Everton 0-1 The Mighty Aston Villa post match detox

[Drummond]

Which would make it funnier.

[dcdavecollett]

It was disgusting to watch six Everton players around the ref trying to get Amadou sent off. Who do they think they are, Newcastle?

[VillaTim]

That wasn't pretty and a tough watch at times , but 3 points and a clean sheet !
Thought Konsa had his best game in a while and is clearly benefiting from having Mings back in there to dominate matters , thought he was excellent.
Watkins we saw both sides of him , that trademark one on one miss 1st half then a much better finish 2nd half .

[Witton Warrior]

I don't really have that much of a problem with Everton, but selling "Make Everton Great Again" hats? Fuck off. For a club with a somewhat dodgy record of racism back in the day, co-opting the slogan of a Nazi prick isn't a good look.

Objectively, an Everton relegation would clearly be more exciting than the promoted three going straight back down for the second season in a row, though I would be happier getting rid of Man U or, more realistically, Wolves, given the choice.

A city rather than just the club itself, though that aspect gets swept under the carpet.

Nah, both. They used to sing "Everton are white" when they were the last team to have any Black players.

Oh I know, but Liverpool's record with black players was not much better, and the city itself seemed almost segregated to me.

I see what you mean now. Thought you were saying the city but not Everton rather than the city including both its well known football teams.

Anyone who was at Anfield on 5th November '77 may recall the Mighty Reds being a tad racist

[jon collett]

Liverpool was a strange place - the most left-wing city inbthe country but also fiercely racist. One of the oldest black communities but also the most segregated.

And historically known as Tory town and deeply split on sectarian lines with Liverpool the Protestant (and patriotic) Club which is all forgotten now!

[LeeB]

Liverpool was a strange place - the most left-wing city inbthe country but also fiercely racist. One of the oldest black communities but also the most segregated.

And historically known as Tory town and deeply split on sectarian lines with Liverpool the Protestant (and patriotic) Club which is all forgotten now!

I'd heard something similar too but found absolutely nothing to back it up, indeed it smells to me like the kind of thing generated by a jealous neighbour to try and attempt to discredit their more illustrious rivals.

See also 'more fans in the city' etc.

[jon collett]

Liverpool was a strange place - the most left-wing city inbthe country but also fiercely racist. One of the oldest black communities but also the most segregated.

And historically known as Tory town and deeply split on sectarian lines with Liverpool the Protestant (and patriotic) Club which is all forgotten now!

I'd heard something similar too but found absolutely nothing to back it up, indeed it smells to me like the kind of thing generated by a jealous neighbour to try and attempt to discredit their more illustrious rivals.

See also 'more fans in the city' etc.

It’s well known and established. Doesn’t sound like you looked in right places? And it wasn’t claimed by a neighbour as Everton were the. Catholic club!

[LeeB]

Liverpool was a strange place - the most left-wing city inbthe country but also fiercely racist. One of the oldest black communities but also the most segregated.

And historically known as Tory town and deeply split on sectarian lines with Liverpool the Protestant (and patriotic) Club which is all forgotten now!

I'd heard something similar too but found absolutely nothing to back it up, indeed it smells to me like the kind of thing generated by a jealous neighbour to try and attempt to discredit their more illustrious rivals.

See also 'more fans in the city' etc.

It’s well known and established. Doesn’t sound like you looked in right places? And it wasn’t claimed by a neighbour as Everton were the. Catholic club!

Oh, were they formed by the Pope?

There's some anecdotes of some people dividing that way in the early days to due the loyalties of directors on each side, and also that Liverpool itself was very sectarian way back, but no evidence at all that either club is this or that.

[cdbearsfan]

One of my old bosses supported Everton and was always telling me they were the Catholic club.

[LeeB]

One of my old bosses told me the only thing that had stopped him having a top flight career was breaking his leg on tour with the Blues youth team on a pre-season tour of Austria (this was long before you could check such shit online) and that 'you could hear the crack echo up the mountains'.

He was full of shit as well.

It was pointed out by an older colleague, who'd obviously heard this before, that actually the biggest obstacle to his potential top flight career was playing for Birmingham City.

[Sexual Ealing]

Yeah, I've always been told Everton were the left-footers (it's the kind of thing that gets talked about in Catholic schools!)

[LeeB]

There's a few bits I've read and I think someone did a proper study but found there wasn't really any evidence to it.

I've no skin it either way as I'm utterly godless.

I only long for a world where everyman is free to transport a compact living space from one place to the next for leisure purposes.

[pauliewalnuts]

Liverpool was a strange place - the most left-wing city inbthe country but also fiercely racist. One of the oldest black communities but also the most segregated.

And historically known as Tory town and deeply split on sectarian lines with Liverpool the Protestant (and patriotic) Club which is all forgotten now!

To be honest, Birmingham has also been a bit of a tory town, too, certainly compared with other major cities, probably because it's unique in so many ways.

Never underwent the historic mass unemployment of the north (at least until the 70s), employment spread out across a number of very large companies but significantly more small to medium size manufacturers so didn't have all the eggs in one basket, strong entrepreneurial spirit created lots of relatively socially mobile Victorian employers done-good who built all those nice houses up on the hill in Moseley to look down on their domains, always been a little bit 'different' from other cities in terms of ways of thought (non-conformists like the Unitarians, which is what the Chamberlains were), Quakers like the Cadburys with their well meaning social experiments (the Quakers held a lot of power in local politics until very, very recently - that's one reason there were so few late night drinking venues for so long), early venue for waves of immigration going back to the peasantry, the Irish, and so on, not tainted anywhere near as much by the shame of slavery as many other cities. A late Victorian / twentieth century city with new ideas.

It has always been 'different' and that extends to having quite a big Tory back story, plenty of Tory MPs in the past, even voted pretty much in line with the national vote on Brexit.

[Sexual Ealing]

There's a few bits I've read and I think someone did a proper study but found there wasn't really any evidence to it.

I've no skin it either way as I'm utterly godless.

I only long for a world where everyman is free to transport a compact living space from one place to the next for leisure purposes.

"Leisure purposes? What kind of decadent, gaudy, depraved exhibitionist have you become? These are our homes.

[pauliewalnuts]

There's a few bits I've read and I think someone did a proper study but found there wasn't really any evidence to it.

I've no skin it either way as I'm utterly godless.

I only long for a world where everyman is free to transport a compact living space from one place to the next for leisure purposes.

"Leisure purposes? What kind of decadent, gaudy, depraved exhibitionist have you become? These are our homes.

He's boasting about his static in Oswestry again, Paddy.

Him and his fucking Bob Warman stories. Bob Warman this, Bob Warman that.

He's probably one of his tenants. Almost everyone else is.