir to attach to your seat at Villa Park
* JV-Life welcome gifts detailed below
* Ages as of 1 September 2011
Benefits JV-Life
Like last season, all season ticket holders aged 14 and under will automatically become a member of JV-Life, the Aston Villa junior membership club.*
Being a member of JV-Life is the only way young fans can have the chance to be a matchday mascot.
The membership includes:
* Benefits JV-Life Issue One of the quarterly JV-Life comic
* Aston Villa wristwatch
* Free stadium tour for each member
* Invites to special Aston Villa junior events
* • Priority seating at the Aston Villa Open Training Session
* Ages as of 1 September 2011
Benefits Prizes
You'll be automatically entered into prize draws to win experiences that money simply can't buy - giving you the chance to go behind-the-scenes and get closer to the players and the manager.
* Exclusive visits to the training ground
* Pitchside visits to watch the pre-match warm-up at each home game
* Half-time competitions exclusively for season ticket holders
Benefits JV-Life
Throughout the season, you will also have exclusive updates and news from club management and training ground staff by email or post.
Benefits Tickets
Benefits JV-Life
* Junior Ticket Upgrade - We appreciate that some supporters have difficulty with bringing children to evening matches. So for the 2011/12 season, we are giving you two complimentary junior to adult upgrades for specified evening games.*
* The Recruit a Villan scheme will continue allowing season ticket holders to collect club cash to spend at Villa Park each time you purchase a ticket for another person (brand new or regular fans). There will also be unforgettable prizes for those of you who recruit the most supporters. See the Recruit a Villan pages for more information.
* As always, you will get ticket priority on home, away and cup matches.
* You will also have access to Aston Villa's official ticket exchange, Viagogo. Season ticket holders who can't make a game can sell their ticket to another Villa fan and get cash for their spare ticket.
*Ages as of 1 September 2011. Terms and conditions apply in the family area.
Benefits Discounts
* Access to matchday suites for pre and post-match food and drinks - the Holte Pub, the Holte Suite and Gordon Cowans Suite in the Indoor Academy (entrance fee applies).
* Free entry into home reserve and selected youth team games.
* Access to the cup and away scheme - automatic ticketing schemes that conveniently charge your credit/debit card and automatically send tickets for home cup games and away matches. If you cannot make the match, you can send your tickets back to the ticket office within the specified time slot. The away scheme is subject to a £25 fee and a maximum three-game cancellation policy. Download the cup scheme or the away scheme forms to apply.
* Booklet of vouchers which could save you over £50 on matchday refreshments, merchandise in the Villastore, away travel and the VMF restaurant and much more.
* 10% discount in Villastores whenever you present your season card.
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I have a season ticket in the Upper Holte. If (when) I renew do I have to do it by 14th June or will my seat still be available until 14th July?
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I have a season ticket in the Upper Holte. If (when) I renew do I have to do it by 14th June or will my seat still be available until 14th July?
i'm guessing the date is from when you can renew and you have until 14th july until your seat goes on general sale
might be completeley wrong tho
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That always confuses me too but according to SOTC they allocate different dates for the different stands to make it easier for the ticket office to deal with (which I suppose makes sense). Your seat will not be released for general sale until after the renewal deadline day of 14th July.
Oi - don't quote me - I'm only guessing!!
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mine has gone up from £450 to £480 that is an increase of 9% - I was reading yesterday that Utd fans where disgusted to be paying an additional £1.00 per game - my seat at the Villa has just increased by £1.58 per game
If your council tax went up by 9% then you would be going mad with rage.
Therefore after reading all the nice add ons that the club are giving then it is a NO to renewing for me i could not care less about stickers, pin badges, and propaganda TV etc!!!
Fed up of stupid kick off times, silly salaries to the players who could not care less!
Enough is enough after 20+ years of being a season ticket holder I will go to the games where the offers are on, or just go down the local to watch them on the TV.
On those figures it's gone up 6.67% not 9%
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However, DK, we're still cheaper than most but expected to compete with clubs who bring in far more through ticket sales.
We are never going to compete financially with those clubs who bring in far more through ticket sales. ManU or Arsenal put up ticket prices knowing that if a season ticket holder doesn't renew, then there's a waiting list of fans to take their place.
