Marcus Rashford - signed on loan (injured - out for season?)

[AV84]

Rashford could lose as much as 100% of the sponsorship money he receives from Nike because the sportswear giant considers Aston Villa a lower category of club than United. Nike could also ask him to partially pay back signing-on fees.

No idea if that's true or not, but how ridiculous that he could seemingly do absolutely nothing at Man Utd, literally not be seen on a pitch, and they'd still have happily paid him for the association. But get actual game time at a CL club and it's seen as lowering yourself?! What a load of balls.

[PeterWithe]

Yes I read that with a fair bit of cynacism, wouldn't he have just signed a contact for a set period of time with bonuses for winning stuff.

The contract would run to biblical length if it listed all world clubs into catagories they'd pay him if he moved there

[brontebilly]

I'm going to enjoy fans of other top clubs regretting making this move for Rashford and the media losing their mind as he performs well for little olf Villa. Of course it will circle back to why it didn't work at Man U at every opportunity.

The main reason it didn't work for Marcus Rashford at Man United is down to Marcus Rashford. Let's not kid ourselves. The last player I can recall who took the piss out of our club in such a manner was Gabby.

I'm genuinely stunned you'd compare Rashford at Man Utd to Gabby with us.  In Gabby's last 3 years with us (from age 29 up), he played a total of 38 times, and scored three goals.  Rashford has maintained a 1 in 3 scoring record whenever he's been called upon.

Man Utd is a shambles of a club right now, and so I won't judge a player based purely on how it's gone for them there under three different managers in three years.  Look at Scott McTominay, deemed not good enough for their midfield, and now leading the title charge at the heart of Napoli's midfield in Serie A.  Look at Antony Elanga, tearing it up at Forest.  All it seems to take is to get the decent players out of that environment and they can thrive.

McTominay and Elanga were never accused of not trying though. There's a big difference.

There's a lot of parallels with Rashford & Gabby. Talented forward players maybe too reliant on their pace and power to the detriment of the technical skills.  At the same age Rashford is now, Gabby was flying for a stint under Lambert on the LW up with Benteke and Weimann (the time to sell him in hindsight). I've memories of him being called up by England around then but not showing up for whatever reason. Never as prolific as Rashford sure but could be a very effective PL player when he wanted to be.

[PeterWithesShin]

At the same age Rashford is Gabby scored 10 goals in the rest of his career.

[The Edge]

I'm going to enjoy fans of other top clubs regretting making this move for Rashford and the media losing their mind as he performs well for little olf Villa. Of course it will circle back to why it didn't work at Man U at every opportunity.

The main reason it didn't work for Marcus Rashford at Man United is down to Marcus Rashford. Let's not kid ourselves. The last player I can recall who took the piss out of our club in such a manner was Gabby.

I'm genuinely stunned you'd compare Rashford at Man Utd to Gabby with us.  In Gabby's last 3 years with us (from age 29 up), he played a total of 38 times, and scored three goals.  Rashford has maintained a 1 in 3 scoring record whenever he's been called upon.

Man Utd is a shambles of a club right now, and so I won't judge a player based purely on how it's gone for them there under three different managers in three years.  Look at Scott McTominay, deemed not good enough for their midfield, and now leading the title charge at the heart of Napoli's midfield in Serie A.  Look at Antony Elanga, tearing it up at Forest.  All it seems to take is to get the decent players out of that environment and they can thrive.

McTominay and Elanga were never accused of not trying though. There's a big difference.

There's a lot of parallels with Rashford & Gabby. Talented forward players maybe too reliant on their pace and power to the detriment of the technical skills.  At the same age Rashford is now, Gabby was flying for a stint under Lambert on the LW up with Benteke and Weimann (the time to sell him in hindsight). I've memories of him being called up by England around then but not showing up for whatever reason. Never as prolific as Rashford sure but could be a very effective PL player when he wanted to be.

Yet more ways to weirdly keep doubling down on anything you can find to have a pop at him. It's bullshit to say Rashford relies on his pace to the detriment of his technical skills. He's a very skillful player and way more technical than Gabby ever was. His dribbling skills are superb Gabbys we're not and when did you ever see Gabby smash a free kick in from 25 yards? People who disagree with him signing are desperately digging around for anything detrimental to say about him and it's becoming very tiresome. You dont agree with him signing for us. I get it. But I do hope that when he scores a beauty in front of the Holte End you stick to your principles and refuse to celebrate.

[cdbearsfan]

At the same age Rashford is Gabby scored 10 goals in the rest of his career.

On the plus side, eight of them were winners against Small Heath.

[The Edge]

At the same age Rashford is Gabby scored 10 goals in the rest of his career.

On the plus side, eight of them were winners against Small Heath.

True. He'll always be a hero to us for his prolific scoring record against the noses. Even if Rashford were to stay for another 5 years he'll never match that stat. Hopefully he will never have to try.

[edgysatsuma89]

I'll never view that fat waster as a hero, regardless of how many he scored against them. Unlike that image of Rashford, he genuinely did become overweight for a footballer. He epitomised the years of our decline.

[Drummond]

I blame O'Neill for that, he made him bulk up.

Anyway, Rashford, as I suggested in December (insight, intuition, foresight, fluke, desperately searching for someone, anyone to help the cause 😉 ) he will add unpredictability to our frontline.

He has all the ability in the world, and whilst Emery will be demanding of him in our way, he will get the best out of him.

[Percy McCarthy]

I blame O'Neill for that, he made him bulk up.

