UEFA Super Cup - Aug 12 - Red Bull Arena Salzburg

[AV82EC]

It's a trophy but not a major trophy, IMO. Better than the Charity Shield but way below winning the League Cup which is the smallest major trophy.

Is the correct answer.

[Crown Hill]

I don’t think we’ll sell out especially if it’s not included in criteria for future tickets. Spurs sold 4700 out of 6700 allocation but I would hope we might beat that.

When we won it in 83 it did seem a big deal but we were playing Barcelona and it was over two legs.

I think it probably equals a League Cup these days!

[Meanwood Villa]

It's a glorified friendly but fantastic to be involved

[Dogtanian]

More prize money than the league cup, of course. But I think a trophy with only two teams in it isn't really a proper one.

It's a nice to have, we need to go for it, but it shouldn't dampen our hunger for the actual meat of the season.

[AV82EC]

I don’t think we’ll sell out especially if it’s not included in criteria for future tickets. Spurs sold 4700 out of 6700 allocation but I would hope we might beat that.

When we won it in 83 it did seem a big deal but we were playing Barcelona and it was over two legs.

I think it probably equals a League Cup these days!

Equals a League Cup, are you mad.

I’m going to go all cdbf here and say anyone repeating this will be put on a list.

There are 6 major trophies you can win

Champions League
Premier League
Europa League
FA Cup
Europa Conference League
League Cup

these are the ones that count and then there are “minor” honours.

Minor Honours

Club World Cup (old or new format)
UEFA Super Cup
FA Community Shield
FA Youth Cup

We’ve won 21 Major Honours and I think 7 Minor Honours.

[PaulWinch again]

It's a glorified friendly but fantastic to be involved

If we lose it’s a glorified friendly, if we win it’s a significant trophy….

[Crown Hill]

I don’t think we’ll sell out especially if it’s not included in criteria for future tickets. Spurs sold 4700 out of 6700 allocation but I would hope we might beat that.

When we won it in 83 it did seem a big deal but we were playing Barcelona and it was over two legs.

I think it probably equals a League Cup these days!

Equals a League Cup, are you mad.

I’m going to go all cdbf here and say anyone repeating this will be put on a list.

There are 6 major trophies you can win

Champions League
Premier League
Europa League
FA Cup
Europa Conference League
League Cup

these are the ones that count and then there are “minor” honours.

Minor Honours

Club World Cup (old or new format)
UEFA Super Cup
FA Community Shield
FA Youth Cup

We’ve won 21 Major Honours and I think 7 Minor Honours.

Probably older than you and remember 83.

Of course it’s only my opinion but league cup is so devalued now other than the Wembley final that it probably needs putting out of its misery. It started as a poor imitation of the FA Cup anyway so it’s gone full circle.

And no I’m not mad thank you!

[cdbearsfan]

I think the new Club World Cup is, unpleasant as it may be, a major trophy. You have to play seven games and the winner gets £100 million. The new Intercontinental Cup can still be classed as a minor trophy as European teams only have to win one match.

[Toronto Villa]

I really want to win it, we need our players to get into the habit of picking up trinkets.

yeh me too. It's like Palace beating Liverpool to win the Community Shield even if it doesn't mean much. They won the FA Cup to get there and it's always a great feeling seeing your team lift shiny things. I want to get used to that feeling. A domestic trophy would be nice next season at minimum as we go for much bigger prizes.

[cdbearsfan]

Also, the idea of getting rid of the League Cup is horrific. For most Premier League clubs, they only have a realistic chance of winning one of two domestic honours when the season starts. Why would you want to reduce that? The sort of nonsense arrogant Arsechesterpool glory-hunters come out with.

[Pete3206]

I like the idea of having UEFA Super Cup winners x 2 on our honours list.

[Dick Edwards]

The Super Cup in 1983 was a mid season tie and meant a lot when we won it, even if the trophy was just a piece of polished wood. Barcelona certainly never treated the tie as a friendly, it was a battle to the death. Nowadays it's a glorified pre season curtain raiser, a European version of the community shield. That said, we'll be Supreme Champions of Europe if we win it, like we were in 1983

[AV82EC]

I think the new Club World Cup is, unpleasant as it may be, a major trophy. You have to play seven games and the winner gets £100 million. The new Intercontinental Cup can still be classed as a minor trophy as European teams only have to win one match.

I suppose I have to concede this one, as you say unpleasant as it may be. Is the  Intercontinental Cup the thing that FIFA still do between Europe and South America every year apart from the Club World Cup year? I’m so lost on how this is developing, bloody FIFA. 

[Pete3206]

The Super Cup in 1983 was a mid season tie and meant a lot when we won it, even if the trophy was just a piece of polished wood. Barcelona certainly never treated the tie as a friendly, it was a battle to the death. Nowadays it's a glorified pre season curtain raiser, a European version of the community shield. That said, we'll be Supreme Champions of Europe if we win it, like we were in 1983

I agree that it was a battle in 1983 and there was a tremendous atmosphere at Villa Park. But, even though we were playing Barcelona, the attendance was only 31,000. Above average for that season, but still low when you consider the opposition and, the ground was bursting at the seams a few days later, when we hosted Wolves in the FA Cup.

[Chip Butty 111]

The Super Cup in 1983 was a mid season tie and meant a lot when we won it, even if the trophy was just a piece of polished wood. Barcelona certainly never treated the tie as a friendly, it was a battle to the death. Nowadays it's a glorified pre season curtain raiser, a European version of the community shield. That said, we'll be Supreme Champions of Europe if we win it, like we were in 1983

I agree that it was a battle in 1983 and there was a tremendous atmosphere at Villa Park. But, even though we were playing Barcelona, the attendance was only 31,000. Above average for that season, but still low when you consider the opposition and, the ground was bursting at the seams a few days later, when we hosted Wolves in the FA Cup.

...I was at that game, a crazy night. GBH being dished out in plain sight on the pitch if I remember. Seems completely mad that we had a bigger turnout for Wolves than Barcelona,  don't think that would happen now lol...