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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on March 13, 2011, 08:06:16 PM
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4-0 Home win
Bent 12
Young (A.) 34
Downing 56
Albrighton 78
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Scrappy 1-0 and much needed clean sheet
Albrighton to score.
Will Cuellar be available?
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2-1 Villa win. Bent and Downing.
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Will take any kind of win from this,Wolves playing well and will give us more of a battle than Blackburn did. 2-1.
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Bloody hate this game almost as much as the Blues one, 3-2 to us, Downing, Bent, Clark
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2 - 2 for me, with all the goals coming in the second half!
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Two all draw
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2-1 Villa
Doyle, Bent, and Downing with the spoils.
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I am so bloody nervous about this one. I'm confident that we'll make plenty of chances but pessimistic about our chances of keeping a clean sheet.
5-3 to us.
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It's certainly a six pointer, we just cannot lose.
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2-1 win, won't be easy though. Wolves imo are not a bottom 3 team and they'll be above WBA and SHAat the end of the season imo.
Hope we have a back 4 of Walker, Carlos, Collins, Young for this one.
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2-0 win.
Bent and Gabby
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Dogheads at home should be a relative stroll in the park. Instead i'm fucking dreading this game. I dread to think what will happen if we lose.
Any score or result is possible with us just lately, so i'll go 2-2 with other results not helping us and leaving us firmly in the shite.
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2-4. T'int gonna be pretty.
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Villa 2 Bhati Bros 1
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Bloody hate this game almost as much as the Blues one, 3-2 to us, Downing, Bent, Clark
Clarke suspended. 10 yellow cards. Cuellar will be fit Collins still a doubt. 2-1 Bent, Downing ....
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4-4.
We have goals in us, but can't defend for shit.
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3-2 to us. Albrighton, Bent x2.
If we don't win this then we must at least make sure that we DO NOT LOSE! They need the win more than we do so if we do only draw it won't be a disaster. Bloody better win though. >:(
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4-0 Villa. They bloody owe us. No excuses.
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Two poor sides, very little between them.
A clean sheet for us is an impossibility, so i'll go for a nervy 2-1 win
A.Young and Downing.
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Us 3 - 2 Them
Bent (2) & Albrighton for us.
Own goal & Doyle for them.
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Frustrating draw, 1-1.
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I'll go for 3-1. We cant defend but they cant either and we have more firepower.
Yep, a real dogfight this one but being at home, rested and that little extra quality should see us edge it.
Nothing would suprise me with this game though.
So, we'll be 2 up at half time, they'll get a dodgy deflection or something, put us under pressure for half an hour and we'll nick one near the end to finish it off.
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I'm going for a 3-1 win.
We'll be 3-0 up and cruising and we'll let a goal in, typical.
Shit 1st half followed by a cracking 2nd half.
Downing
Bent
Young
Someone shit for them.... Take your pick.
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3-1 home win
The fighting at champneys will galvanise us as a unit - siege mentality (see SAF mindgames as a good example of how this works with footballers)
Bent, Downing & Pires (never thought I'd say that) with the strikes
Doyle late consolation
Fancy a red card in this game too
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1-1 Gabby scoring for us.
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1-2
Our soft underbelly will be shown again. They will outscrap us.
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Villa win - 2-1 in a bruiser.
Anyone on this site under the age of 31 has never seen Villa lose to Wolves.
We've won the League and European Cup more recently than we've lost to the dog yeds
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1-2
Our soft underbelly will be shown again. They will outscrap us.
Isn't Jean the second back for this game? Him and NRC should be good enough in midfield.
Worried that Wolves will get alot of joy from set pieces though.
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Frustrating draw, 1-1.
Me 2
us to go 1 up then they get a deflected goal off someone's arse then they get 10 men behind the ball and we look at each other clueless
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6-0 Villa. Why not?*
*apart from all the really good reasons why not.
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We've got plenty of options in midfield and up front anyway. Just need to hope we can put out a reasonably experienced defence.
I'd like to play Delph, Makoun and Reo Coker in midfield as I think they'd run the show but that means one of the three amigos behind Bent missing out and he wont do that. Not sure I could blame him.
So I think we'll go with...
..............................Friedel
Walker........Collins...........Cuellar......Young
...................Makoun.......Reo Coker
Downing................Young..............Albrighton
..............................Bent
If in trouble or need to go for the kill I'd switch to...
...........................Friedel
.............Collins..................Cuellar
Walker.................Reo Coker..............Delph
................Makoun...............Downing
........Agbonlahor.......Bent........Young
Or summat.
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I would go:
Friedel
Walker Cuellar Collins Young
Albrighton Makoun NRC Young
Gabby Bent
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No Downing?
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I would go:
Friedel
Walker Cuellar Collins Young
Albrighton Makoun NRC Young
Gabby Bent
I'd go with that, except i'd have Heskey for Gabby, he caused them all sorts of problems last time.
Gabby can come off the bench, if needed.
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I'd swap Reo-Coker for Delph in that first line up Maz.
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No Downing?
TinkerFletch and TinkerRisso are rotating the squad.
A settled 11 is SOOOO last season.
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I can't see us losing this, but a draw while not being catastrophic would not see us pulling away from trouble which we urgently need to do. I reckon a scrappy 2-1, which will do.
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I'd swap Reo-Coker for Delph in that first line up Maz.
I would too. I just dont think he will.
He'll want to protect the back four and Reo Coker is currently the best at doing that even though Delph would add more control and better distribution whilst still having a tenacious edge in midfield.
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We HAVE to win. I'm shitting it already.
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Why have I got a nagging feeling that he'll start with Pires?
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Why have I got a nagging feeling that he'll start with Pires?
I had the same. Oh well, it could be argued that he's earned it after we demolished Blackburn.
I wouldn't listen to it, but it could be argued.
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2 shit defences.
3-3
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Why have I got a nagging feeling that he'll start with Pires?
Agree, he'll certainly do something "left field" and we'll all be going WTF !! at 2pm on Saturday
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Win this and we are guaranteed to be at least 4 points clear of 3rd bottom, as opposed to the 2 we are currently.
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Makoun is gonna have a blinder
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Makoun is gonna have a blinder
He's certainly due one. We'll need a bit more than square balls from him on saturday
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I reckon it'll be 2-2. We'll be winning 2-1 up until injury time and they'll pop one in from a corner.
