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Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Wake me up when it's over
« Reply #255 on: Today at 11:24:37 AM »
I haven't seen anyone on here say that a Jewish supporter's group shouldn't exist, or that they are against one. It's as though Eliot is repeatedly economical with the truth.

What was questioned was if they did exist as no one had heard of them. Eliot then said it's because they deliberately keep themselves private. It was pointed out the Jewish fan clubs of other PL clubs are visible, Eliot didn't like that.

It does raise the question, if they don't tell anyone they exist, give out no info, have no online presence, how do our Jewish fans join that group?

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Re: Wake me up when it's over
« Reply #256 on: Today at 11:30:19 AM »
I haven't seen anyone on here say that a Jewish supporter's group shouldn't exist, or that they are against one. It's as though Eliot is repeatedly economical with the truth.

What was questioned was if they did exist as no one had heard of them. Eliot then said it's because they deliberately keep themselves private. It was pointed out the Jewish fan clubs of other PL clubs are visible, Eliot didn't like that.

It does raise the question, if they don't tell anyone they exist, give out no info, have no online presence, how do our Jewish fans join that group?
And what about his other point that people were outraged that Jews should be able to choose who can join a Jewish supporters' group? Who on earth came out with that nugget?

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Re: Wake me up when it's over
« Reply #257 on: Today at 11:30:48 AM »
I haven't seen anyone on here say that a Jewish supporter's group shouldn't exist, or that they are against one. It's as though Eliot is repeatedly economical with the truth.

What was questioned was if they did exist as no one had heard of them. Eliot then said it's because they deliberately keep themselves private. It was pointed out the Jewish fan clubs of other PL clubs are visible, Eliot didn't like that.

It does raise the question, if they don't tell anyone they exist, give out no info, have no online presence, how do our Jewish fans join that group?

Contact me, or as has been the case, contact the club who have my details.

I dealt with the other point. How many visible fan clubs? How many clubs in the league? Therefore how many you don’t know about.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Wake me up when it's over
« Reply #258 on: Today at 11:33:23 AM »
How were they meant to contact you if you didn't publicise who you were. Why would they contact the club about a group they don't know exists.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Wake me up when it's over
« Reply #259 on: Today at 11:34:30 AM »

And what about his other point that people were outraged that Jews should be able to choose who can join a Jewish supporters' group? Who on earth came out with that nugget?

No one on here that i've seen.

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Re: Wake me up when it's over
« Reply #260 on: Today at 11:36:37 AM »

And what about his other point that people were outraged that Jews should be able to choose who can join a Jewish supporters' group? Who on earth came out with that nugget?

No one on here that i've seen.
The suggestion did surprise me, I must say.

Offline Neil Hawkes

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Re: Wake me up when it's over
« Reply #261 on: Today at 11:37:56 AM »
You asked about other fans being banned from games as though it never happens, I pointed that it's happened many many times including twice last month. My "peruse" comment was trying to make you realise how stupid it was when you said the same to someone.

I don’t see why that argument is relevant. It’s a British ban, not a French one or German one. Many leagues across Europe don’t allow away fans often for domestic games either.
It’s a fact this hasn’t happened here in generations. That is interesting in my view.
How many years where English clubs banned from Europe over crowd violence (this was decades ago).
I see no difference in this case.

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Re: Wake me up when it's over
« Reply #262 on: Today at 11:42:12 AM »
I haven't seen anyone on here say that a Jewish supporter's group shouldn't exist, or that they are against one. It's as though Eliot is repeatedly economical with the truth.

What was questioned was if they did exist as no one had heard of them. Eliot then said it's because they deliberately keep themselves private. It was pointed out the Jewish fan clubs of other PL clubs are visible, Eliot didn't like that.

It does raise the question, if they don't tell anyone they exist, give out no info, have no online presence, how do our Jewish fans join that group?

Contact me, or as has been the case, contact the club who have my details.

I dealt with the other point. How many visible fan clubs? How many clubs in the league? Therefore how many you don’t know about.

Can anyone join?

Offline markeeeebeeee2005

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Re: Wake me up when it's over
« Reply #263 on: Today at 11:45:41 AM »
Yes, if you have British Military training and a shiny new jumper.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Wake me up when it's over
« Reply #264 on: Today at 11:46:08 AM »
I haven't seen anyone on here say that a Jewish supporter's group shouldn't exist, or that they are against one. It's as though Eliot is repeatedly economical with the truth.

What was questioned was if they did exist as no one had heard of them. Eliot then said it's because they deliberately keep themselves private. It was pointed out the Jewish fan clubs of other PL clubs are visible, Eliot didn't like that.

It does raise the question, if they don't tell anyone they exist, give out no info, have no online presence, how do our Jewish fans join that group?

Contact me, or as has been the case, contact the club who have my details.

I dealt with the other point. How many visible fan clubs? How many clubs in the league? Therefore how many you don’t know about.

And where on here has anyone said there shouldn't be a Jewish fan group or express outrage if there is one?

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Re: Wake me up when it's over
« Reply #265 on: Today at 11:48:42 AM »
How were they meant to contact you if you didn't publicise who you were. Why would they contact the club about a group they don't know exists.

I need to advertise on Spaghetti Junction?
We sent out emails to synagogue groups in B’ham, student J-socs in the area etc.
This grilling is indicative of how much our existence bothers everyone, to deal with a previous question. Why get so angry about something that you don’t object to.

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Re: Wake me up when it's over
« Reply #266 on: Today at 11:49:54 AM »

And what about his other point that people were outraged that Jews should be able to choose who can join a Jewish supporters' group? Who on earth came out with that nugget?

No one on here that i've seen.
The suggestion did surprise me, I must say.

Lots of people saying we shouldn’t be allowed our Honorary President. ‘We’ll let you have your pesky little group, but don’t you dare choose who is in it!’

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Re: Wake me up when it's over
« Reply #267 on: Today at 11:50:29 AM »

And what about his other point that people were outraged that Jews should be able to choose who can join a Jewish supporters' group? Who on earth came out with that nugget?

No one on here that i've seen.
The suggestion did surprise me, I must say.

Lots of people saying we shouldn’t be allowed our Honorary President. ‘We’ll let you have your pesky little group, but don’t you dare choose who is in it!’
On here?

Online eliotpollak

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Re: Wake me up when it's over
« Reply #268 on: Today at 11:50:35 AM »
I haven't seen anyone on here say that a Jewish supporter's group shouldn't exist, or that they are against one. It's as though Eliot is repeatedly economical with the truth.

What was questioned was if they did exist as no one had heard of them. Eliot then said it's because they deliberately keep themselves private. It was pointed out the Jewish fan clubs of other PL clubs are visible, Eliot didn't like that.

It does raise the question, if they don't tell anyone they exist, give out no info, have no online presence, how do our Jewish fans join that group?

Contact me, or as has been the case, contact the club who have my details.

I dealt with the other point. How many visible fan clubs? How many clubs in the league? Therefore how many you don’t know about.

Can anyone join?

If they’re Jewish and Villa, of course.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Wake me up when it's over
« Reply #269 on: Today at 11:52:25 AM »
How were they meant to contact you if you didn't publicise who you were. Why would they contact the club about a group they don't know exists.

I need to advertise on Spaghetti Junction?
We sent out emails to synagogue groups in B’ham, student J-socs in the area etc.
This grilling is indicative of how much our existence bothers everyone, to deal with a previous question. Why get so angry about something that you don’t object to.

Have you ever thought of answering a question without including the "you only ask because you don't like us" routine?

 


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