Villa put up prices and less people will buy season tickets next season - then the 'spare' tickets are sold off with cheap offers just to bump the attendance back up.
After a season in which we have once again thrown away our European place, and pulled out of the FA Cup, even the draw of buying a season ticket to guarantee a cup final ticket is now an empty offer.
Another arguement for buying a season ticket has always been that it takes away the hassle of buying a ticket each game - but with the online services nowadays, getting hold of a match ticket is no problem - not like when you had to physically get down to the Ticket Office.
I believe that by putting up prices yet again our average gates will drop again, so will the overall ticket income end up being that much greater? ... particularly when you take into account the amount of money that is spent in advertising and marketing campaigns to try and sell the empty seats off cheap.
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mine has gone up from £450 to £480 that is an increase of 9% - I was reading yesterday that Utd fans where disgusted to be paying an additional £1.00 per game - my seat at the Villa has just increased by £1.58 per game
If your council tax went up by 9% then you would be going mad with rage.
Therefore after reading all the nice add ons that the club are giving then it is a NO to renewing for me i could not care less about stickers, pin badges, and propaganda TV etc!!!
Fed up of stupid kick off times, silly salaries to the players who could not care less!
Enough is enough after 20+ years of being a season ticket holder I will go to the games where the offers are on, or just go down the local to watch them on the TV.
On those figures it's gone up 6.67% not 9%
Its twice inflation
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I have a season ticket in the Upper Holte. If (when) I renew do I have to do it by 14th June or will my seat still be available until 14th July?
It will be available until 14th July.
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We are never going to compete financially with those clubs who bring in far more through ticket sales. ManU or Arsenal put up ticket prices knowing that if a season ticket holder doesn't renew, then there's a waiting list of fans to take their place.
What about Spurs, Everton, Sunderland etc?
As Paulie says above, prices for football in this country are ridiculously high but within that ours are among the best.
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I'm in L2 (obviously) but haven't been home to see my pack yet Can anyone tell me I'm paying next season?
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I can't remember what I paid last year. I think it was £395. Oh well, I can live with £405 in The Holte wings.
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I've just received the equivalent of half a tree through my door giving me all the exciting news of benefits of my increased price season ticket if I renew. I'm all for keeping local printers in business but do I really need to receive 12 photos showing me what other Villa fans look like?
Along with all the other crap being thrown in I read that one of the NEW features of my BRAND NEW season ticket will be that "throughout the season, you will also have exclusive inside news sent to you by email from the club management and training ground staff." Can't wait to see what that is!!!
Who the f**k let marketing graduates get involved in football?
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I'm pretty happy, AVTV is a fantastic service (although I don't pay for it currently). £440 for me (student, lower Holte).
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Me and my cousin aren't bothering next season, we sit in L4 row LL just to the right of the goal. Decent seats, but plenty of idiots around that don't have a clue and do my head in. Starting to play myself again on a Saturday now so would more than likely miss half of the games anyway.
Will still go to a few though, the games that they have deals for and the derbies.
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We are never going to compete financially with those clubs who bring in far more through ticket sales. ManU or Arsenal put up ticket prices knowing that if a season ticket holder doesn't renew, then there's a waiting list of fans to take their place.
What about Spurs, Everton, Sunderland etc?
As Paulie says above, prices for football in this country are ridiculously high but within that ours are among the best.
Spurs have a big waiting list too. That's why they're looking to move to a much bigger stadium. Everton's gates are down roughly by the same amount as ours this season. The league table tells me that we are competing with Sunderland and their gates are on average 600 down on last season even though they've performed better.
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Just reading through the list of benefits. It's fluff and padding isn't it? OK, you get AVTV. The chance to see Watisname Woodward, crap from Gerard Houllier and regular 'battle cry' interviews with Petrov and Stuart Downing.
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I'm in L2 (obviously) but haven't been home to see my pack yet Can anyone tell me I'm paying next season?
It's all here: http://avfcplc.co.uk/avfc-assets/season-tickets/stadiumhover2/tickets.html#
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We are never going to compete financially with those clubs who bring in far more through ticket sales. ManU or Arsenal put up ticket prices knowing that if a season ticket holder doesn't renew, then there's a waiting list of fans to take their place.
What about Spurs, Everton, Sunderland etc?