I'd start with NRC and Makoun in the middle i think. I just hope we get as many chances as we did up at Bolton, and this time put them away.
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Bloody hate this game almost as much as the Blues one, 3-2 to us, Downing, Bent, Clark
Clark is suspended I believe
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Bloody hate this game almost as much as the Blues one, 3-2 to us, Downing, Bent, Clark
Clark is suspended I believe
yep out for 2 games
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3-0 Bent, Makoun and Gabby. My first trip to VP since Everton last season, can't wait. Is the Holte pub/suite still just for season ticket holders or can anybody go in?
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Makoun is gonna have a blinder
He's certainly due one. We'll need a bit more than square balls from him on saturday
Wiki demonstrating negativity at it's finest.
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It is against the law for us to lose to Wolves, so 3-1 to us.
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Makoun is gonna have a blinder
He's certainly due one. We'll need a bit more than square balls from him on saturday
Wiki demonstrating negativity at it's finest.
Fair comment about makoun I thought
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The Dogheads are garbage and going down.
If we attack like we did against Bolton, then we'll smash them into next week.
Carlos in the middle to deal with the high ball.
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Makoun is gonna have a blinder
He's certainly due one. We'll need a bit more than square balls from him on saturday
?
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Makoun is gonna have a blinder
He's certainly due one. We'll need a bit more than square balls from him on saturday
Wiki demonstrating negativity at it's finest.
Fair comment about makoun I thought
He's certainly due one is a fair comment about a player who has played a 4 games for our club and has been suspended for the last 3 games? Ok then. I think he has looked very promising, a very good footballer. I don't buy into this "he only passes it side ways" either, it's nonsense IMO.
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I just think that Wolves are more in their 'comfort zone' with this type of match. They won't bottle it and I think we will. It's going to the wire.
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One all. We shall score first, just before the interval, and Wolves will equalise with 5 minutes to go.
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Bottle has nothing to do with it, quality does.
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3-0 Bent, Makoun and Gabby. My first trip to VP since Everton last season, can't wait. Is the Holte pub/suite still just for season ticket holders or can anybody go in?
Anyone, get there early. Although I've never been.
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No defenders but they have no attackers of note, so it is down to who has enough bottle (obvious gag involving Collins and Dunne avoided) so scrappy 1-0 win with Bent the obvious scorer!
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Any news on the defence yet?
Cuellar, Clark and Collins out, with Luke and Dunne doubtful. Is that about where we are at the moment?
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Cuellar and Collins may be fit I believe
Dunne, Young & Clark are defo out
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Luke Young is out? Cockfosters!
Right so. That's Baker or Delph at left back then.
Thanks again must go to Stephen Warnock for being a little weasel in this time where we really could do without it. Fuck you, you scouse arsehole.
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Never trust a scouser
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Must win. 2-1 Villa.
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Well we get to welcome Phil Dowd back to Villa Park.
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Well we get to welcome Phil Dowd back to Villa Park.
I've been waiting for this, he is such a prick. I looked at the fixtures last night and thought we would probably get 12 points from the remaining fixtures, with this being a win. But with that cock in the middle you never know what's going to happen.
2-1 tackles flying in from all angles and a tense finish.
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Why have I got a nagging feeling that he'll start with Pires?
Agree, he'll certainly do something "left field" and we'll all be going WTF !! at 2pm on Saturday
It's virtually impossible to guess his starting 11.
Even Bradley might be in there.
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Big game for big points. Cannot see us keeping a clean sheet.
Hoping for 2.1 - I think it could be 2.2
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Bloody hate this game almost as much as the Blues one, 3-2 to us, Downing, Bent, Clark
Clark is suspended I believe
I knew he was suspended and still had him down to score, rookie mistake
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Still think we ballsed up by not buying a left back in the window.
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I'm sure we'd liked to have done. Perhaps there's a target lined up for the summer and it was deemed a calculated risk to crack on with what we've got.
It was disappointing though. I felt we really needed a new keeper too as a matter of urgency but, oh well, it was still better than I thought it would be.
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Still think we ballsed up by not buying a left back in the window.
Baker will be fine there
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I expect us to win. By one goal will be fine.
However, I also expect us to concede. I am OK about this, as long as they score from a rip-roaring 135 yard Chris Nicholl* shot and not a fucking set-piece. I also want them to score after 15 minutes of play and, at the latest, 15 minutes before the end of normal time. I could even live with a draw if that happened.**
* I mean Chris Nicholl 'style', he won't be playing for them, silly!
**I am fibbing in this sentence.
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massive game,think we will win 3-2!
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Still think we ballsed up by not buying a left back in the window.
I agree, although he did try and get Wayne Bridge apparantley, but that looks like being a lucky escape the way he's playing.
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We just can't keep a clean sheet so i go for 2-2 draw with Young and Bent scoring.
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I don't want to be the bearer of bad tidings but I turn 30 on the Tuesday following this game and we've had some shocking results on or around the 22nd. Last season it came slap bang in the middle between a 2-2 home nailbiter against the Dogheads and a pathetic 1-1 against Sunderland, and we ended the week shipping 7 at Stamford Bridge. The season before, we lost 5-0 at Anfield. The season before that, 1-0 loss at home to Sunderland...it's fair to say I'm not looking forward to the end of this week for a fair few reasons.
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I hit 40 this Wednesday. It's all downhill for me but I'm hoping for a good result to start my mid-life crisis off.
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The Dogheads are garbage and going down.
If we attack like we did against Bolton, then we'll smash them into next week.
Carlos in the middle to deal with the high ball.
Wolves's recent form dosen't suggest they're garbage tbh.
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I don't want to be the bearer of bad tidings but I turn 30 on the Tuesday following this game and we've had some shocking results on or around the 22nd. Last season it came slap bang in the middle between a 2-2 home nailbiter against the Dogheads and a pathetic 1-1 against Sunderland, and we ended the week shipping 7 at Stamford Bridge. The season before, we lost 5-0 at Anfield. The season before that, 1-0 loss at home to Sunderland...it's fair to say I'm not looking forward to the end of this week for a fair few reasons.
Sorry mate, but for the sake of the Villa and to end this spiral of despair that you've caused you have to top yourself.
Just realised that if you do it I'm going to be held up as an internet fiend.
Right, think of all the good things - puppies, chips, Toby Jugs and the like - and you'll soon decide that life is worth living.
