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Offline PeterWithe

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #1155 on: March 23, 2026, 05:41:15 PM »
Watching the pen/subsequent none pen back in the ground yesterday on the big screen, I thought it was ludicrous it was given in the first place, it should have been as clear as day to the ref from his position that it was a very clean tackle. Still, a rare occasion where VAR has done the job it was brought in to do. So all good.

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #1156 on: March 23, 2026, 05:49:39 PM »
Agreed 100%. What also surprised me was the ref gave us advantage, we missed the shot at goal and then he went back and gave us the penalty.

Most times if you don't take advantage of the advantage given the ref just plays on.

Very inconsistent.

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #1157 on: March 23, 2026, 05:55:21 PM »
He saw Rogers effort and decided no advantage was taken. As for the pen, he might have thought the tackle came through Watkins to get the ball, ie the foul happened before any contact with the ball. Just a shame he totally disregarded the blatent fouling before entering the box as without the pulling back of the shirt and player, yellow card offences, he wouldn't have then been able to make that tackle.
« Last Edit: March 23, 2026, 05:57:22 PM by Somniloquism »

Offline Baldy

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #1158 on: March 23, 2026, 05:59:13 PM »
He saw Rogers effort and decided no advantage was taken. As for the pen, he might have thought the tackle came through Watkins to get the ball, ie the foul happened before any contact with the ball.

True but then most refs would have just played on after Rogers miss and not gone back for the pen.

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #1159 on: March 23, 2026, 06:02:05 PM »
He saw Rogers effort and decided no advantage was taken. As for the pen, he might have thought the tackle came through Watkins to get the ball, ie the foul happened before any contact with the ball. Just a shame he totally disregarded the blatent fouling before entering the box as without the pulling back of the shirt and player, yellow card offences, he wouldn't have then been able to make that tackle.
it should have been bought back for the foul on Watkins outside the box, possibly even a red card?

Offline paul_e

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #1160 on: March 23, 2026, 06:37:50 PM »
The real shame, for me, is that it was a foul for the pull back outside the box before the tackle but he waved that through.

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #1161 on: March 23, 2026, 06:44:44 PM »
The real shame, for me, is that it was a foul for the pull back outside the box before the tackle but he waved that through.

I completely agree.

There was another first half break when Rogers was being mauled but escaped to set up a chance, which we didn't take advantage of. The ref came back to correctly give a yellow to the Wham player but didn't give the foul.  That peeved me.

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #1162 on: March 24, 2026, 02:54:28 AM »
Was the foul on Ollie by the last defender?

A red in that case.

Offline Villatillidie25

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #1163 on: March 24, 2026, 03:33:41 AM »
It was possibly a red but I suspect he was just about far enough away from the goal with some defenders broadly in the vicinity but would like to see it again. He should have been booked at minimum though.
We should have done much better from the “advantage” though.
It was never a penalty and VAR worked well for once (fixing an initially poor decision, which I guess is what it’s for)

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #1164 on: March 24, 2026, 08:05:16 AM »
The real shame, for me, is that it was a foul for the pull back outside the box before the tackle but he waved that through.

I completely agree.

There was another first half break when Rogers was being mauled but escaped to set up a chance, which we didn't take advantage of. The ref came back to correctly give a yellow to the Wham player but didn't give the foul.  That peeved me.

Yes, very inconsistent.

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #1165 on: March 24, 2026, 09:48:52 AM »
It was possibly a red but I suspect he was just about far enough away from the goal with some defenders broadly in the vicinity but would like to see it again. He should have been booked at minimum though.
We should have done much better from the “advantage” though.
It was never a penalty and VAR worked well for once (fixing an initially poor decision, which I guess is what it’s for)

Yep, i agree, it was a yellow for me, which is why I think it's frustrating that it got lost in the penalty call because they guy who was holding their defence together on his own being on a yellow for an hour would've clearly helped us. I know it didn't make any difference in the end but that doesn't change that they got away with one.

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #1166 on: March 24, 2026, 09:51:40 AM »
Given the shitstorm of the weekend, is it any wonder a ref will go for the early option?

They'll be replaced with robots before very long.

With a classified directive like Robocop, programmed by someone impartial like Mike Dean.

 I like that idea. 'You have 20 seconds to comply'.....

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #1167 on: Today at 02:51:06 AM »
Without the holding by Mavropanos, he would never have been in a position to make his clean tackle on Ollie.

Offline FrankyH

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #1168 on: Today at 03:09:37 AM »
Given the shitstorm of the weekend, is it any wonder a ref will go for the early option?

They'll be replaced with robots before very long.

With a classified directive like Robocop, programmed by someone impartial like Mike Dean.

 I like that idea. 'You have 20 seconds to comply'.....

Needed this when Robbie Savage parked his breakfast in the ref's toilet and couldn't be bother to flush it !

 


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