UEFA Super Cup - Aug 12 - Red Bull Arena Salzburg

[ADVILLAFAN]

Of course, confusingly our win in 1983 was the 1982 European Super Cup.

[Crown Hill]

The Super Cup in 1983 was a mid season tie and meant a lot when we won it, even if the trophy was just a piece of polished wood. Barcelona certainly never treated the tie as a friendly, it was a battle to the death. Nowadays it's a glorified pre season curtain raiser, a European version of the community shield. That said, we'll be Supreme Champions of Europe if we win it, like we were in 1983

I agree that it was a battle in 1983 and there was a tremendous atmosphere at Villa Park. But, even though we were playing Barcelona, the attendance was only 31,000. Above average for that season, but still low when you consider the opposition and, the ground was bursting at the seams a few days later, when we hosted Wolves in the FA Cup.

...I was at that game, a crazy night. GBH being dished out in plain sight on the pitch if I remember. Seems completely mad that we had a bigger turnout for Wolves than Barcelona,  don't think that would happen now lol...

It was the 5th round. And the FA Cup was a huge deal then. Wolves must have had a large following. Even more in the seats in Trinity Road in those days as well.

Plus for quarter final v Dynamo Kiev I think we’d had 36k. So seems about par at the time given economic climate, hooliganism etc and the effects on gates.

[aldridgeboy]

That Barcelona team was so dirty. It was only my third or fourth match.
I think there was talk of them being banned from Europe because they were so dirty.

[cdbearsfan]

I think the new Club World Cup is, unpleasant as it may be, a major trophy. You have to play seven games and the winner gets £100 million. The new Intercontinental Cup can still be classed as a minor trophy as European teams only have to win one match.

I suppose I have to concede this one, as you say unpleasant as it may be. Is the  Intercontinental Cup the thing that FIFA still do between Europe and South America every year apart from the Club World Cup year? I’m so lost on how this is developing, bloody FIFA.

The Intercontinental Cup was an annual tie between the Champions of Europe and South America. It's the one in which we lost against Peñarol in 1982.

In 2000, FIFA introduced the Club World Cup, an eight team tournament with a group stage. The one that Man U played in when they withdrew from the FA Cup. This was supposed to be the start of a new annual tournament but clubs could never find room in the calendar for it.

The Intercontinental Cup carried on until 2004.

In 2005, FIFA introduced an updated Club World Cup featuring all the continental champions plus the champions of the host nation, with the European Champions receiving a bye to the semis. The Intercontinental Cup was scrapped.

2024 saw the Club World Cup expanded to 32 teams and changed to a once every four years tournament.

So that there would still be an annual tournament for confederation champions, FIFA created a new competition, the FIFA Intercontinental Cup. While having a similar name, this is classed as a separate competition from the "old" Intercontinental Cup. The format is the same as the 2005-2023 Club World Cup except that European teams now receive a bye to the final rather than the semi.

To add to the confusion, the old Intercontinental Cup was quite often known, informally, as "the Club World Cup" even though it never had this title officially, and both the Intercontinental Cup and Club World Cup were played in 1999/2000.

[PeterWithesShin]

There was probably a similar number of Villa fans at both games as there were pretty much no away fans for Barcelona and Wolves brought loads. For the FAC game the chairman's turnstiles were well used. Barcelona was the first time I stood on the Holte, Wolves was back in the seats with the family.

[AV82EC]

I think the new Club World Cup is, unpleasant as it may be, a major trophy. You have to play seven games and the winner gets £100 million. The new Intercontinental Cup can still be classed as a minor trophy as European teams only have to win one match.

I suppose I have to concede this one, as you say unpleasant as it may be. Is the  Intercontinental Cup the thing that FIFA still do between Europe and South America every year apart from the Club World Cup year? I’m so lost on how this is developing, bloody FIFA.

The Intercontinental Cup was an annual tie between the Champions of Europe and South America. It's the one in which we lost against Peñarol in 1982.

In 2000, FIFA introduced the Club World Cup, an eight team tournament with a group stage. The one that Man U played in when they withdrew from the FA Cup. This was supposed to be the start of a new annual tournament but clubs could never find room in the calendar for it.

The Intercontinental carried on until 2004.

In 2005, FIFA introduced an updated Club World Cup featuring all the continental champions plus the champions of the host nation, with the European Champions receiving a bye to the semis. The Intercontinental Cup was scrapped.

2024 saw the Club World Cup expanded to 32 teams and changed to a once every four years tournament.

So that there would still be an annual tournament for confederation champions, FIFA created a new competition, the FIFA Intercontinental Cup. While having a similar name, this is classed as a separate competion from the "old" Intercontinental Cup. The format is the same as the 2005-2023 Club World Cup except that European teams now receive a bye to the final rather than the semi.

To add to the confusion, the old Intercontinental Cup was quite often known, informally, as "the Club World Cup" even though it never had this title officially, and both the Intercontinental Cup and Club World Cup were played in 1999/2000.

Thanks.

[Chip Butty 111]

There was probably a similar number of Villa fans at both games as there were pretty much no away fans for Barcelona and Wolves brought loads. For the FAC game the chairman's turnstiles were well used. Barcelona was the first time I stood on the Holte, Wolves was back in the seats with the family.

I was bottom right of the Holte for the Barcelona game, and at the back of the Holte left side for Wolves. IIRC a load of Wolves came up Trinity Rd and goaded the Holte after everyone was in the ground,  and the were a few missiles thrown similar to the Legia Warsaw mayonnaise/ketchup fiasco.

[PeterWithesShin]

From memory there were a load of Wolves that didn't get in and so they spent the game on the hill, which led to fun after the game.

[Chip Butty 111]

Yes that was a very moody afternoon, helped by the fact a certain Mr Andy Gray was up front for them.

[eamonn]

Arsechesterpool! Fantastic portmanteauing. Maybe sneak in an L to the middle of Chester to encompass the King's Road (well, Fulham Rd actually) cretins.

[Percy McCarthy]

It's a trophy but not a major trophy, IMO. Better than the Charity Shield but way below winning the League Cup which is the smallest major trophy.

Yeah, reckon that's right.

I think that a "major trophy" requires more work than just winning a one-off invitational game, however hard you had to work to get the invitation in the first place.

Would still be great to win it though.

Some manager (maybe BFR or The Doc) once said the promotion play-off is the hardest competition in the world. “You have to play 46 games to get to the semi-final” (or summat like that) he said.

By that logic, this is a tough one too and I want four stars on the badge if we win it again.

[Skipper_The_Eyechild]

I would put the whole badge inside a massive star if we win this.

[pauliewalnuts]

Didn't want this to get lost in the match thread archive and i know it's not about the Super Cup, but fuck it, watch this kid's face and the people around him watching the final at the NIA

He's got hardly any views, but it's very, very real. That's what it's all about.

[pauliewalnuts]

Also ^^^ great New St Station content at the end.