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4 - 2
Downing, Bent, Albrighton & Walker
Must win game, but having heard now how long it is since we lost to them, I'm now starting to worry ... all good things must come to an end..... here's hoping it's not this week though ???
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5-1 Strumping. Bent 3, Walker, Downing.
Carry on our fine attacking form from Blackburn and Bolton and finish our chances.
(but it is only Monday...I'll be going for a nervy 2-1 win come kick off)
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It is against the law for us to lose to Wolves, so 3-1 to us.
And 16 games unbeaten in the league against Blose, Baggies and Wolves.
Just put the kiss of death on that!
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I'll be lumping on more than 2.5 goals again in this game.
I dont think Makoun will play. Houllier will surely keep Delph in the side after backing him midweek. Reo Coker and Delph did well in Bolton anyway. Thought Albrighton was superb against Wolves, Im not Downing's biggest fan but despite missing a sitter he also did well. Will be the same midfield/forward 6
Warnock is apparently back in the squad. Baker made two bad mistakes last time at set piece time. Hopefully has learned his lesson.
Id say it will be
Friedel
Walker, Cuellar, Baker, Warnock
Albrighton, Reo Coker, Delph, Downing
----------A Young----------------
-----------Bent--------------------
Hopefully Collins can make it back with Baker moved to the left but Id say he wont make the squad after the messing midweek. Cant believe Luke Young is injured again. I wouldnt have minded keeping him on at a reduced wage as cover for next season but if he is always injured there is no point. This is not a game for Herd or Delph at full back. Warnock will be looking to put himself in the shop window so he might use his experience well. O'Hara has been good for Wolves, Doyle was very poor in the away game but suspect he will cause us problems this time. Jarvis will certainly test Walker and I would be worried there if a succession of crosses makes it way into our box with Friedel rooted to his line.
On the other hand Wolves are terrible at the back with a poor keeper to boot. With a healthy supply of possession I think we will definitely score 2 at least. I'll go for a 3-2 win.
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If Warnock is in the squad, I'm guessing Cuellar & Collins are out and its desperate measures
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Still think we ballsed up by not buying a left back in the window.
Baker will be fine there
Don't rate him from what I've seen so far.
3-1 Villa
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I never thought Baker would make it at Villa but he's done O.K considering.
It's very difficult for a youngster coming into a defence that is very unsettled and unsure of itself.
That said, I'd rather he was on the bench. Maybe Warnock has made amends (I doubt it) and is in because we actually need him and have no left back otherwise.
I still want him gone come the summer and I'm sure he will be but it would be nice if he decided to earn his huge pay and maybe even, as a treat, not play like a spanner into the bargain.
In which case a back 4 of Walker, Cuellar, Collins and Warnock would do nicely. It also offers the symmetry of W,C,C,W which is very important.
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Given gerard's propensity for surprises, I think he'll play Makoun and Pires in the middle.
Hopefully Collins and Cuellar will both make it. Wolves throw in plenty of crosses.
My only prediction is that it will be nervy - for both sides.
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I never thought Baker would make it at Villa but he's done O.K considering.
It's very difficult for a youngster coming into a defence that is very unsettled and unsure of itself.
That said, I'd rather he was on the bench. Maybe Warnock has made amends (I doubt it) and is in because we actually need him and have no left back otherwise.
I still want him gone come the summer and I'm sure he will be but it would be nice if he decided to earn his huge pay and maybe even, as a treat, not play like a spanner into the bargain.
In which case a back 4 of Walker, Cuellar, Collins and Warnock would do nicely. It also offers the symmetry of W,C,C,W which is very important.
..and from that only half of our back 4 is toilet, but not the one that is W.C.
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Baker did not play CB at Bolton, Luke Young filled in there
Having said that Baker seems to have the physique/height to fill in at CB if we are desperate
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Baker is naturally a centre half.
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5-2 villa
Bent 11 Mountain Man 8
Downing 27 Toothless Man 89
Cuellar 49
Young 69
albrighton 82
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If Mountain Man and Toothless man score won't they be disallowed as surely fans aren't allowed on the pitch!
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If I was a betting man, I'd deffo put some wonga on Benty scoring on Saturday ....
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If Cuellar and Collins are fit I'd play them and put Clark in at LB. NRC to play aswell and that might give us a chance of a clean sheet.
2-0 Villa.
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Clark is suspended
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The Dogheads are garbage and going down.
If we attack like we did against Bolton, then we'll smash them into next week.
Carlos in the middle to deal with the high ball.
Wolves's recent form dosen't suggest they're garbage tbh.
Beaten Man City, Man utd & Chelsea at Home
Won at Anfield
The worrying thing for me is that with a MM team you know they will roll their sleeves up and have a good day whereas we would try and kick them when they weren't looking then run off
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have a good go even
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Must admit, I do find the decision to increase Lichaj's loan spell at Leeds until the end of the season a strange one, given the situation we're in defensively. Couldn't we at least have called him back for this one to provide cover on the bench, then extended the deal after that? I'd rather have him on the bench as cover than Herd. Lichaj can play all across the back four.
If Collins doesn't make it, I'd have Warnock back in, Baker at CB with King Carlos. Time to swallow the pride with Warnock; tell him he's back in, playing for a summer move.
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There will be plenty of goals on Saturday. We simply have to win but I am not sure that we will. I am plumping for two all.
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I'd be willing to forgive and forget with Warnock and Beye so long as they are willing to make amends depending on how bad we are for injuries and what exactly went on with the Chuckle brothers and Sid.
I'd go for a three of Delph, NRC and Makoun in midfield but will expect Le Gaffeur to leave out Delph and keep the three wingers in the team.
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With the makeshift defence and off-field ructions think this is going to be very nervy. We absolutely must put our chances away as I can't see us keeping a clean sheet even against the Dingles. I'll go for 4-2 to us, more in hope than expectation
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If Collins and Cuellar don't make it I guess it will have to be Walker, Beye, Baker and Warnock/Delph then, oh dear. Would like to see Delph and Makoun in the middle. 1-0 Gabby.
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Skybet have 10/3 for a Wolves win and 5/2 for the draw.
Clearly they don't know how wanky we are.
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"the chances of Villa keeping a clean sheet
is a million to one they say"
(to the tune of that "HG Wells attack from Mars" 70's concept album whose name escapes me)
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we really need to win this.i can see plenty of goals.if cueller and collins are fit 3-1 to the mighty villa ,if not then god fucking help us !!!!