As Paulie says above, prices for football in this country are ridiculously high but within that ours are among the best.
ASTON VILLA
2008-09: £265 - £510
2009-10: £295 - £510
2010-11: £350 – £550
2011-12: £360 - £580
EVERTON
2008-09: £503 - £603
2009-10: £399 - £586
2010-11: £443 – £631
SUNDERLAND
2008-09: £415 - £525
2009-10: £350 - £465
2010-11: £395 – £845
TOTTENHAM
2008-09: £635 - £1,675
2009-10: Price freeze
2010-11: £650 – £1,175
I have taken those figures from a couple of internet articles.
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DeKuip - I think you're being a bit over the top in your annoyance about this. Yes we'd all like season ticket prices to be lower but the Villa can't do anything about that. If you want to pay less, go and watch Sutton Coldfield Town (£80 for a season ticket I think!). If you want to watch a Premier League team then you have to pay the going rate for Premier League football. The Villa had the 4th lowest season ticket prices in the Premier League this year (http://www.footballfancast.com/2010/06/football-blogs/premier-league-season-ticket-prices-a-tad-unfair) so it's hardly unreasonable for them to increase them. Bear in mind also that inflation is running at 4-5% and there was a 2.5% increase in VAT. A 6.5%-7.5% increase is basically keeping income in line with the clubs base costs therefore; ie before increases in player salaries, improvements to the stadium, etc, etc.
And yes, the stuff in the welcome pack is almost certainly tat but at least the club have done something rather than just go, "Here's your increase - deal with it".
Has anyone seen any matchday prices for next season? I'm trying to work out how many games on silly days or at silly times you can afford to miss before the season ticket is worthless!!!
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Stupid question, but is Witton Lane Upper (P6) going to be £580 for an adult? I ask because it says up to £790 when I hover the mouse over P6.
Tim, I think the £790 ,is for "Adult & Junior Combo"
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Another comparison - season ticket for Kidderminster Harriers is £228 standing/£278 seated, so an extra £242 (about £12.50 a game) for me to watch 19 Premier League games instead of 23 non-league games doesn't seem over the top to be fair
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We are never going to compete financially with those clubs who bring in far more through ticket sales. ManU or Arsenal put up ticket prices knowing that if a season ticket holder doesn't renew, then there's a waiting list of fans to take their place.
What about Spurs, Everton, Sunderland etc?
As Paulie says above, prices for football in this country are ridiculously high but within that ours are among the best.
Spurs have a big waiting list too. That's why they're looking to move to a much bigger stadium. Everton's gates are down roughly by the same amount as ours this season. The league table tells me that we are competing with Sunderland and their gates are on average 600 down on last season even though they've performed better.
But they receive more income through higher prices, as VD shows below.
The prices are a bastard, no two ways about it, but that's the world we are in.
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Thinking about the AVTV free thing what if like my best mate you don't have Internet access how does he benefit from that. As i said earlier why not 25 - 50% off next seasons shirt as that is a benefit for everyone plus would help possible sponsors as more people would buy the shirt, whereas free AVTV is only a benefit for people with internet access which isn't everyone.
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We are never going to compete financially with those clubs who bring in far more through ticket sales. ManU or Arsenal put up ticket prices knowing that if a season ticket holder doesn't renew, then there's a waiting list of fans to take their place.
What about Spurs, Everton, Sunderland etc?
As Paulie says above, prices for football in this country are ridiculously high but within that ours are among the best.
Spurs have a big waiting list too. That's why they're looking to move to a much bigger stadium. Everton's gates are down roughly by the same amount as ours this season. The league table tells me that we are competing with Sunderland and their gates are on average 600 down on last season even though they've performed better.
But they receive more income through higher prices, as VD shows below.
The prices are a bastard, no two ways about it, but that's the world we are in.
I'm not sure that we should meekly accept that our tickets continue rising on the ticket price escalator. If we do accept it, we are entitled to ask what they are doing about commercial revenue, which is the area of the club that isn't contributing as it should.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jTLqZKCTXLM/TXdSe3qFBXI/AAAAAAAAC9w/bBY8wt7-gJo/s400/2%2BMoney%2BLeague.jpg)
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Thinking about the AVTV free thing what if like my best mate you don't have Internet access how does he benefit from that. As i said earlier why not 25 - 50% off next seasons shirt as that is a benefit for everyone plus would help possible sponsors as more people would buy the shirt, whereas free AVTV is only a benefit for people with internet access which isn't everyone.
