Aston Villa v Palace Post-Match Thread

[LeeB]

For me neither Mings or Pau are top 4 players..both have too many mistakes in the locker. Questions need to be asked about Martinez, he's becoming a victim of this world's no 1 moniker, how many times has he conceded from the first shot on target this season? Half of our problem today was that Kamara and Tielemans played like they had there bootlaces tied together, and were dispossessed easily resulting with us being hit with pace on numerous occasions. We were a rabble today

Someone said it's 21 times this season we've conceded first shot, if correct that's absolutely mental.

[PeterWithesShin]

For me neither Mings or Pau are top 4 players..both have too many mistakes in the locker. Questions need to be asked about Martinez, he's becoming a victim of this world's no 1 moniker, how many times has he conceded from the first shot on target this season? Half of our problem today was that Kamara and Tielemans played like they had there bootlaces tied together, and were dispossessed easily resulting with us being hit with pace on numerous occasions. We were a rabble today

Someone said it's 21 times this season we've conceded first shot, if correct that's absolutely mental.

Today made it 22.

[PaulWinch again]

I think today was the 56th game of the season for Tielemans and all are starts. It takes its toll.

Yeah and that is utterly crazy - I’m sure the Barkley and Onana fitness issues haven’t helped, but you can’t have such a key player starting so many games.

[LeeB]

Christ on a shiny bike.

[OzVilla]

If ever you could sum up the history of Aston Villa in a week….

[Beard82]

Before I log off and try to stop being a miserable cnut, perhaps our senior football leadership and marketing department may want to reconsider plastering social media with celebratory rallies in front of the fans before a ball has been kicked (in the semi-final, a round three other teams had 'achieved' qualification for).

Neil Kinnock lost an election for less.

Ha - yeah fair point!

[Brend'Watkins]

Emi is on a downward slope, I fear.

Tielemans has started 51 games this season. Rogers can’t be far off. Today they looked it.

Nothing wrong with Emi or Tielemans.  But if Rogers isn’t contributing from the off and he did less than fuck all today then you have an issue. I’d  sell Rogers personally, if we got a. daftish price. I had strong words with a bloke in the front of me about his ineffectiveness he wasn’t having any of it until he was.

[Beard82]

For me neither Mings or Pau are top 4 players..both have too many mistakes in the locker. Questions need to be asked about Martinez, he's becoming a victim of this world's no 1 moniker, how many times has he conceded from the first shot on target this season? Half of our problem today was that Kamara and Tielemans played like they had there bootlaces tied together, and were dispossessed easily resulting with us being hit with pace on numerous occasions. We were a rabble today

Someone said it's 21 times this season we've conceded first shot, if correct that's absolutely mental.

Today made it 22.

If I was playing v Villa I would just shoot first time

[LeeB]

Emi is on a downward slope, I fear.

Tielemans has started 51 games this season. Rogers can’t be far off. Today they looked it.

Nothing wrong with Emi or Tielemans.  But if Rogers isn’t contributing from the off and he did less than fuck all today then you have an issue. I’d  sell Rogers personally, if we got a. daftish price. I had strong words with a bloke in the front of me about his ineffectiveness he wasn’t having any of it until he was.

I'd sell any of the fuckers for the right money after today.

[cdbearsfan]

Rogers has been run into the ground but he's still great. Eighteen months ago most Middlesbrough fans didn't rate him, his rise has been stratospheric and he's still nowhere near his peak. We'd be insane to sell unless someone gave us Mbappe money for him.

[Nev]

Emi is on a downward slope, I fear.

Tielemans has started 51 games this season. Rogers can’t be far off. Today they looked it.

Nothing wrong with Emi or Tielemans.  But if Rogers isn’t contributing from the off and he did less than fuck all today then you have an issue. I’d  sell Rogers personally, if we got a. daftish price. I had strong words with a bloke in the front of me about his ineffectiveness he wasn’t having any of it until he was.

I'd sell any of the fuckers for the right money after today.

Me too. I rarely suffer from Match Thread-itis but fuck me I hate all of the players tonight.

[PaulWinch again]

Emi is on a downward slope, I fear.

Tielemans has started 51 games this season. Rogers can’t be far off. Today they looked it.

Nothing wrong with Emi or Tielemans.  But if Rogers isn’t contributing from the off and he did less than fuck all today then you have an issue. I’d  sell Rogers personally, if we got a. daftish price. I had strong words with a bloke in the front of me about his ineffectiveness he wasn’t having any of it until he was.

All about opinions I guess, but that’s a crazy take in my view. He’s a young player, playing his first full season in the top flight. His ascent has been remarkable and our reliance on him is testament to that, but we have overplayed him and he’s knackered. Of course he needs to work on his game off the ball, but the amount he creates he is sensational. Selling him would be utterly bonkers, we have an absolute diamond - a couple of ropey games because he’s knackered, and arguably out of position, shouldn’t confuse that position.

[TonyD]

Have you not noticed virtually every time since we’ve been back in the PL that the defence makes a fuck up passing or blocking just outside the box or even 20 yards outside. We concede a goal. Most of our goals conceded are not from brilliant play from the opposition.
This is simple shit to be sorted with better players in defence.

[PaulWinch again]

Rogers has been run into the ground but he's still great. Eighteen months ago most Middlesbrough fans didn't rate him, his rise has been stratospheric and he's still nowhere near his peak. We'd be insane to sell unless someone gave us Mbappe money for him.

Exactly - in fact, if push came to shove I think he’s the absolute last player I’d sell.

[PeterWithesShin]

Rogers is great and still has loads more potential. CD is right though, in the approx 15 months since we signed him he's played 70 senior games for us and England. Plus some England U21 games.