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Sorry to be a bit negative but with our defensive problems i can see us losing this one. I hope not but i can see us losing 2-1.
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I'm starting to think that perhaps a back-line of:
Walker Makoun Petrov Delph
wouldn't be TERRIBLE if we become desperate. I think I'd rather have experience than the promised 'talent' of the likes of Baker and Lowry, no disrespect to them of course.
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If we desperate for bodies at the back then Emile would do a decent job
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Depending on how stretched we are I'd go for Heskey. Bradley might do a job there too as he is over six foot.
Makoun and Petrov are too short to play as centre backs and certainly to play as a partnership.
As long as Cuellar is fit we'll be fine. If he's not then we are fucked. We can get away with an inexperienced or out of position player next to him or another experienced centre half.
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"the chances of Villa keeping a clean sheet
is a million to one they say"
(to the tune of that "HG Wells attack from Mars" 70's concept album whose name escapes me)
War of the Worlds.
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I'm starting to think that perhaps a back-line of:
Walker Makoun Petrov Delph
Have you been on a "Leo sayer" at Cheltenham all day ?
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Balls out attacking from the off will shellshock the Dogheads.
7-2 to us.
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2-2 We'll be the better side.
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Fuck the defence...let's play to score more goals than the opposition! ATTACK! ATTACK! ATTACK!
We look good going forward and Wolves just aren't that good.
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Think Cuellar and Collins will be fit. Baker and Walker will make it a solid defence. Villa 2-0 Bent Downing ...........
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I'll be having a few quid on the last goal coming past 80 minutes.
That's pretty much free money.
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I'm starting to think that perhaps a back-line of:
Walker Makoun Petrov Delph
wouldn't be TERRIBLE if we become desperate. I think I'd rather have experience than the promised 'talent' of the likes of Baker and Lowry, no disrespect to them of course.
I think that is unequivocally the worst suggestion I have ever heard in my life.
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I'm starting to think that perhaps a back-line of:
Walker Makoun Petrov Delph
wouldn't be TERRIBLE if we become desperate. I think I'd rather have experience than the promised 'talent' of the likes of Baker and Lowry, no disrespect to them of course.
I think that is unequivocally the worst suggestion I have ever heard in my life.
Petrov at centre half? I don't think so somehow.
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I'm starting to think that perhaps a back-line of:
Walker Makoun Petrov Delph
wouldn't be TERRIBLE if we become desperate. I think I'd rather have experience than the promised 'talent' of the likes of Baker and Lowry, no disrespect to them of course.
I think that is unequivocally the worst suggestion I have ever heard in my life.
Petrov as a CH?
I've heard it all now
he can't even play as a midfielder
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I'd play Barry Bannan in central defence before Petrov to be honest. I'd probably just go three at the back and ask them to all spread out a bit and run faster before getting Stan involved.
However, it wouldn't suprise me if Houllier has considered it.
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It will be a miracle if anybody on here calls the starting 11 correctly.
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It will be a miracle if anybody on here calls the starting 11 correctly.
Agreed. You can bank on Friedel, Walker, Downing, Young, Makoun and Bent starting and be fairly confident on Reo Coker and Cuellar, after that it's anybody's guess.
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I'm telling ya (Shaggy)
Pires will start.
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Villa 3-1 is 12/1 with Paddy Power. I will be having some of that
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This has to be a home win. Simply has to be.
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3-1 Us Friedel
Walker Collins Cuellar Baker
Makoun NRC
Downing Albrighton
Young
Bent
Subs Delph,Pires,Heskey,Warnock.Marshall,Bradley
Surely to Christ this team can beat Wolves
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3-1 Us
Walker Collins Cuellar Baker
Makoun NRC
Downing Albrighton
Young
Bent
Subs Delph,Pires,Heskey,Warnock.Marshall,Bradley
Surely to Christ this team can beat Wolves
A GK would help buf if its this team will be confident !
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3-1 Us Friedel
Walker Collins Cuellar Baker
Makoun NRC
Downing Albrighton
Young
Bent
Subs Delph,Pires,Heskey,Warnock.Marshall,Bradley
Surely to Christ this team can beat Wolves
A GK would help buf if its this team will be confident !
Whoops !! Fixed ;)
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3-1 Us Friedel
Walker Collins Cuellar Baker
Makoun NRC
Downing Albrighton
Young
Bent
Subs Delph,Pires,Heskey,Warnock.Marshall,Bradley
Surely to Christ this team can beat Wolves
Is Clarke available ? If so I's swap him and Baker but otherwise thats the best team we can pick imho.
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3-1 Us Friedel
Walker Collins Cuellar Baker
Makoun NRC
Downing Albrighton
Young
Bent
Subs Delph,Pires,Heskey,Warnock.Marshall,Bradley
Surely to Christ this team can beat Wolves
Is Clarke available ? If so I's swap him and Baker but otherwise thats the best team we can pick imho.
No unfortunately not suspended for 2 games as has accumulated 10 yellows
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That team looks as good as anything we have played all season (except. Delph for NRC) Really like the the 3-1 odds of 12-1. So my prediction is guess ? 3-1 Bent Downing Albrighton. Doyle for them .......
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A bit of good news - Carlos has confirmed on a live web chat on the OS that he is "100% fit for Saturday".
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A bit of good news - Carlos has confirmed on a live web chat on the OS that he is "100% fit for Saturday".
That's a bonus.
I think we look a lot more solid with him in the middle.
I wonder if Collins will be fit?
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That is good news
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3-1 Us Friedel
Walker Collins Cuellar Baker
Makoun NRC
Downing Albrighton
Young
Bent
Subs Delph,Pires,Heskey,Warnock.Marshall,Bradley
Surely to Christ this team can beat Wolves
Yes it can, but come 2pm on Saturday afternoon, don't be at all surprised when you hear that he's picked Petrov and Bradley in midfield.
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A bit of good news - Carlos has confirmed on a live web chat on the OS that he is "100% fit for Saturday".
That's a bonus.
I think we look a lot more solid with him in the middle.
I wonder if Collins will be fit?
According to Physioroom Collins is out til 28th March
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Hopefully Carlos will get a run at centre back between now and end of the season, then we can truly assess his merits and see if he's worth a new deal.
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If Collins does not make it will he be tempted to play Emile back there - good on set pieces and not slow, might do well there. Or will it be Baker with Delph at left back? Or Warnock in at left back - sensationally scoring the winner and thus ensuring us breathing space?
