Marcus Rashford - signed on loan (injured - out for season?)

[Nelly]

Fully agree, Drummond - especially about improving players. Luiz was a good example of that, I feel bad for him, but without Villa's set up, it's not that simple. Whereas someone like Rogers comes in and no one sees his worth, not even the club he plays for, but Villa/Emery have a precise plan for him.

Yes to the trophy too. We've been so close under, respectfully, lesser managers with lesser setups. Matter of time

[Rudy Can't Fail]

The reason he has become available is that Amorim has been told to get rid of him and Casemiro in order to get the wage bill down and also when talking to possible new arrivals the agents can’t use their wages as what will be required.

I wish that were true, Fred. Rashford's problems are extremely well documented and I don't doubt for a second that Amorim would prefer to have a striker at the club rather than having to play Kobbie Mainoo as a false 9. Maybe he wants to get himself sacked.

He's got strikers, he picked Mainoo over Zirkzee and Hoilund against Palace.

Maybe Amorim just isn't as good as it looked like he might be?

Ha! And there was me thinking you knew a thing or two about football. I'm delighted they have Zirkzee and Hoilund, neither would make our bench and you're being very generous to call them strikers. Their recruitment has been shocking for years, long may it continue. They really have been stitched up by the Glazers, if it was any other club I'd feel sorry for the fans.

[edgysatsuma89]

You still play them over Mainoo up top, madness.

[Monty]

I think both Zirkzee and Hojlund are decent players who've been made to look worse than they are. That doesn't mean Amorim's wrong to drop them, they're low on confidence and he's casting around for anything that works (as long as it's within a shape that resolutely, steadfastly, absolutely 100% doesn't suit the actual group of players he's got). But let's say it probably won't help them much.

[kippaxvilla2]

In no one else’s world with the possible exception of Alex McLeish are you starting a game with a defensive midfielder upfront instead of two recognised and not that bad strikers.

[PeterWithesShin]

I don't think either are bad players, just that between them they aren't £100m worth of players. Which isn't their fault. They may become that, at a similar age to they are Ollie was scoring 10 in his first season at Championship level, as a bit of Villa related context.

[Rigadon]

I don't think either are bad players, just that between them they aren't £100m worth of players. Which isn't their fault. They may become that, at a similar age to they are Ollie was scoring 10 in his first season at Championship level, as a bit of Villa related context.

That puts it firmly into perspective.  Their squad is full of massively overpaid players who can't live up to the price tag, which is obviously hilarious.

[PaulTheVillan]

I don't think either are bad players, just that between them they aren't £100m worth of players. Which isn't their fault. They may become that, at a similar age to they are Ollie was scoring 10 in his first season at Championship level, as a bit of Villa related context.

That puts it firmly into perspective.  Their squad is full of massively overpaid players who can't live up to the price tag, which is obviously hilarious.

I also don’t think they’ve had good enough coaches to improve them. Both those players would be better under Emery after a year than they would be under anyone they’ve had lately.

[danno]

I don't think either are bad players, just that between them they aren't £100m worth of players. Which isn't their fault. They may become that, at a similar age to they are Ollie was scoring 10 in his first season at Championship level, as a bit of Villa related context.

That puts it firmly into perspective.  Their squad is full of massively overpaid players who can't live up to the price tag, which is obviously hilarious.

I also don’t think they’ve had good enough coaches to improve them. Both those players would be better under Emery after a year than they would be under anyone they’ve had lately.

Another difference is that we can lose 2-0 at home to Crystal Palace without it being one of the main stories for every sports outlet for three straight days. The amount of media coverage they are afforded is staggering. That can't be helpful when things aren't going well.

[PeterWithesShin]

On a human level I feel a bit for them, they didn't force Man U to overpay them and it can be easy being a young man in a new country being scrutinised and criticised so much.

On a football level it's funny as fuck that Man U are a basket case that keeps getting worse.

[Toronto Villa]

[Footy-Vill]

Man Utd Career stats all comps
Rashford 426 matches played.
Goals and Assists involvement 198

[brontebilly]

I'm going to enjoy fans of other top clubs regretting making this move for Rashford and the media losing their mind as he performs well for little olf Villa. Of course it will circle back to why it didn't work at Man U at every opportunity.

The main reason it didn't work for Marcus Rashford at Man United is down to Marcus Rashford. Let's not kid ourselves. The last player I can recall who took the piss out of our club in such a manner was Gabby.

[AV84]

I don't think either are bad players, just that between them they aren't £100m worth of players. Which isn't their fault. They may become that, at a similar age to they are Ollie was scoring 10 in his first season at Championship level, as a bit of Villa related context.

That puts it firmly into perspective.  Their squad is full of massively overpaid players who can't live up to the price tag, which is obviously hilarious.

Funnily enough, that's why this window was probably their best in several years, but it seems unlikely their fans will see it that way. They need several more where they clear out the wage bill and don't sign any overpriced and overpaid wasters.

[AV82EC]

I'm going to enjoy fans of other top clubs regretting making this move for Rashford and the media losing their mind as he performs well for little olf Villa. Of course it will circle back to why it didn't work at Man U at every opportunity.

The main reason it didn't work for Marcus Rashford at Man United is down to Marcus Rashford. Let's not kid ourselves. The last player I can recall who took the piss out of our club in such a manner was Gabby.

Cheer up bb, you can look forward to giving him low marks in scores if you think he’s going to be that bad.