Standard of Refereeing

[Drummond]

Another one that gets me is using the defenders arm to make either player on or offside. You can't use your arms to score or defend so why are they in any way relevant?

It's not handball until it hits the arm below the shirt line (of a short-sleeved shirt).

[The Edge]

When did this "we can be wrong by 5cm" come in and does it always favour the attacking team? A new one on me. I'm not sure its right either, it just means the offside line has moved 5cm so at 6cm you are off.
As ever the referees have a rule they pull out to defend themselves.

Exactly.
Im sure we have had a couple of goals ruled out by millimetres in the past.

We have and so have many other clubs. This is the point I've been trying to make on here. VAR suddenly invoke the 5cm tolerance rule on Saturday to allow a goal that was offside to everyone that saw it. Even Jamie Carragher said so at the time. The question is why? If it means they're going to stop disallowing goals because of a toenail being offside I'm all for it. I look forward to the next time that happens and I would expect the club involved to be asking "what about the 5cm tolerance you used to allow Liverpool's goal at Fulham?"

[ChicagoLion]

Another one that gets me is using the defenders arm to make either player on or offside. You can't use your arms to score or defend so why are they in any way relevant?

I thought the vertical line was from the armpit

It’s where they decide it to be.
It is looking more and more like deliberate manipulation.

[Skipper_The_Eyechild]

For your first point, that is why additional line thickness was added at the request of the clubs. And I'm not sure on your last line as everyone's setup is SAOT, ie the computer works out where everyone is and tries to confirm offside, then the VAR person confirms it or overrides if there is an issue. Even with that system there is still the frame issue you are complaining about. But as we saw last season when ManU were given a last minute equaliser in the FA Cup when Maguire was a yard offside, I prefer VAR then not to stop those happening. If it means mm calls are still vague then I won't be complaining or stating the tech is not fit for purpose.

Completely agree. I've also been guilty of paying to much heed to how the lines in the grass are as if the groundsman have to be 100% accurate straight lines.

[astonvilla82]

Even at local l Sunday league level you always had referees favouring certain teams

[ChicagoLion]

Even at local l Sunday league level you always had referees favouring certain teams

I played in a league where the refs were affiliated to the clubs you played against, talk about homers.

[Rico]

Arsenal's third goal against us looked well offside to me, but there was barely any mention of it at all. They just make it up as they go along.