I would start Pires after Blackburn, everything good went through the old coot, and he has the nous at home to dictate a game clearly. I would be tempted to keep Makoun benched, and replace Pires with him on 60 or so - been a while since he played and NRC deserves his spot.
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If you haven't already seen the thread, Phil Dowd is ref.
This game is turning into Wembley Revenge/Save our Season/"Game of the Shite defence"
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Makoun has to start.
Wolves are a much better team than Blackburn despite the league placings.
Makoun and NRC as a combo should have enough energy to combat O'Hara and Henry.
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5 minutes in Bent is clear on goal.......Jody Craddock the nearest defender 10 yards behind pulls out machine gun shooting Bent dead and seriously injuring a number of fans in the lower north stand....Referee Dowd awards penalty and gives Craddock yellow card.
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Do we know the outcome of the hearings at VP today about members of the defence?
(I tried to put this in as unexciting a way as possible - just thinking about saturday)
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Good news from Carlos, let's hope he is picked.
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Is anybody else surprised that West Midlands finest have allowed this game to go ahead at 3pm on a Saturday bearing in mind the fact that it's a derby and current circumstance ?
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Is anybody else surprised that West Midlands finest have allowed this game to go ahead at 3pm on a Saturday bearing in mind the fact that it's a derby and current circumstance ?
No.
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Is anybody else surprised that West Midlands finest have allowed this game to go ahead at 3pm on a Saturday bearing in mind the fact that it's a derby and current circumstance ?
Is it a derby in the traditional sense, though? Geographically, yes, but other than that, it doesn't really have much significance these days.
Although, I noticed the bloke over the road - who is an absolute dickhead - was wearing a Wolves shirt the other day. I might brick their coaches or something now.
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Is anybody else surprised that West Midlands finest have allowed this game to go ahead at 3pm on a Saturday bearing in mind the fact that it's a derby and current circumstance ?
It was a Saturday game last year if I remember rightly, but moved for TV. No recent history between us and Wolves so no obvious reason to move it.
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My only problem with Cuellar is his God awful ability when the ball is at his feet. Still, we need his defensive qualities right now.
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My only problem with Cuellar is his God awful ability when the ball is at his feet. Still, we need his defensive qualities right now.
If he's on the right side of centre then at least he can just give it to Walker, who can bomb up the wing.
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My only problem with Cuellar is his God awful ability when the ball is at his feet. Still, we need his defensive qualities right now.
If he's on the right side of centre then at least he can just give it to Walker, who can bomb up the wing.
True, but its his attempts at being able to 'give it' that worry me.
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3 - 0 Villa, Bent x2 and Downing.
The skies will clear, Spring will be celebrated and all will be well.
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Is anybody else surprised that West Midlands finest have allowed this game to go ahead at 3pm on a Saturday bearing in mind the fact that it's a derby and current circumstance ?
It was a Saturday game last year if I remember rightly, but moved for TV. No recent history between us and Wolves so no obvious reason to move it.
Thought there was trouble at molineux earlier this season ? I'm delighted it's 3pm just surprises me as it's a derby 6 pointer and its been a big drinking week in the Mids already
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There was a car in front of me with a Wolves sticker in the window on the journey to work this morning. So as I overtook him, I flicked him the Vs.
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If it was two V's he would have thought you were just showing a 'W'. If you flicked your fingers 4 times he would have seen 'WW@ and thought you were a feloow Wolves fan. he's on 'Bully For Wolves' or some such fansite enthusing about being passed in his car by a fellow delirious Wolves on on the way to work this morning.
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1-1
Wolves have a little more fight about them.
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Cuellar's fit, confirmed on the OS. Shame we have to play Collins, but there we go.
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Cuellar's fit, confirmed on the OS. Shame we have to play Collins, but there we go.
Don't count your chickens, there's a day's training tomorrow to survive yet. I'd give them the day off.
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Cuellar's fit, confirmed on the OS. Shame we have to play Collins, but there we go.
Don't count your chickens, there's a day's training tomorrow to survive yet. I'd give them the day off.
Players left with some freetime to fill? Christ, i think we've seen enopugh of that recently.
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Cuellar's fit, confirmed on the OS. Shame we have to play Collins, but there we go.
Don't count your chickens, there's a day's training tomorrow to survive yet. I'd give them the day off.
Players left with some freetime to fill? Christ, i think we've seen enopugh of that recently.
In fairness, I'd say Cuellar is more likely to, say, spend a nice quiet day with the family rather than go out on a massive bender, behave like a total bastard and. . . (rant continues until the Transfer Thread of Summer 2150)
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Downing 1st goal in a 3-1 win is 80/1. Very Tempting
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I just tried to buy a ticket for this match at the shop in town, and was told to come back later as the only person in the shop who can negotiate the herculean task of administering match tickets is having his lunch.
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I am very worried about this game - must win for me and I just hope that the squad can pull together and get the job done
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Collins ruled out of the Wolves game.
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Back 4 of Walker Cuellar Baker Warnock perhaps ?
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Back 4 of Walker Cuellar Baker Warnock perhaps ?
No way will Houllier play Warnock and I wouldn't want the little prick around the team anyway.
Delph will fill in there, not ideal, but he can do a job there.
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Walker Cuellar Baker Delph
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I don't think this fixture has ever been a Sat 3pm kick-off during the Preemier League years. Always been on't telly.
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Collins ruled out of the Wolves game.
Injury ? Or shenanigans related ?
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3 - 0 Villa, Bent x2 and Downing.
The skies will clear, Spring will be celebrated and all will be well.
100% Newbie !!!
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http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2318452,00.html
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Delph, Cuellar, Baker and Delph then for sure it would appear, althoughknowing Gerard we could have Makoun in there, or Bradley even.
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Or Emile a la Dion Dublin?
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I think we will batter them to fuck. Then again, it has been a long day and I am halfway through my first pint.
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As i'm taking my son to the game for an 8th birthday 'treat' (he'll learn) i'd like to see a thumping win with Marc Albrighton playing a starring role but I fully expect a 1-0 defeat with a goal by Richard Stearman if indeed he plays for Wolves.
After the match I promised him he could try to get autographs but suspect I will be cold, wet and even more pissed off than normal and he will fail to attract the attention of any of the players apart from Richard Dunne who runs off with Billy's Haribos. Bastard.
