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Re: Amadou Onana
« Reply #1200 on: August 24, 2025, 07:03:24 PM »
Well I think Onana is potentially good enough.

Tim isn’t, and therefore wasn’t worth keeping.

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Re: Amadou Onana
« Reply #1201 on: August 24, 2025, 07:06:29 PM »
Well I think Onana is potentially good enough.

Tim isn’t, and therefore wasn’t worth keeping.

So are you saying it was worth spending £50million pounds on Onana and many millions more on wages to recruit him?

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Re: Amadou Onana
« Reply #1202 on: August 24, 2025, 07:11:12 PM »
Potentially yep. He has all the attributes to be a top midfielder, and has put in some performances that demonstrate that. He hasn’t been consistent enough, in part due to injury, but he absolutely can do it. Whether he will I don’t know.

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Re: Amadou Onana
« Reply #1203 on: August 24, 2025, 07:15:53 PM »
Potentially yep. He has all the attributes to be a top midfielder, and has put in some performances that demonstrate that. He hasn’t been consistent enough, in part due to injury, but he absolutely can do it. Whether he will I don’t know.

So is that a yes????!!

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Re: Amadou Onana
« Reply #1204 on: August 24, 2025, 07:17:23 PM »
That he could be worth it? Yep

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Re: Amadou Onana
« Reply #1205 on: August 24, 2025, 07:23:54 PM »
That he could be worth it? Yep

Commit- c’mon you can do it.

Was it worth spending or to put it another way, was it the right decision to spend £50 million and millions of wages on Onana?

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Re: Amadou Onana
« Reply #1206 on: August 24, 2025, 07:28:21 PM »
I don’t know yet, he’s going into his second year at the club. He wasn’t signed for a year, so we’ll see.

But, and this is a difficult thing to benchmark, but if you look at players who have gone for similar fees in similar positions he’s there or there abouts.

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Re: Amadou Onana
« Reply #1207 on: August 24, 2025, 07:35:58 PM »
I don’t know yet, he’s going into his second year at the club. He wasn’t signed for a year, so we’ll see.

But, and this is a difficult thing to benchmark, but if you look at players who have gone for similar fees in similar positions he’s there or there abouts.
He just needs need to pull his socks up.

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Re: Amadou Onana
« Reply #1208 on: August 24, 2025, 07:36:48 PM »
I don’t know yet, he’s going into his second year at the club. He wasn’t signed for a year, so we’ll see.

But, and this is a difficult thing to benchmark, but if you look at players who have gone for similar fees in similar positions he’s there or there abouts.

For me, I feel like it mirrors the Delph signing from years ago. We were so close and had a limited budget and decided to spend it on potential rather than improving the first team. Just like we did with Onana.

He may come good. I just don’t think it was a smart use of the budget.

Out of curiosity, who are the similar positions:similar fees you are thinking about?

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Re: Amadou Onana
« Reply #1209 on: August 24, 2025, 07:45:15 PM »
Nunes, Keita, Tonali, Fred, and Ndombele. They’re not perfect comparisons clearly, but midfielders for similar fees. Tonali is the best of them I’d say and I think Onana isn’t that far off him.

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Re: Amadou Onana
« Reply #1210 on: August 24, 2025, 07:46:36 PM »
Nunes, Keita, Tonali, Fred, and Ndombele. They’re not perfect comparisons clearly, but midfielders for similar fees. Tonali is the best of them I’d say and I think Onana isn’t that far off him.

Tonali is miles better than Onana.

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Re: Amadou Onana
« Reply #1211 on: August 24, 2025, 07:48:12 PM »
Limited technique , all seems a bit awkward , certainly not a cultured playmaker .

You might be right in expecting more from a £50m player but you’re barking up the wrong tree about the cultured playmaker, he never has been and is highly unlikely to ever be one, not his game at all.

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Re: Amadou Onana
« Reply #1212 on: August 24, 2025, 07:49:31 PM »
Nunes, Keita, Tonali, Fred, and Ndombele. They’re not perfect comparisons clearly, but midfielders for similar fees. Tonali is the best of them I’d say and I think Onana isn’t that far off him.

Tielemans, Kamara?

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Re: Amadou Onana
« Reply #1213 on: August 24, 2025, 07:53:40 PM »
It isn’t a comparison on all midfielders, it was more trying to get a benchmark around whether £50m is completely out of whack as a fee for Onana. As I say it’s not an easy thing to benchmark, and he’s one year into his time here, but I don’t think it’s that out of whack versus what he might be in the context of the Premier League.

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Re: Amadou Onana
« Reply #1214 on: August 24, 2025, 07:56:14 PM »
It isn’t a comparison on all midfielders, it was more trying to get a benchmark around whether £50m is completely out of whack as a fee for Onana. As I say it’s not an easy thing to benchmark, and he’s one year into his time here, but I don’t think it’s that out of whack versus what he might be in the context of the Premier League.

But again, it’s slightly veering off the original question.

Given what we now know about PSR/ wage to revenue ratio etc, (what the villa hierarchy would have already known) can the Onana transfer really be seen as “good recruitment”.


 


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