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Online Dave

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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #840 on: November 30, 2025, 09:05:05 PM »
Back out the squad again.
Maybe suggests that if there is an obligation to buy triggered after 10 games, those have to be league games. UTV

He'd be playing in the Europa League matches then.
Not necessarily, assuming Emery does not really fancy him.

With a few first choice options rested for Europa League games, Emery can put him on the bench and use him if needed - even if only to run down the clock. It might that he won't even risk that with league games.

In that case, the reason he's not playing is because we don't want to use him, not because of any stress about purchase obligations.

If we can use him in non-league matches without worrying about our agreement with Liverpool, and we're choosing not to use him, then the only reason we're not using him is because we don't want to.

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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #841 on: November 30, 2025, 10:19:19 PM »
He's going back to Liverpool.

The end.

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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #842 on: December 01, 2025, 11:57:09 AM »
He's going back to Liverpool.

The end.

I reckon the only way he stays is if they agree to waive the obligation to buy.

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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #843 on: December 01, 2025, 11:58:18 AM »
If he wants to stay the hair needs to go.

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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #844 on: December 01, 2025, 11:59:42 AM »
If he wants to stay the hair needs to go.

Yes, that as well.

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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #845 on: December 01, 2025, 12:40:58 PM »
Although Foden is starting to beat Elliott to shittest two hairstyles in the prem by one player.

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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #846 on: December 02, 2025, 10:38:14 AM »
Elliott has made a total of 5 appearances across all competitions (Premier League - 3, League Cup -1, and Europa League-1).

Been an unused substitute on at least 6 other occasions (3 in the Premier League and 3 in the Europa League).

So that's 11 times in the squad (6 Premier League), 5 times on the pitch.

Not sure where that leaves the 10, but I think it has to be said Emery isn't thinking he's the one.

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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #847 on: December 02, 2025, 10:55:01 AM »
He's going back to Liverpool.

The end.

That certainly seems to be the view of John Townley.

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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #848 on: December 02, 2025, 10:57:14 AM »
Elliott has made a total of 5 appearances across all competitions (Premier League - 3, League Cup -1, and Europa League-1).

Been an unused substitute on at least 6 other occasions (3 in the Premier League and 3 in the Europa League).

So that's 11 times in the squad (6 Premier League), 5 times on the pitch.

Not sure where that leaves the 10, but I think it has to be said Emery isn't thinking he's the one.

It leaves it on five.

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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #849 on: December 02, 2025, 10:59:01 AM »
Elliott has made a total of 5 appearances across all competitions (Premier League - 3, League Cup -1, and Europa League-1).

Been an unused substitute on at least 6 other occasions (3 in the Premier League and 3 in the Europa League).

So that's 11 times in the squad (6 Premier League), 5 times on the pitch.

Not sure where that leaves the 10, but I think it has to be said Emery isn't thinking he's the one.

It leaves it on five.

Unless it's 10 Premier League.

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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #850 on: December 02, 2025, 11:09:00 AM »
With Barkley potentially injured, it will be interesting if Harvey makes the bench Wednesday. I suspect he will although not neccesarily played.

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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #851 on: December 02, 2025, 11:10:16 AM »
Elliott has made a total of 5 appearances across all competitions (Premier League - 3, League Cup -1, and Europa League-1).

Been an unused substitute on at least 6 other occasions (3 in the Premier League and 3 in the Europa League).

So that's 11 times in the squad (6 Premier League), 5 times on the pitch.

Not sure where that leaves the 10, but I think it has to be said Emery isn't thinking he's the one.

It leaves it on five.

Unless it's 10 Premier League.

As per posts above, then we'd be using him in Europe. Unless the reason we're not using him in Europe is that we don't think he's good enough.

In which case, the only reason we're not playing him is because we don't think he's good enough, and the "ten appearances" thing is a complete red herring as to why he's not playing.

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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #852 on: December 02, 2025, 02:50:09 PM »
With Barkley potentially injured, it will be interesting if Harvey makes the bench Wednesday. I suspect he will although not neccesarily played.

Well he put George Hemmings on the bench against Leeds, leaving Elliott out and I reckon he will probably do the same tomorrow.   

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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #853 on: December 02, 2025, 02:54:08 PM »
I guess if he starts against Forest on 3/1/26, then we'll have our answer.

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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #854 on: December 02, 2025, 03:01:59 PM »
With Barkley potentially injured, it will be interesting if Harvey makes the bench Wednesday. I suspect he will although not neccesarily played.

Well he put George Hemmings on the bench against Leeds, leaving Elliott out and I reckon he will probably do the same tomorrow.   

Again that was mostly about balance. How we're setup means there are, effectively, 4 attacking players and 6 defensive players. Emery very rarely puts more than 4 attacking players on the bench as a result, that day we had Guessand, Sancho, Barkley and Malen on the bench as that 4 and then we had a gap where Onana would've bene on the bench (and Bogarde was there but had come back from international duty with a knock) so there wasn't a obvious place for Elliott.

With Barkley out that spot is now open and much more likely to be available for Elliott to take. If we pick Jimoh-Aloba (or similar) for it instead then it shows that Elliott is being intentionally sidelined rather than us just needing to leave someone out and him being the unlucky one of 3 who could all be dropped (Sancho and Guessand the other 2 who are struggling).

 


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