Aston Villa v Liverpool - Post-Match Thread

[Rigadon]

I have only seen the highlights - the Ollie Watkins one looked pretty clearly a pen to me.  Does anyone have a link to the pau Torres incident as it’s not shown on the highlights

The rugby tackle on Watkins was an obvious penalty in real time and it beggars belief VAR didn't (at least) ask him to have another look.  My stress levels won't allow me to watch a reply of that or the Torres one.

[Percy McCarthy]

Konsa has pretty well only been chosen this season when Cash has been injured, so whatever the stats do or don't say, Cash is still Unai's first choice when fit. Konsa was dreadful at right back yesterday, Carlos was awful at centre back, and one of his characteristic mistakes led directly to their second goal.

Unai always picks Konsa at RB & Carlos against the best teams, and has been proven right to do so.

Funny you criticised me for calling Mings "mongs" yet you called Konsa "Kinsa" shows how easy it is to make a typo. But unlike you I won't make up rubbish like you did yesterday and offered no apology.

What the fuck are you on about?

You very well know what im on about dont make out you dont know percy pig

Just ignore me and ill do same for me. Cant be asked with anymore of your games and nonsense

I was making a joke out of trying to get away with editing my post. Don’t be so precious.

[Meanwood Villa]

I reckon he didn't give the Watkins one because he overegged the dive.

It's been seriously shit from the Bournemouth equaliser onwards. I'd forgotten what it was like to lose all the time. Not good as it happens.

[amfy]

I reckon he didn't give the Watkins one because he overegged the dive.

I’m not sure he did. It was actually a pretty heavy challenge which the commentators continued to pretend wasn’t one at all to the extent that maybe he should have been booked for simulation. He was pushed and then tackled at hip height without the defender getting near the ball but ‘ha you’re not getting a penalty for that!’ It’s was actually bizarre.

[Risso]

I thought it looked like Watkins was far too theatrical, when you throw your arms and legs up in the air, it usually pisses refs off and they don't give the penalty.

[Percy McCarthy]

I reckon he didn't give the Watkins one because he overegged the dive.

I’m not sure he did. It was actually a pretty heavy challenge which the commentators continued to pretend wasn’t one at all to the extent that maybe he should have been booked for simulation. He was pushed and then tackled at hip height without the defender getting near the ball but ‘ha you’re not getting a penalty for that!’ It’s was actually bizarre.

Infectious, unconscious and conscious bias.

[Meanwood Villa]

I thought it looked like Watkins was far too theatrical, when you throw your arms and legs up in the air, it usually pisses refs off and they don't give the penalty.

That's my take too

[Clampy]

Let's be honest, down the other end it's given.

[Meanwood Villa]

Let's be honest, down the other end it's given.

Also true

[eye digress]

I felt the Rogers miss early in the 2nd half was the decisive point

It really was.

Other than it being a bad miss, Bailey had an open goal if played in.

Steep learning curve for Morgan, but it will come.

[LeeB]

I reckon he didn't give the Watkins one because he overegged the dive.

I’m not sure he did. It was actually a pretty heavy challenge which the commentators continued to pretend wasn’t one at all to the extent that maybe he should have been booked for simulation. He was pushed and then tackled at hip height without the defender getting near the ball but ‘ha you’re not getting a penalty for that!’ It’s was actually bizarre.

Yeah, I thought that narrative was absolute bollocks, he clatters him hip to hip as Ollie is mid stride, I was unaware hip barges when you're nowhere near the ball was absolutely fine.

If you swapped the shirts of the players for both of those incidents they'd have been given without question by any of the ref, the absolute bellend on commentary or Match of the Day.

[Demitri_C]

Konsa has pretty well only been chosen this season when Cash has been injured, so whatever the stats do or don't say, Cash is still Unai's first choice when fit. Konsa was dreadful at right back yesterday, Carlos was awful at centre back, and one of his characteristic mistakes led directly to their second goal.

Unai always picks Konsa at RB & Carlos against the best teams, and has been proven right to do so.

Funny you criticised me for calling Mings "mongs" yet you called Konsa "Kinsa" shows how easy it is to make a typo. But unlike you I won't make up rubbish like you did yesterday and offered no apology.

What the fuck are you on about?

You very well know what im on about dont make out you dont know percy pig

Just ignore me and ill do same for me. Cant be asked with anymore of your games and nonsense

I was making a joke out of trying to get away with editing my post. Don’t be so precious.

I thought jokes were meant to be funny 😂

[Richard E]

I reckon he didn't give the Watkins one because he overegged the dive.

I’m not sure he did. It was actually a pretty heavy challenge which the commentators continued to pretend wasn’t one at all to the extent that maybe he should have been booked for simulation. He was pushed and then tackled at hip height without the defender getting near the ball but ‘ha you’re not getting a penalty for that!’ It’s was actually bizarre.

Yeah, I thought that narrative was absolute bollocks, he clatters him hip to hip as Ollie is mid stride, I was unaware hip barges when you're nowhere near the ball was absolutely fine.

If you swapped the shirts of the players for both of those incidents they'd have been given without question by any of the ref, the absolute bellend on commentary or Match of the Day.

Salah got a way softer penalty against us at Anfield in 2021.

[Demitri_C]

I reckon he didn't give the Watkins one because he overegged the dive.

I’m not sure he did. It was actually a pretty heavy challenge which the commentators continued to pretend wasn’t one at all to the extent that maybe he should have been booked for simulation. He was pushed and then tackled at hip height without the defender getting near the ball but ‘ha you’re not getting a penalty for that!’ It’s was actually bizarre.

Yeah, I thought that narrative was absolute bollocks, he clatters him hip to hip as Ollie is mid stride, I was unaware hip barges when you're nowhere near the ball was absolutely fine.

If you swapped the shirts of the players for both of those incidents they'd have been given without question by any of the ref, the absolute bellend on commentary or Match of the Day.

Salah got a way softer penalty against us at Anfield in 2021.

Nothing beats that bruno one where he fouls konsa and manure get a penalty.

[LeeB]

Yes that's the one that immediately springs to mind.