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*Puts helmet on*
We will lose 3-1 (Our defence and Karl Henry smashing us off the ball will fuck us over)
Don't want it to happen but just cant see us doing them with how pumped up they will be.
Can also see the chants turning anti-Houllier again.
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Score draw - 1-1 or 2-2. We will go down to the wire this season.
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Clearly bored I just added up the available tickets on the officail sites seating chart and made it 1709. Should be a sell out.
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You could make a start on my wife's tax return if you like
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The Baggies match was a 3pm kick off too.
Going to be a tense nervy affair.
Will we be up for the fight? Let's bloody hope so.
First goal is KEY.
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MOTD will angle it as the relagation fight programme.
Three six pointers - Us v Wolves, Blackburn v Blackpool, Wigan v Blose.
Home win, draw, home win would be the ultimate threesome. But AMmnda Seyfried, Kelly Brook and myself might just beat that.
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Three home wins for me, only beaten by a Corrie special featuring Tina O'Brien, Cheryl the former lap-dancer and me.
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I can not contemlate the reaction there would be if we lose this, With our defence anything is possible, Mcarthy will have done his homework and know that we are likely to concede at least 1, he will tell his players to defend deep and wait for their chance, we might scrape it, but I think a draw more likely.
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If Wolves come and go for it then it might help us out a bit.
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I remember watching the Albion v Wolves game a few weeks ago and if it had it not been for Smethwick's forward line being so hopeless, they would have won the game easily. I think we can handle Doyle or Fletcher, it's Ebanks Blake i worry about, he's their best finisher.
The first time i saw Baker was in a pre-season freindly at Walsall a couple of season's ago and he played centre half and he looked comfortable enough. I definatley be putting Warnock or Beye on the bench though, he'd be mad not too really.
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Delph, Cuellar, Baker and Delph then for sure it would appear, althoughknowing Gerard we could have Makoun in there, or Bradley even.
Delph is good but that good?
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He plays on the left, he plays on the right...
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Is anybody else surprised that West Midlands finest have allowed this game to go ahead at 3pm on a Saturday bearing in mind the fact that it's a derby and current circumstance ?
It was a Saturday game last year if I remember rightly, but moved for TV. No recent history between us and Wolves so no obvious reason to move it.
Thought there was trouble at molineux earlier this season ? I'm delighted it's 3pm just surprises me as it's a derby 6 pointer and its been a big drinking week in the Mids already
I think the EDL are in the City centre tomorrow as well.
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For me,
Friedel
Walker Cuellar Baker Warnock
Makoun Delph
Downing Ashley Albrighton
Bent.
If Warnock doesn't play then Delph at LB and NRC next Makoun.
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Carlos is fit, good news.
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If we do win, it will be the first time under Houllier that we've achieved back to back wins at home.
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Our defence will not be able to cope tomorrow, I'm afraid, just like last time at Bolton.
I've been saying all season that Houllier is going to take us down , we seem to all be sleepwalking into this, we can have as many good forward players as we like, if we can't defend we'll lose.
The only option we have is to bring back more of Houllier's self-imposed outcasts, Beye and Warnock, I said this should have happened weeks ago and everyone on here said I was crazy, funny now everybody seems to be in agreement.
If he brings those two back into the team we may have a chance, if not, I think we'll get beat.
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I really hope he keeps Bradley & Pires away from the pitch, really not a game for either of them, which means he'll probably start them both
Good call re Beye & Warnock, we have little option. I would also drop Friedel
Walker Cuellar Baker Warnock
or
Walker Cuellar Beye Warnock
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Walker Cuellar Baker Delph
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Lawro speaks :
Wolves are unbeaten in three and they were really impressive against Tottenham last time out. While they are still in the bottom three, I've got a sneaky feeling they might just be all right. They're good in wide areas and create enough chances - it's converting those chances into goals that has been their undoing all season.
It would appear Villa might have some internal problems after Richard Dunne and James Collins were disciplined over an incident last week, and that's the last thing you need at this stage of the campaign.
But they're at home, Wolves don't have a great away record and, although it'll be a West Midlands derby with no quarter asked or given, I think Villa should win this one by a couple.
Prediction: 2-0
Lawro is obviously oblivious to our defensive problems
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Lawro hasn't got a clue, otherwise he wouldn't put us down for a clean sheet.
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The curse of Lawro !!!
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Ideal game for Wolves you'd have thought. We're under a cloud at the back on top of being shaky there anyway. With Jarvis on one side, and plenty of movement up top, then we need to be at our very best. That means whoever we have at our disposal needs to used.
I wouldn't want to see Delph at left back and have to mark Jarvis. He'd do okay but is not a left-back for a reason. His best work is in midfield and so, although it is also a risk as he's not played for a while - if he is fit, then Marnock needs to be given a chance to save his career, and reputation.
Walker is obvious for right-back and then its Cuellar and whoever else is free of injury. I wouldn't trust Beye but simply because I never have. So, if not Beye/Cuellar, then who is free? Baker? If so, then so be it. As long as Cuellar talks to him.
Difficult game for us and whoever is protecting the back 4 needs to be our man of the match defensively. Hopefully the MoM will be one of the forwards, though, for obvious reasons.
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We need Cuellar to play out of his skin.
(Not literally, that would be hideous)
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Lawro is obviously oblivious to our defensive problems
As well as a number of other things.
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As long as Cuellar talks to him.
In Spanish 8)
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Ideal game for Wolves you'd have thought. We're under a cloud at the back on top of being shaky there anyway. With Jarvis on one side, and plenty of movement up top, then we need to be at our very best. That means whoever we have at our disposal needs to used.
I wouldn't want to see Delph at left back and have to mark Jarvis. He'd do okay but is not a left-back for a reason. His best work is in midfield and so, although it is also a risk as he's not played for a while - if he is fit, then Marnock needs to be given a chance to save his career, and reputation.
Walker is obvious for right-back and then its Cuellar and whoever else is free of injury. I wouldn't trust Beye but simply because I never have. So, if not Beye/Cuellar, then who is free? Baker? If so, then so be it. As long as Cuellar talks to him.
Difficult game for us and whoever is protecting the back 4 needs to be our man of the match defensively. Hopefully the MoM will be one of the forwards, though, for obvious reasons.
It's a tough game as its a local derby but Wolves have picked up 5 points in 14 aways games and scored 10 goals in the process. We may have problems at the back but they're not good either.
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No, they're not good. That's why they are where they are. Sadly, neither is our defence, which is why we are always one poor display away from being dragged back into the relegation scrap.