How many people these days don't have internet access?
Apart from Osama in that house in Russabbottabad, obviously.
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Thinking about the AVTV free thing what if like my best mate you don't have Internet access how does he benefit from that. As i said earlier why not 25 - 50% off next seasons shirt as that is a benefit for everyone plus would help possible sponsors as more people would buy the shirt, whereas free AVTV is only a benefit for people with internet access which isn't everyone.
He'll be too busy throwing rocks at planes to worry about it.
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When i worked in Telephone Marketing you'd be surprised about how many people don't have access to the internet
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Interesting article here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/apr/11/bundesliga-premier-league
But it is not just the Bundesliga. If you look at the ticket prices for other European leagues such as Spain, France and Italy and you will find ticket prices which are much lower than the British leagues.
I know we are not the problem here. High ticket prices stretches across most of British football. It cost me £20 to go see Walsall a few weeks back for example. We are not even the worst suspects if you consider the prices at Man United and Arsenal. But what I would question is why our ticket prices have gone up continually as Villadawg's figures show whereas the rival clubs have either froze or cut prices in at least one of the seasons he has found figures for.
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When i worked in Telephone Marketing you'd be surprised about how many people don't have access to the internet
Yes, but that was 1978.
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Starting to play with myself again on a Saturday now so would more than likely miss half of the games anyway.
You can have a wank any time.
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Starting to play with myself again on a Saturday now so would more than likely miss half of the games anyway.
You can have a wank any time.
:D
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Starting to play with myself again on a Saturday now so would more than likely miss half of the games anyway.
You can have a wank any time.
Plus, think of the money you'll be forking out for tissues.
(Unless you're using an old sock that is now stiff as a board from mis-use.)
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Starting to play with myself again on a Saturday now so would more than likely miss half of the games anyway.
You can have a wank any time.
According to my unfair dismissal tribunal, you cant.
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My mates a Baggies season ticket holder, I asked him what benefits he got and he laughed and said fuck all, You get into the games, I think they may get a discount in the shop but that's it..People want too much these days.
You pay for a season ticket and you get into the games.
You don't pay you don't get in..Its quite simple
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Only had a half ST this year. Can't afford it now with two young kids. Been dissillusioned by the game for a long time as well so will give it a miss, especially when it looks like another year of transition.
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When i worked in Telephone Marketing you'd be surprised about how many people don't have access to the internet
Yes, but that was 1978.
I was Minus 6 then
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Stuart445 Wrote:
When i worked in Telephone Marketing you'd be surprised about how many people don't have access to the internet
Did you work in telemarketing in 1994 ?
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Stuart445 Wrote:
When i worked in Telephone Marketing you'd be surprised about how many people don't have access to the internet
Did you work in telemarketing in 1994 ?
no March 2011
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When i worked in Telephone Marketing you'd be surprised about how many people don't have access to the internet
Yes, but that was 1978.
I was Minus 6 then
Most people in tele marketing are around that age.
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DeKuip - I think you're being a bit over the top in your annoyance about this. Yes we'd all like season ticket prices to be lower but the Villa can't do anything about that. If you want to pay less, go and watch Sutton Coldfield Town (£80 for a season ticket I think!). If you want to watch a Premier League team then you have to pay the going rate for Premier League football. The Villa had the 4th lowest season ticket prices in the Premier League this year (http://www.footballfancast.com/2010/06/football-blogs/premier-league-season-ticket-prices-a-tad-unfair) so it's hardly unreasonable for them to increase them. Bear in mind also that inflation is running at 4-5% and there was a 2.5% increase in VAT. A 6.5%-7.5% increase is basically keeping income in line with the clubs base costs therefore; ie before increases in player salaries, improvements to the stadium, etc, etc.
And yes, the stuff in the welcome pack is almost certainly tat but at least the club have done something rather than just go, "Here's your increase - deal with it".
Has anyone seen any matchday prices for next season? I'm trying to work out how many games on silly days or at silly times you can afford to miss before the season ticket is worthless!!!
