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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #870 on: Today at 07:15:32 PM »
The whole thing is just a pointless spaffing of negative energy.

Why bother with any arrangement at all if ultimately, any one of us is more likely to get a game for Villa than him?

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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #871 on: Today at 07:21:37 PM »
Liverpool were short 4 substitutes on their bench last night and also Mo is/has pissed off. They might need him back.

Only good thing Elliot did for us is possibly raise Little Emi's game!!

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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #872 on: Today at 07:27:26 PM »
Liverpool were short 4 substitutes on their bench last night and also Mo is/has pissed off. They might need him back.

Only good thing Elliot did for us is possibly raise Little Emi's game!!
He had a decent cameo in the Christmas video

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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #873 on: Today at 07:32:52 PM »
The whole thing is just a pointless spaffing of negative energy.

Why bother with any arrangement at all if ultimately, any one of us is more likely to get a game for Villa than him?

The whole thing makes no sense. It was the only bit of positivity at the end of a shit window. But outside of a couple of appearances a very promising English born player, player of the tournament for the U21s has literally vanished into thin air. Othet than appearing in a Christmas sweater that is on the club website. Is he really so bewildered by the Unai system that he hasn't picked up anything at all in 3 months? No signs of a fall out, argument etc. Is this 10 game thing real that we simply won't play him at all? He's essentially the entirety of the 2025 bomb squad and almost exclusively all of the negativity at the club right now. Ok, that and the quality of food in the Doug Ellis and the time to pour pints.

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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #874 on: Today at 07:54:19 PM »
🚨⚠️ Unai Emery confirms Harvey Elliott is likely to leave Aston Villa in January: “Hopefully we can get a solution for him to try to play consistently, to continue in his career with us or not”.

“He is on loan here, but not definitely adding to us with a permanent contract”.

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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #875 on: Today at 07:54:35 PM »
The whole thing is just a pointless spaffing of negative energy.

Why bother with any arrangement at all if ultimately, any one of us is more likely to get a game for Villa than him?

The whole thing makes no sense. It was the only bit of positivity at the end of a shit window. But outside of a couple of appearances a very promising English born player, player of the tournament for the U21s has literally vanished into thin air. Othet than appearing in a Christmas sweater that is on the club website. Is he really so bewildered by the Unai system that he hasn't picked up anything at all in 3 months? No signs of a fall out, argument etc. Is this 10 game thing real that we simply won't play him at all?

Obviously. Based on what we've seen, there is one version of events that makes sense.

We have to spend £30m on him if he plays ten matches. He had come in to play* a role that is a combination of what McGinn / Rogers / Buendia do. From what the club has seen (and given a turbo-boost by what Buendia is doing) we now don't want to commit £30m on him playing that position, thinking that £30m is better used elsewhere. If Buendia had died on his arse in his first couple of appearances (or Elliott had been amazing), I'm guessing we'd have chucked our weight behind the signing. But he didn't, so we're rolling the dice on a couple of years of Buendia being what Elliott was supposed to be, and thinking where that money could be better used.

Elliott is clearly really good, and I'm sure he'd be quite comfortable with whatever Emery wants him to do. But not to the extent that we want to hand over the pre-agreed money for it.

*there's another role that he possibly played, the role of "this guy might make those twats that follow us less angry about how shit the season has started, so just agree to whatever gets this bloke over the line"
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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #876 on: Today at 07:58:04 PM »
🚨⚠️ Unai Emery confirms Harvey Elliott is likely to leave Aston Villa in January: “Hopefully we can get a solution for him to try to play consistently, to continue in his career with us or not”.

“He is on loan here, but not definitely adding to us with a permanent contract”.
I do feel a bit sorry for him, it’s been a waste of six months for him.

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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #877 on: Today at 08:07:34 PM »
Based on what we've seen, there is one version of events that makes sense.

Agreed. The only thing to add was the whole structure of the deal was poor on our side.

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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #878 on: Today at 08:09:17 PM »
I reckon that there’s some truth in that last conjecture, although the target may extend beyond “the twats that follow us” to the club itself. Did everyone in the club really understand the deal?

Out of curiosity, how many appearances has Elliot made since Monchi left?

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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #879 on: Today at 08:20:06 PM »
🚨⚠️ Unai Emery confirms Harvey Elliott is likely to leave Aston Villa in January: “Hopefully we can get a solution for him to try to play consistently, to continue in his career with us or not”.

“He is on loan here, but not definitely adding to us with a permanent contract”.
I do feel a bit sorry for him, it’s been a waste of six months for him.

Yep. In limbo.

As others said no-one saw Buendia revival. McGinn is playing as well as ever.

Right signing at totally the wrong time.

I suspect he will help Liverpool 2nd half of season and end up at Bournemouth ot Palace next season for 25m + add ons

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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #880 on: Today at 08:21:10 PM »
Yeah I feel sorry for him. It’s not great at all.

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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #881 on: Today at 08:24:20 PM »
I suspect he will help Liverpool 2nd half of season and end up at Bournemouth ot Palace next season for 25m + add ons

That feels very prescient.

I wouldn't rule out him fitting back in at Liverpool, doing a good job, him being their Buendia and going on to having the sort of career which prompts umpteen "why didn't we just sign him?!?" posts in a few years time.

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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #882 on: Today at 08:25:48 PM »
I absolutely guarantee throughout his career he’ll score plenty of goals against us.

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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #883 on: Today at 08:29:09 PM »
I absolutely guarantee throughout his career he’ll score plenty of goals against us.

Yeah got that Peter Crouch feel about it.

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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #884 on: Today at 09:03:02 PM »
I reckon that there’s some truth in that last conjecture, although the target may extend beyond “the twats that follow us” to the club itself. Did everyone in the club really understand the deal?

Out of curiosity, how many appearances has Elliot made since Monchi left?

According to a recent article, five. In all competitions.

 


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