Aston Villa v Palace Post-Match Thread

[PeterWithesShin]

Hindsight Utd go unbeaten every season.

[Beard82]

It’s funny though Pau has a higher tackle success rate of his Premier League career than Ty - I’ve no idea what that means, but it sounds like a defensive stat.

It may actually mean Pau doesn’t tackle a lot, a bit like when Duran had the highest goals per min rate.

If the Premier League stats are to believe he actually proportionally makes more than Ty.

How so? Stats please.

Stats can prove anything.  Mings shoudl have started - and there isnt a person on this planet that thinks in hindsight that we woudl have been worse with him.

Is anyone saying that? I think the point I’m making is the preference over who should start has shifted into a narrative that Pau is hopeless - which is frankly bollocks, and disrespectful, towards a player who has been key to getting us to where we are and also to some of our biggest results in recent times.

Yes - but equally I dont think anyone is saying Pau is hopeless.  I think everyone can see his ability and contribution.  I think hes excellent.  As is Mings - but its pointless having both of them if you play the wrong one based on what lies infront of you. 

[cdbearsfan]

Brilliant players, arguably best squad we have ever had, media darlings, loan players who piss Champions Leagues, a manager universally acknowledged as a genius who always wins trophies, billionaire owners. But we are Aston Villa, and being bottling fucking shitebags is in our DNA. No trophies in three decades, they should be ashamed.

[villa for life]

It’s funny though Pau has a higher tackle success rate of his Premier League career than Ty - I’ve no idea what that means, but it sounds like a defensive stat.

It may actually mean Pau doesn’t tackle a lot, a bit like when Duran had the highest goals per min rate.

If the Premier League stats are to believe he actually proportionally makes more than Ty.

How so? Stats please.

Stats can prove anything.  Mings shoudl have started - and there isnt a person on this planet that thinks in hindsight that we woudl have been worse with him.

Is anyone saying that? I think the point I’m making is the preference over who should start has shifted into a narrative that Pau is hopeless - which is frankly bollocks, and disrespectful, towards a player who has been key to getting us to where we are and also to some of our biggest results in recent times.

Paul Winch- it’s obvious you are a huge Pau fan. (I won’t use the pathetic word “agenda” that some use when someone has a differing viewpoint)

But Can you at least acknowledge that we concede more goals with Pau in the side?

[Brazilian Villain]

There can’t be many more abject and dismal semi final performances ever…

Villa v Bolton, Villa v Chelsea.

The 1996 semi-final wasn't much fun either.

[saint13]

That was our seventh defeat in our last nine Wembley appearances.

Wow.

Suddenly struck me that 25 years ago we beat Bolton at Wembley on penalties.

Tempus fuckin fugit.

We were rubbish that day too...we totally roze on the big day and got away with it when Holdsworth missed the open goal from 4 yards out right at the death.

[Toronto Villa]

I still feel sick about the game. To go out like that on such a big stage was beyond awful. It was a bit like the drubbing we got against Arsenal but even then we enjoyed a great win in the SF vs Liverpool and got to the final. Today was much worse. I know there is a process in place to get us to these stage much more frequently but today just felt like a huge step backwards. Any maybe we should expect a step backwards here or there to get to where we want to go and who we want to be long term. But today, in isolation was crushing in what has been a very good season. Just doesn’t feel like that right now.

[Nev]

The season is in the bin for me. Not because of the result, but the approach.

They know they must, but still, they did that.

[olaftab]

There can’t be many more abject and dismal semi final performances ever…

Villa v Bolton, Villa v Chelsea.

The 1996 semi-final wasn't much fun either.

In the FA cup I have seen us play 5 semi finals, pathetic in itself. We won two and have been twatted 3-0 in others.

[itbrvilla]

Lucky for us it didn't end 5+.

[itbrvilla]

Shame we can't take the game to teams very often.

[Sexual Ealing]

Before I log off and try to stop being a miserable cnut, perhaps our senior football leadership and marketing department may want to reconsider plastering social media with celebratory rallies in front of the fans before a ball has been kicked (in the semi-final, a round three other teams had 'achieved' qualification for).

Neil Kinnock lost an election for less.

[AV82EC]

Before I log off and try to stop being a miserable cnut, perhaps our senior football leadership and marketing department may want to reconsider plastering social media with celebratory rallies in front of the fans before a ball has been kicked (in the semi-final, a round three other teams had 'achieved' qualification for).

Neil Kinnock lost an election for less.

We’re alright….

[TonyD]

Palace are a good attacking side.
They rested for this game.
And they beat a better side because we a bit knackered.
Plus they are a our bogey side.
Shit happens.

[PaulWinch again]

It’s funny though Pau has a higher tackle success rate of his Premier League career than Ty - I’ve no idea what that means, but it sounds like a defensive stat.

It may actually mean Pau doesn’t tackle a lot, a bit like when Duran had the highest goals per min rate.

If the Premier League stats are to believe he actually proportionally makes more than Ty.

How so? Stats please.

Stats can prove anything.  Mings shoudl have started - and there isnt a person on this planet that thinks in hindsight that we woudl have been worse with him.

Is anyone saying that? I think the point I’m making is the preference over who should start has shifted into a narrative that Pau is hopeless - which is frankly bollocks, and disrespectful, towards a player who has been key to getting us to where we are and also to some of our biggest results in recent times.

Paul Winch- it’s obvious you are a huge Pau fan. (I won’t use the pathetic word “agenda” that some use when someone has a differing viewpoint)

But Can you at least acknowledge that we concede more goals with Pau in the side?

I like Pau and I like Mings, because I can see the value they’ve provided across their respective Villa careers (obviously Ty will go down as a key player in our return). I suspect we do concede more with Pau, but we’ve also had our best run in the top flight in a very long time with him in the side and had some of our best moments in recent history with him in the side. I’m not saying I wouldn’t have picked Ty today, I would have. But it has been proven many times that Pau can be a key part of the team that beats top teams.