You should me at Asda when Baked Beans go up a penny!
This time last year one of the benefits the club plugged was priority for cup final tickets should we get there - clearly sensitive at what backlash that might cause after this season's surrenders, some bright spark has decided a car sticker and a badge is now THE "benefit" to having an increased price season ticket. Or emails with exclusive news from the training ground. Or palming off AVTV as a free gift benefit - as if it's something worth paying for in the first place.
It's a bit like your boss telling you he's cutting your wages but as a bonus you can take home the contents of your wastepaper bin.
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When i worked in Telephone Marketing you'd be surprised about how many people don't have access to the internet
Yes, but that was 1978.
I was Minus 6 then
Most people in tele marketing are around that age.
well all the people i worked with were my age (which is 26 btw) and some younger, I lasted just over a month as it ain't something I wanted to do and it didn't suit me as I didn't try to push people when they said No.
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Just had my pack, £530 so increase of £35. Holte upper.
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Starting to play with myself again on a Saturday now so would more than likely miss half of the games anyway.
You can have a wank any time.
Plus, think of the money you'll be forking out for tissues.
(Unless you're using an old sock that is now stiff as a board from mis-use.)
Got 15 years worth of programmes to use for that, love the centrefolds. They always hit the spot.
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Starting to play with myself again on a Saturday now so would more than likely miss half of the games anyway.
You can have a wank any time.
According to my unfair dismissal tribunal, you cant.
Hahaha. 'LOL'
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AVTV isn't bad, once you get used to Woodwards sychophantism (and footage of his driving lessons with Pat Heard). Good to be able to see highlights of the reserves and interviews with players who you don't normally hear from in the press.
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Fairly pleased with that. Not bothered about the fringe benefits but the range of instalment options is better. A slight rise but works out, even over 10 months with interest, at about £32 a game for me.
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In short, I am unhappy that I will be paying 30 quid extra and my kids will be paying 15 quid extra each.
However, my actual post is not about that.
Over the past few years the general especially has backed up price rises by saying two things.
1. Cup final ticket priority - ahem !!!
2. We are living in the real world - if you want us to buy the best players, we have to offer them the wages, you can't have Gold when you charge for tin foil - kind of thing.
Well, I am pretty sure the club are trying to slash the wage bill aren't they by something like 30% - then surely by the same note they could afford a 30% reduction in ticket costs.
Yeah as if that is likely !!!.
Sorry, the club don't give a shitge about us. I honestly don't know if I will renew - bearing in mind the date is mid-July, it gives a fair idea of where we will be as a club.
Exciting signings by 7th July - I might succomb , a load of sales and no incomings, with GMac still in charge
Then nope
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Sorry, the club don't give a shitge about us.
Have to take issue with that Paul.
Up till this season, the board have hardly put a foot wrong, the club is more customer friendly than it has been throughout it's history.
Nobody likes increases, but it's a modest one and i'm sure next season will not be as dismal as this one.
Let's see what the new manager can produce.
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No - they arte just better at the PR machine !
Do you know my two kids ST's have gone up from £50 in the last year of DOL - to this new one £220 - in 5 yrs !!!!!!!!!!!!
I can't remember how much mine was then but it was definately below £250 in the lower Holte.
The club have quietly put prices up by a massive amount and done it in such a way (hiking one area up by a large amount one year, another one the next year and so on) that no-one has noticed.
Tell me one thing the owner has done for me, a normal fan sitting on the Holte End. Oh sorry, forgot, a scalf, a flag and a pin badge !.
Do you know the VERY LEAST I expected out of this - ST holders have free entry into the Holte Suite or Pu and a free cup game after this years debacle but no ! , so no, sorry , I ain't impressed with a car sticker and a welcome DVD costing £30 !!!
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No - they arte just better at the PR machine !
Do you know my two kids ST's have gone up from £50 in the last year of DOL - to this new one £220 - in 5 yrs !!!!!!!!!!!!
I can't remember how much mine was then but it was definately below £250 in the lower Holte.
The club have quietly put prices up by a massive amount and done it in such a way (hiking one area up by a large amount one year, another one the next year and so on) that no-one has noticed.
Tell me one thing the owner has done for me, a normal fan sitting on the Holte End. Oh sorry, forgot, a scalf, a flag and a pin badge !.
