I wished someone would make a "England are so far ahead in the coefficient that we can cheer on all other English team opponents and not need to worry about a 5th position" post a sticky.
Is this actually true - apologises just logged in to see everyones been dicked again.
To some extent, maybe, just maybe, excluding the big clubs in the uk from competition and risk isnt a good thing?
Even after tonights matches the standings are:-
England = 22.513
Spain = 18.031
Germany = 18.000
A Spanish win gets them .25 points, a German win gets them .28. They would need every Spanish team and every German team to win all their games. However if every English team are knocked out, just in the CL a Spanish/German team meet in one QF and two Spanish teams meet in the other. In the Europa a Spanish / German QF could also happen assuming they get through, and they are the underdogs in those matches.
So no, I don't think both countries will finish about England even if one did.