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No, they're not good. That's why they are where they are. Sadly, neither is our defence, which is why we are always one poor display away from being dragged back into the relegation scrap.
Not expecting us to keep a clean sheet but I think we will out score them.
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That's the thing with us right now. We are simply trying to do a Keegan type thing of trying to just score more than the opposition and lets just hope the other end stays tight.
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I agree with Peter, this chap Marnock seems our best option at left back. Whoever he is.
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Note to self
RE-READ EVERYTHING. THINGS WON'T BE ALLOWED TO SLIDE BY HERE.
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After some consideration, I'd pick Heskey at CH.
I think he's played there a couple of times for Wigan so it's not a completely strange position for him.
Just tell him to win everything in the air and Carlos will cover and track Doyle. Would pick Baker over Delph at LB although in fairness I think either are going to struggle big time against Jarvis.
The good news is Wolves can't defend either, even with their first choice back 4 so think we'll win 3-2.
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Clearly bored I just added up the available tickets on the officail sites seating chart and made it 1709. Should be a sell out.
That sort of dedication would get you far in the GTC League!
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That's the thing with us right now. We are simply trying to do a Keegan type thing of trying to just score more than the opposition and lets just hope the other end stays tight.
With 6 defenders unavailable or not being considered I don't see we have much choice.
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Clearly bored I just added up the available tickets on the officail sites seating chart and made it 1709. Should be a sell out.
That sort of dedication would get you far in the GTC League!
So, what's our capacity?
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Clearly bored I just added up the available tickets on the officail sites seating chart and made it 1709. Should be a sell out.
That sort of dedication would get you far in the GTC League!
So, what's our capacity?
Well I started to count the seats once. All I can say is that it is more than 17.
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After some consideration, I'd pick Heskey at CH.
I think he's played there a couple of times for Wigan so it's not a completely strange position for him.
Just tell him to win everything in the air and Carlos will cover and track Doyle. Would pick Baker over Delph at LB although in fairness I think either are going to struggle big time against Jarvis.
The good news is Wolves can't defend either, even with their first choice back 4 so think we'll win 3-2.
I think Heskey would be great at CH
Just tell him that he is attacking the goal he is really defending and the ball will go nowhere fucking near it
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After some consideration, I'd pick Heskey at CH.
I think he's played there a couple of times for Wigan so it's not a completely strange position for him.
Just tell him to win everything in the air and Carlos will cover and track Doyle. Would pick Baker over Delph at LB although in fairness I think either are going to struggle big time against Jarvis.
The good news is Wolves can't defend either, even with their first choice back 4 so think we'll win 3-2.
I think Heskey would be great at CH
Just tell him that he is attacking the goal he is really defending and the ball will go nowhere fucking near it
Problem is he'll miss every ball knocked into the box also so his usefullness will be somewhat negated.
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Redd Pepper (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2318801,00.html)
One of the biggest names in Hollywood will be appearing at Villa Park for the big derby match with Wolves.
You may not know the name Redd Pepper - but you'll certainly recognise the voice.
Pepper is a voice actor, notable for his work providing theatrical trailers for movies such as Amistad, The Blair Witch Project, Men in Black, Independence Day, Boogie Nights and Armageddon.
Since the death of the leading light in voice work Don LaFontaine, Pepper has become the main man when it comes to booming brilliance.
His first job was at a McDonalds restaurant after which he spent six months as a fireman and then became a train driver on the London Underground.
It was in 1996 that a television executive passenger, hearing his amazing voice on the loudspeaker on one of his trains offered him his card - and the rest is history.
Virtually overnight Pepper became the voice of the Sci-Fi Channel in Europe.
The more his deep bass voice was broadcast, the more in demand it became.
Since then, he has become known as 'Mr Movie Trailer Man' from the sheer number of Hollywood blockbusters his voice has trailed.
After providing numerous voiceovers for TV channels and adverts initially, he began doing movie trailers, with his first being Space Jam in 1996.
Pepper - a claret and blue fanatic from an early age - always harboured a dream to do the announcing at a Villa match and that will be realised when Wolves come to town at the weekend.
He will also be interviewed on AVTV about his career and his support of Villa so stay tuned for more as we get it.
(http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2318801,00.html)
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Interesting Leeg. You survived your 40th then.
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I think the game will hinge, must as last week, on whether we take our chances. If we do then it should be a comfortable win. At the end of the day, it is a lot easier to knock the confidence out of a side by scoring your chances and putting the game to bed. Get a good 2-3 goals up and we will close it out. Miss a lot of chances it will help their confidence and dent ours. I feel quite good about it though, maybe 4-2 in a bit of a fest going forward. The other thing IF Wolves put Jarvis down their right then if we can get Delph forward, he might spend more of the game going backwards than forwards. Stick Makoun and Reo Coker in front of the back 4 and we will be ok.
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Hopefully Bent will take more of his chances tomorrow
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we're going to approach this like we did Blackburn. They'll come to defend, and pinch something on the break. They know we'll be expected to take the game to them, and they'll know we aren't exactly watertight at the back. However, if we can take our early chances then they won't have the firepower to stay with us irrespective of our defensive issues. They have a miserable away record, and our home form hasn't been that bad. I think 3-1 to us, with Downing and Bent among the scorers.
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Heskey at centre back conjures up images of him mistiming tackles giving away free-kicks and penalties. He doesn't have the tact for that responsibility.
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It's all very noble of GH to keep Beye and Warnock out of the picture, but at the end of the day they are paid a king's ransom and are employees of AVFC. This pig-headed stance by GH is threatening our status in the Premier League. We need experience for this crucial run-in not the likes of Chris Herd at this stage. Houllier is a joke!
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Last time Warnock played was for the Reserves against Wigan where he gave away a free kick which they scored from and was doing this in the first team regularly prior to being dropped.Do we need that sort of experience ?
Walker Cuellar Baker Delph
NRC Makoun to provide some protection
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It's all very noble of GH to keep Beye and Warnock out of the picture, but at the end of the day they are paid a king's ransom and are employees of AVFC. This pig-headed stance by GH is threatening our status in the Premier League. We need experience for this crucial run-in not the likes of Chris Herd at this stage. Houllier is a joke!
I actually thought Herd did well against Man city
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There was a car in front of me with a Wolves sticker in the window on the journey to work this morning. So as I overtook him, I flicked him the Vs.