Do you know the VERY LEAST I expected out of this - ST holders have free entry into the Holte Suite or Pu and a free cup game after this years debacle but no ! , so no, sorry , I ain't impressed with a car sticker and a welcome DVD costing £30 !!!
You do have choice as to whether to go or not. If it's that bad why do you go? Not meaning to be a prick, but your entire post is as if the club have completely screwed you. I appreciate the cost of football isn't for everyone, therefore you have a choice. There are plenty of other ways you can support your team.
In the real world, costs have gone up massively. Do you really expect any business, football or otherwise to continue to absorb costs if the costs being levied on them go up? It's not reasonable. I think our club tries to understand the demanding times as much, if not more than most, but in the end, in order to remain competitive in one of the worlds most competitive football leagues, it has generate revenue. That's real life. It won't be for everyone. It never has been.
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Read the 13 pages of the thread and you will see why I and many many others go the football.
And it AINT the football !!!
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Tell me one thing the owner has done for me, a normal fan sitting on the Holte End. Oh sorry, forgot, a scalf, a flag and a pin badge !.
Such a lack of respect to Randy,
He has unreservedly backed the club for 4 years,
We were very close to CL football and to winning a cup, that prick MON was the only reason we never acheived those thngs, not Randy
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Read the 13 pages of the thread and you will see why I and many many others go the football.
And it AINT the football !!!
Oh and the other thing - I know you are in Canada so you may not know, but the UK is ON ITS KNEES !!!!.
I am on a 2 yr pay freeze, that have increased my pension by 2 percent and utility bills have gone up nearly 100% in two years !! - and I am one of the lucky ones, I am one that has kept his job !!!
So excuse me for not being excited when I, and 40500 others are charged extra money so we can offer Ashley at least 80000 a week instead of 60000 !!!
how about making the players cough up. I worked it out the other month - if every player took a 1000 pound pay cut - now that is basically saying "accept 59000 a week instead of 60 !" - every season ticket could be offered FREE !!!!!
THAT IS HOW APPALLING THIS ALL IS - it is not the figure , it is how football , not Villa, FOOTBALL, is taking the piss out of us - and they know they can coz you will always have people like Shrek saying "I am Villa til I die, whatever the cost, Ill pay it"
Well personally, I bloody hope a lot (maybe including me) dont !
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You do have choice as to whether to go or not. If it's that bad why do you go? Not meaning to be a prick, but your entire post is as if the club have completely screwed you. I appreciate the cost of football isn't for everyone, therefore you have a choice. There are plenty of other ways you can support your team.
In the real world, costs have gone up massively. Do you really expect any business, football or otherwise to continue to absorb costs if the costs being levied on them go up? It's not reasonable. I think our club tries to understand the demanding times as much, if not more than most, but in the end, in order to remain competitive in one of the worlds most competitive football leagues, it has generate revenue. That's real life. It won't be for everyone. It never has been.
Whilst my stance is a little different from Paul's (see prev page), yours is somewhat extreme, isn't it?
You seem to be basically saying "costs go up, the price goes up, if you can't afford it, tough shit, watch MOTD or something". If the club took that approach, we'd be in a very sticky situation indeed.
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Well, I am pretty sure the club are trying to slash the wage bill aren't they by something like 30% - then surely by the same note they could afford a 30% reduction in ticket costs.
Yeah as if that is likely !!!.
Sorry, the club don't give a shitge about us.
We've had 3 months of posts on here about how crap the club's finances are and questionning the boards ability to do something about it. When they do something there are complaints too! Cutting wages is to try to balance the books, not to give away season tickets.
Ultimately, it's just the way it is in life, not just football. If people are willing to pay for something then it can't be overpriced. Average attendances in the top flight being consistently higher than the majority of the post-war era suggest it's not overpriced as there are plenty of people willing to pay it each week. Everyone said the Champions League final was overpriced - I tried to get tickets and lost out in the ballot because it was oversubscribed!!!
We've been talking about a watershed for years and it's never arrived. The key driver to all of this is the ridiculous wages players get but the Villa can't do much about that unless we're happy to accept worse players than everyone else. Unless something happens to the structure of football in general the club are going to have to keep upping prices just to stand still.
