Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)

[PaulWinch again]

It was set as it is, because it was very much intended to be a permanent transfer, but we needed a way round PSR. For whatever reason, it’s us that have utilised the existence of the clause to back out. Our approach is pretty ordinary here. The clause is there so we can do what we like, but is very clearly not acting in the spirit of the agreement that was reached.

[Percy McCarthy]

So, does anyone know if it’s 10 PL appearances or all comps?

So far he’s played 4 PL, 1 CC, 2 EL.

[Bent Neilsens Screamer]

Whatever happens, if Harvey isn't free to contribute for the second half of the season (either here, or at Liverpool), it'll be a pretty shameful chapter in our history, and Liverpool's.

Not ideal but shameful….I’ve told you a million times do not exaggerate.

[pauliewalnuts]

Whatever happens, if Harvey isn't free to contribute for the second half of the season (either here, or at Liverpool), it'll be a pretty shameful chapter in our history, and Liverpool's.

Not ideal but shameful….I’ve told you a million times do not exaggerate.

[eamonn]

So, does anyone know if it’s 10 PL appearances or all comps?

So far he’s played 4 PL, 1 CC, 2 EL.

I thought your namesake in the press would know, but he seems to be breadcrumbing us.

[aj2k77]

Cheers Monchi, you fucking idiot.

[rooboy316]

He reminds me of Barry Bannan a bit. Tons of skill, but little in the way of physicality or pace.

Nail on head.

It's always confused me when they say the Championship is a physcial league, when players like Bannan can do very well there and I'm sure Elliot would too.

It maybe used to be the case but nowdays the Premier League players are like decathletes with a decent touch.

In Ollie’s case, he’s even managed it without the touch. #smirk

[Demitri_C]

The good thing is its only a clause so it can still be negotiated after the window is shut

[Mister E]

So, does anyone know if it’s 10 PL appearances or all comps?

So far he’s played 4 PL, 1 CC, 2 EL.

Almost academic since I don't think Emery will play him. Without a change to the loan-agreement, the guy's going to get frozen out (in the nicest possible way), and I - like Smithy above - think that his parent-club has a duty of care which it appears to have failed on. Villa is not without a share of the responsibility on this as well.

[PeterWithe]

Tom Collomose in the Mail reporting that we and Liverpool are now discussing the terms of the loan with a view to amending them as at present, it suits no party.

Which kind of begs the question of why has it taken so long as presumably, these discussions have nothing to do with the transfer window.

Probably because we were hoping they’d call him back so we could het another loan

They didn’t want to do that as it’d help us and they’re trying to catch us

But they might be more willing to talk over removing the clause as if he doesn’t play he loses value

Really sad all round

Can we change the terms of the loan outside the transfer window? It FEELS like that wouldn't be allowed, but this entire loan situation has been so strange I really wouldn't know.

I don’t know but I can’t see why not as he, for the time being, is simply registered to play for us. We are taking the decision not to play him. I’d guess the PL are not aware of the 10 game clause in the agreement and don’t need to be.

Maybe…

[VinnieChase84]

Unfortunately it will be a case where he's likely left in limbo. Liverpool as of now have not been willing to move any details of his loan agreement. Even though window is closed we can still sort it but as of now nothing has changed
I expect he is being used for Feb to cover a few injuries (mcginn and tilly) maybe almost max out his appearances if we feel using him helps the now and then come march hes back in the wilderness

Feel sorry for him to be fair and all noises out are hes been an absolute professional about it all - so well done Harvey