Wake me up when it's over

[PeterWithesShin]

Andrew Fox is deeply unpleasant and isn't Jewish. But Eliot doesn't think you should be allowed to say that.

[eliotpollak]

Andrew Fox is deeply unpleasant and isn't Jewish. But Eliot doesn't think you should be allowed to say that.

I know the word peruse was beyond you earlier. But looking up the word ‘honorary’ may help you here.
Stormzy is an honorary fellow of Cambridge University. He didn’t go there.
And you can say that. But I don’t think you have the right to tell me that we should get rid of him (as posters have done).

[PeterWithesShin]

I don't have the right, which is why i've never said it have I?

[PeterWithesShin]

If James is any doubt about Eliot hopefully it's all been cleared up now.

[eliotpollak]

I don't have the right, which is why i've never said it have I?

No. Hence I said other posters. Not you.

[markeeeebeeee2005]

You could have GI Joe as an honorary president for all I care. But it’s the genocide denial that means I question your judgement.

[PeterWithesShin]

Which posters? And don't say "you" in a direct reply to me when it quite clearly isn't me saying it.

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

Eliot, I don't have any dislike of Jews, I don't have any reason to dislike there being a Jewish supporters club for Villa or any other club. I don't think anybody else on this thread does either.

I do think the response of the military in Gaza on behalf of the present Israeli government has gone way too far. I still do not get how you can make the leap to saying that makes somebody anti-semitic ?

[dave.woodhall]

Purely out of curiosity, how many members does your club have?

[Percy McCarthy]

Eliot, I don't have any dislike of Jews, I don't have any reason to dislike there being a Jewish supporters club for Villa or any other club. I don't think anybody else on this thread does either.

I do think the response of the military in Gaza on behalf of the present Israeli government has gone way too far. I still do not get how you can make the leap to saying that makes somebody anti-semitic ?

He has a vivid imagination.

[eliotpollak]

Which posters? And don't say "you" in a direct reply to me when it quite clearly isn't me saying it.

Posters questioned it earlier in the discussion. Dave asked me about it at the top of p3. Cdbearsfan asked how he could kick him out on the same page. That’s just a quick look at one page. So I would suggest it’s correct to say that non members seem to think it’s their business who is in our group

[eliotpollak]

Eliot, I don't have any dislike of Jews, I don't have any reason to dislike there being a Jewish supporters club for Villa or any other club. I don't think anybody else on this thread does either.

I do think the response of the military in Gaza on behalf of the present Israeli government has gone way too far. I still do not get how you can make the leap to saying that makes somebody anti-semitic ?

I’ve never said it does. Somebody said the same thing earlier and I pointed out a lot of people agree with you, most particularly in Israel. It’s a valid opinion. It’s a shame people don’t have the same respect for anyone who disagrees.
Using the word genocide however would be seen by most Jews as anti-Semitic, as per the link I pointed to earlier. That’s all I’ve said

[eliotpollak]

Purely out of curiosity, how many members does your club have?

More than ten. Fewer than fifty. We don’t charge or check anyone’s bona fides so people can just email or text me and join - Then they’re on our email list for when we do events.
For all I know, 30 of the emails to join may have been bots (or may be dead even, there  are v few young Jews still living in B’ham - can’t think why.)
Hence the careful answer. I could probably put a face to about 15-20. But we have others who I’ve never met.
That open attitude to joining may now change given the level of interest in the group I guess.

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

Eliot, I don't have any dislike of Jews, I don't have any reason to dislike there being a Jewish supporters club for Villa or any other club. I don't think anybody else on this thread does either.

I do think the response of the military in Gaza on behalf of the present Israeli government has gone way too far. I still do not get how you can make the leap to saying that makes somebody anti-semitic ?

I’ve never said it does. Somebody said the same thing earlier and I pointed out a lot of people agree with you, most particularly in Israel. It’s a valid opinion. It’s a shame people don’t have the same respect for anyone who disagrees.
Using the word genocide however would be seen by most Jews as anti-Semitic, as per the link I pointed to earlier. That’s all I’ve said

So it's the use of the word `Genocide` ?

https://www.israelhayom.com/2025/10/05/poll-reveals-40-of-us-jews-believe-israel-committing-genocide-in-gaza/

[eliotpollak]

Eliot, I don't have any dislike of Jews, I don't have any reason to dislike there being a Jewish supporters club for Villa or any other club. I don't think anybody else on this thread does either.

I do think the response of the military in Gaza on behalf of the present Israeli government has gone way too far. I still do not get how you can make the leap to saying that makes somebody anti-semitic ?

I’ve never said it does. Somebody said the same thing earlier and I pointed out a lot of people agree with you, most particularly in Israel. It’s a valid opinion. It’s a shame people don’t have the same respect for anyone who disagrees.
Using the word genocide however would be seen by most Jews as anti-Semitic, as per the link I pointed to earlier. That’s all I’ve said

So it's the use of the word `Genocide` ?

https://www.israelhayom.com/2025/10/05/poll-reveals-40-of-us-jews-believe-israel-committing-genocide-in-gaza/

Yes. 40% is still a minority, and an even bigger minority of world Jewry when you consider 6m or so in Israel who 99.99% disagree.