In this climate, the club seem to have made the best of a bad situation so fair play to them.
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how about making the players cough up. I worked it out the other month - if every player took a 1000 pound pay cut - now that is basically saying "accept 59000 a week instead of 60 !" - every season ticket could be offered FREE !!!!!
How you work that out??
33 First team squad, thats £33,000 a week if they took a £1,000 week pay cut each, or £1,716,000 a year. How many season ticket holders we got?? 22,000. Thats £78 off each season ticket.
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Firstly, i can't complain about how much i pay in the Upper Holte, i moved there from the Lower North to sit with a mate two seasons ago. I expected it to go up about a quid a game anyway, so i'm not too annoyed. £210 in the Upper Holte for an under 16 sounds a bit steep though.
As for the benefits, i think they could have gone a bit further, like maybe free entry into the Holte Suite or The Academy. I think the 10th month payment plan is a fantastic idea though and will really help people out so fair play to the club for that.
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Another comparison - season ticket for Kidderminster Harriers is £228 standing/£278 seated, so an extra £242 (about £12.50 a game) for me to watch 19 Premier League games instead of 23 non-league games doesn't seem over the top to be fair
Don't try to compare non-league or even lower league prices with Premier League prices, there is nothing like the TV revenue or prize money down there, practically all the revenue at Kiddy has to come from sponsorship, gate money and whatever fund raising schemes they can come up with.
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Yes but the cost to the supporter of season tickets is even.further out of kilter with what you get than premier league season tickets are.
Whatever the economics, 280 quid to watch Kiddeeminster play is mental. We all know there is something very wrong with the money side of the PL but that figure suggests non league is even worse.
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Do you know the VERY LEAST I expected out of this - ST holders have free entry into the Holte Suite or Pu and a free cup game after this years debacle but no ! , so no, sorry , I ain't impressed with a car sticker and a welcome DVD costing £30 !!!
It does piss me off that season ticket holders can't use the Holte pub without paying £4 to get in.
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£15 increase in the Upper Holte wings for me, 80p per match increase means ours works out to £21.30 per match, bargain really compared to the extortional prices we pay to go away to some bogs - the payment plans are a big help though.
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You do have choice as to whether to go or not. If it's that bad why do you go? Not meaning to be a prick, but your entire post is as if the club have completely screwed you. I appreciate the cost of football isn't for everyone, therefore you have a choice. There are plenty of other ways you can support your team.
In the real world, costs have gone up massively. Do you really expect any business, football or otherwise to continue to absorb costs if the costs being levied on them go up? It's not reasonable. I think our club tries to understand the demanding times as much, if not more than most, but in the end, in order to remain competitive in one of the worlds most competitive football leagues, it has generate revenue. That's real life. It won't be for everyone. It never has been.
Whilst my stance is a little different from Paul's (see prev page), yours is somewhat extreme, isn't it?
You seem to be basically saying "costs go up, the price goes up, if you can't afford it, tough shit, watch MOTD or something". If the club took that approach, we'd be in a very sticky situation indeed.
Paulie, it's not that at all. You have to make choices in life. If your personal situation changes you need to adjust accordingly. If going to the Villa is important, as it was to me when I lived there, I decided to go. It meant there were other things I couldn't do. That's the choice I made given my disposable income.
The club are doing what they can given the sensitivity of the economy to minimize the increases. Because I'm sure they could have increased it by more. Or they could have decreased the season ticket prices, not invested in players like Bent, and the team could have continued to struggle and they'd have been criticised for that. As fans we can't have it all. Sorry if I don't sound overly sympathetic, but a football club isn't immune to the realities of rising costs anymore than you or I are. Unfortunately they are in an industry that shows little sign in controlling itself, and either they go along with it by trying to provide the best product possible (which is going to cost money) or they don't and there are potentially even more serious consequences if they deciede to do that.
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Not had my 'pack'yet :(
Not sure if I'm renewing though for me and the two kids an increase in the family stand of £40 is a bit much
Even if I do I'll be moving
The large 'lady' who now sits next to me seems to think that its ok for her fat arse to take up half of my seat as well! :'(
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For those who have received their pack, what's this I hear of a "singles area"?
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For those who have received their pack, what's this I hear of a "singles area"?