Strange that this often gets repeated when O’Neill denies it and said at the time that he was surprised by Gabby’s change in build.

[Smithy]

I'm going to enjoy fans of other top clubs regretting making this move for Rashford and the media losing their mind as he performs well for little olf Villa. Of course it will circle back to why it didn't work at Man U at every opportunity.

The main reason it didn't work for Marcus Rashford at Man United is down to Marcus Rashford. Let's not kid ourselves. The last player I can recall who took the piss out of our club in such a manner was Gabby.

I'm genuinely stunned you'd compare Rashford at Man Utd to Gabby with us.  In Gabby's last 3 years with us (from age 29 up), he played a total of 38 times, and scored three goals.  Rashford has maintained a 1 in 3 scoring record whenever he's been called upon.

Man Utd is a shambles of a club right now, and so I won't judge a player based purely on how it's gone for them there under three different managers in three years.  Look at Scott McTominay, deemed not good enough for their midfield, and now leading the title charge at the heart of Napoli's midfield in Serie A.  Look at Antony Elanga, tearing it up at Forest.  All it seems to take is to get the decent players out of that environment and they can thrive.

McTominay and Elanga were never accused of not trying though. There's a big difference.

There's a lot of parallels with Rashford & Gabby. Talented forward players maybe too reliant on their pace and power to the detriment of the technical skills.  At the same age Rashford is now, Gabby was flying for a stint under Lambert on the LW up with Benteke and Weimann (the time to sell him in hindsight). I've memories of him being called up by England around then but not showing up for whatever reason. Never as prolific as Rashford sure but could be a very effective PL player when he wanted to be.

Detriment of their technical skills?  I'm beginning to wonder if you've ever actually watched Rashford play? He's a very technicaly, very skillful player.  Gabby had pace and was an okay finisher when on form - but his technical skills were well below average.  That's not a criticism of him, it's just he wasn't that sort of player.  He was never expected to dribble around two players and put one in the top corner - he wasn't that sort player.

Nothing like Rashford.  The only similarity is some of his own fans think he was lazy.  The difference is with Gabby it was almost universal across the fan base, whereas with Rashford there are still PLENTY of Man Utd fans who think he's been hard done by and mismanaged with a great player still in there.

[brontebilly]

I'm going to enjoy fans of other top clubs regretting making this move for Rashford and the media losing their mind as he performs well for little olf Villa. Of course it will circle back to why it didn't work at Man U at every opportunity.

The main reason it didn't work for Marcus Rashford at Man United is down to Marcus Rashford. Let's not kid ourselves. The last player I can recall who took the piss out of our club in such a manner was Gabby.

I'm genuinely stunned you'd compare Rashford at Man Utd to Gabby with us.  In Gabby's last 3 years with us (from age 29 up), he played a total of 38 times, and scored three goals.  Rashford has maintained a 1 in 3 scoring record whenever he's been called upon.

Man Utd is a shambles of a club right now, and so I won't judge a player based purely on how it's gone for them there under three different managers in three years.  Look at Scott McTominay, deemed not good enough for their midfield, and now leading the title charge at the heart of Napoli's midfield in Serie A.  Look at Antony Elanga, tearing it up at Forest.  All it seems to take is to get the decent players out of that environment and they can thrive.

McTominay and Elanga were never accused of not trying though. There's a big difference.

There's a lot of parallels with Rashford & Gabby. Talented forward players maybe too reliant on their pace and power to the detriment of the technical skills.  At the same age Rashford is now, Gabby was flying for a stint under Lambert on the LW up with Benteke and Weimann (the time to sell him in hindsight). I've memories of him being called up by England around then but not showing up for whatever reason. Never as prolific as Rashford sure but could be a very effective PL player when he wanted to be.

Detriment of their technical skills?  I'm beginning to wonder if you've ever actually watched Rashford play? He's a very technicaly, very skillful player.  Gabby had pace and was an okay finisher when on form - but his technical skills were well below average.  That's not a criticism of him, it's just he wasn't that sort of player.  He was never expected to dribble around two players and put one in the top corner - he wasn't that sort player.

Nothing like Rashford.  The only similarity is some of his own fans think he was lazy.  The difference is with Gabby it was almost universal across the fan base, whereas with Rashford there are still PLENTY of Man Utd fans who think he's been hard done by and mismanaged with a great player still in there.

There's no Man United fan I know who thinks Rashford has been hard done by at their club.

Anyway he's with us now so let's see how he gets on.

[paul_e]

There's no Man United fan I know who thinks Rashford has been hard done by at their club.

Anyway he's with us now so let's see how he gets on.

Convenient that.

I know a couple of ManU fans and when I asked they think that he's been singled out because of his wages but has also clearly let it affect his game and attitude so it's probably best for everyone for him to leave.

As for the last line, most people got there a few days ago, it's only really you still moaning about him.

[The Edge]

One of my closest friends is one of them. Glory hunting Gavin we call him but he has had a season ticket for over 20 years and Rashford is his all time favourite player. He's gutted that it's come to this. He's of the opinion that it's 50/50 as for who's to blame but he blames the club 100% for not dealing with it and allowing the situation to come to this. Oh and he's met him at a charity event and he's a thoroughly decent and charming person.

[kippaxvilla2]

The Talksport Man United fanclub Alex Crook was slagging off Rashford and the move asking if Amorim is stupid to Jim White - White said no.  However, playing Mainoo up front is a touch of genius none of us are even qualified to understand nor should we.