*Applause*
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It's all very noble of GH to keep Beye and Warnock out of the picture, but at the end of the day they are paid a king's ransom and are employees of AVFC. This pig-headed stance by GH is threatening our status in the Premier League. We need experience for this crucial run-in not the likes of Chris Herd at this stage. Houllier is a joke!
They're a pair of wankers who cause more harm to our defence than good.
I'd pick two traffic cones in front of them.
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It's all very noble of GH to keep Beye and Warnock out of the picture, but at the end of the day they are paid a king's ransom and are employees of AVFC. This pig-headed stance by GH is threatening our status in the Premier League. We need experience for this crucial run-in not the likes of Chris Herd at this stage. Houllier is a joke!
I actually thought Herd did well against Man city
He did well considering Fonz offered him very little support
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I'm worried about this. 2-3. Bent 12, Young pen 85. Doyle 41, Jarvis 51, Hunt 67.
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we're going to approach this like we did Blackburn. They'll come to defend, and pinch something on the break. They know we'll be expected to take the game to them, and they'll know we aren't exactly watertight at the back. However, if we can take our early chances then they won't have the firepower to stay with us irrespective of our defensive issues. They have a miserable away record, and our home form hasn't been that bad. I think 3-1 to us, with Downing and Bent among the scorers.
toronto, i think you have it spot on! I live in the black country and have seen most of their games this season! one aspect of the play that will work in our favour is our pitch, the great results they have picked up have been on a ploghed molineux field!
They will come to defend and if we get stearman and berra turning they wont be able to compete!
They are hard and physical and our defence is going to have to stay strong, as they will have pressure from wide areas but i dont expect them to get round the back too often! they love the hung up ball from wide towards a danger area to try to create confusion, but offensively i can see us dicking them!
i fucking hope we do or my life is hell!
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Training session (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/Gallery/0,,10265~2319293,00.html)
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A real must win 6-pointer here. A loss and a few other results would see us right in the brown sticky stuff and even the bottom 3 should worst come to worst. However a win could see us in the top half.
Personally I'm going for an unflattering 2-2 Exciting draw, which highlights our weakness at the back and our inability to make the most of our chances. I hope to be proven wrong.
Huge game. Up the Villa!
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Training session (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/Gallery/0,,10265~2319293,00.html)
They look happy enough to me, I thought training was shite nowadays?
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looking forward to this - local derby, 3pm sat kick off, no idea what will happen and taking my boy on the holte for the first time (regulars in the north stand).........does it get much better?? no can't wait!!
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I guess i should be looking forward to it, hope to take my one of my daughters to her first game, i get the feeling the wolves will be really up for this,
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This game is making me really nervous now. Lose and the consequences don't really bear thinking about. I think it'll be a draw now. A win would pleasantly surprise me.
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Lads we're playing Wolves not Barca!!
We're Aston Villa we will win, keep the faith.
3-1 Bent, Downing, Albrighton. Fletcher for them.
UTV!
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i've got a bad feeling and think wolves are going to nick this.
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I expect goals and a 3-2 villa win with a nervy finale , I think we will attack them and create chances but again I'm very worried about our keeper and defence every corner we concede.
Hold on to your hats - this will be a thriller!
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IF we match the dog heads for work rate, attitude then we should win, but if we turn up and and don't match them physically then we will be in trouble
Hopeful of a 2-1 win
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I had a dream last night that we beat Wolves 4-1. However the dream involved Reo Coker scoring a volley from about 70 yards out and then I ended up running away from a load of scary, malformed old people who were chasing me so I wouldn't read too much into it.
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Make sure you put money on 4-1 you'll be annoyed if you don't
I'm having Downing 3-1
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I had a dream last night that we beat Wolves 4-1. However the dream involved Reo Coker scoring a volley from about 70 yards out and then I ended up running away from a load of scary, malformed old people who were chasing me so I wouldn't read too much into it.
Were they asking you for £1.50 and holding a popular fanzine too?
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I had a dream last night that we beat Wolves 4-1. However the dream involved Reo Coker scoring a volley from about 70 yards out and then I ended up running away from a load of scary, malformed old people who were chasing me so I wouldn't read too much into it.
Were they asking you for £1.50 and holding a popular fanzine too?
Oh yes and Reo Coker was aiming at legion, that's why it went in.
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Spring is here ? Beautiful sunny morning in Brum
I'm sticking to 3-1 home win, Downing 1st goal at 80/1
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Are these butterflies in my stomach caused by excitement about going to a big match with a 3pm kick off on a beautiful spring day or by sheer terror at the prospect of dropping points?
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Is Luke Young available?
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Is Luke Young available?
Nope.Injured
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Is Luke Young available?
Nope.Injured
That should be,
Nope, "Injured".
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........And the result was?
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Looking forward immensely to a big sell-out game on a beautiful spring day, confident of a win.
The effort required to suppress thoughts of an alternative result is just about bearable.
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Can't remember last time I was this nervous before a game. I'm pacing around like a nutter trying to kill time before leaving.
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We've done the seat exchange thing today, moving from the Upper Holte to the lower Trinity as its my nans birthday and she'll be attending her first match for 12 years, her last one was a 1-4 home defeat to Coventry, eeek
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I am looking forward to this. A nice day for it and I am just getting to the pub for a cold one.
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Spring is here ? Beautiful sunny morning in Brum
I'm sticking to 3-1 home win, Downing 1st goal at 80/1
I have that, 110/1 at WillHill.
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Aston Villa 2-1 Dingles. Bent 42', A.Young 78' & Doyle 11'
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Time to head off towards the ground. Come on you Villa boys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
UTV
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We are going to win by a huge margin.
I hope.
COME ON VILLA!
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Any idea on attendance today?
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Bricking it now. Wolves will fight, up to us to man up to it I guess. We could do with Spurs scoring a couple against West Ham and Parker being crocked! Coming down to wishing ill on others as well as us doing ok!
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It seems to have been forgotten that we have by far the better players out of these two teams.
Having said that, we have better players than most teams in the league, yet we find ourselves in this position...
I was confident until I've processed what people are currently thinking..bastards!!!
Another half hour and I'm on my way to the game, come on Villa, Wolves are shit!
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So Wolves have never beaten us in the PL...hoping it's not today.
If the name of the game now is to avoid relegation thana draw would be OK as they are below us.
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I like the theory but not sure of the logic - pity there are 3 teams that get relegated!