Sounds a bit risque myself - I'm single and happy to be so - couldn't afford a partner.
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Think I'll do the same as I did last season,
Bumble through to Xmas on the cheap 5 games for 100 quid type deals plus 20 quid rerstricted view seats in the Upper witton which I had for the Baggies game. Then I'll probably get a half season ticket for 220 quid at Xmas.
I'll imagine they'll be plenty of the game combination deals as I think we'll lose a fair few season ticket holders this summer for various reasons.
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Think I'll do the same as I did last season,
Bumble through to Xmas on the cheap 5 games for 100 quid type deals plus 20 quid rerstricted view seats in the Upper witton which I had for the Baggies game. Then I'll probably get a half season ticket for 220 quid at Xmas.
I'll imagine they'll be plenty of the game combination deals as I think we'll lose a fair few season ticket holders this summer for various reasons.
Cracking idea.
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Read the 13 pages of the thread and you will see why I and many many others go the football.
And it AINT the football !!!
Oh and the other thing - I know you are in Canada so you may not know, but the UK is ON ITS KNEES !!!!.
I am on a 2 yr pay freeze, that have increased my pension by 2 percent and utility bills have gone up nearly 100% in two years !! - and I am one of the lucky ones, I am one that has kept his job !!!
So excuse me for not being excited when I, and 40500 others are charged extra money so we can offer Ashley at least 80000 a week instead of 60000 !!!
how about making the players cough up. I worked it out the other month - if every player took a 1000 pound pay cut - now that is basically saying "accept 59000 a week instead of 60 !" - every season ticket could be offered FREE !!!!!
THAT IS HOW APPALLING THIS ALL IS - it is not the figure , it is how football , not Villa, FOOTBALL, is taking the piss out of us - and they know they can coz you will always have people like Shrek saying "I am Villa til I die, whatever the cost, Ill pay it"
Well personally, I bloody hope a lot (maybe including me) dont !
It has long been the case that the 90 minutes of the game are the worst part of the day, especially at away games which are a great day out and definitely better than pushing a trolley around Tesco.
I agree with you that football is taking the piss. Everyone is struggling but we still have to pay ridiculous money to them that is totally out of proportion with the rest of us mere mortals. We will renew as we always, robotically, do but I can't blame people who decide to call it a day. People need to understand the economic situation. You have to put food on the table before buying season tickets. If everytime you brought bread from a shop it was mouldy you would go elsewhere. The same applies when considering the ridiculous cost of watching shit football.
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I'm sort of considering North Stand. It'd cost me £440 in the lower Holte as a student, or £360 standard in lower North. I imagine the atmosphere is better in the North due to the location of the away supporters, but I'm put off by the supposed lack of leg room. I don't recall ever sitting in the lower North, althoguh I have in the upper a few times.
Just a bit hesitant to give up my seat (had it for years and it's great), and worried incase North Stand redevelopment starts and we get shifted about mid-season or something.
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As an over 65 in the Lower Holte I can't complain about the increase from £210 to £240 and in any case, as Dave Clark Five and others have said, there's more to the matchday experience - fortunately - than just the 90 minutes in the middle of the day.
I was considering the interest-free payment spread over 4 months, but I see that this is no longer handled by the club but by Zebra Finance, who "whether or not your application is accepted may send you information about products of ours that may be of interest to you and may pass your details on to other companies." Zebra also search your record at credit reference agencies and the details of their search may be passed on to other search agencies. Perhaps this is standard procedure whenever you take out credit but I find this a less appealing option than just signing a direct debit agreement with Villa, which is what I did last season.
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I could do it in one blast but was contemplating the four payments idea.
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Hi could anyone tell me when the first payments on the 4 month interest free plan will be taken i know the 10 month plan starts in june but ill be skint in june
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Hi could anyone tell me when the first payments on the 4 month interest free plan will be taken i know the 10 month plan starts in june but ill be skint in june
Last year it was May, but that was when the club ran it. It may be different with Zebra.
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Hi could anyone tell me when the first payments on the 4 month interest free plan will be taken i know the 10 month plan starts in june but ill be skint in june
Last year it was May, but that was when the club ran it. It may be different with Zebra.
You've got until the middle of June to apply so it'll be June at the earliest.
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Cheers think i'll just have to go with the 10 months