Everton vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Chico Hamilton III]

It's a proper mess and they are tying themselves up in circles each week with the inconsistencies.

I didn't move when we scored, Bailey did look off on first glance. It's now part of the game, sitting still, no celebration, just waiting for a forensic analysis of what you have just seen. And they call it progress. Utterly depressing.

Look how it impacted the atmosphere against Burnley the other week. No proper celebration, everyone waiting for the inevitable reference to VAR and by the time a decision is made the spontaneity is lost. it’s a shit piece of kit that is ruining games but it also seems that only the Premier League manages to fuck things up so comprehensively. Fun-denying sad little men in studios, dictating results.

The game’s gone, etc……

[Monty]

Semi-automated offsides would improve this no end. They took five minutes deciding a really obvious offside and distracting themselves with other horseshit. Just ludicrous.

[LeeB]

My feed was a bit delayed, so I had seen PWS's scorchio and was waiting for the outcome. As soon as the ball went back to Bailey I thought 'he's off, it will be ruled out', but then I hadn't seen Danjuma.

Once they showed the picture across the six yard line that was that. They need to fire PGMOL and all who sail in her into the sun.

[brontebilly]

It was a pretty dire game, in reality. We dominated the ball, as we tend to do these days, but we didn't create lots of clear cut chances. On balance, we deserved to win the game, but a point away from home is never a terrible result.  Everton are 8th in the form table for the last 10 games, so it wasn't a forgone conclusion we'd win (though I thought we would).

I like that we're tidy and technically very good at knocking it around, but it does seem to break down so often in the final third.  I'm not blaming Ollie specifically, but we really do need to find a way to more clinical in the final third.  If we could be as good in the final third as we currently are in the defensive and middle thirds, we'd truly be a sight to behold.

Given the other results this weekend, a draw hasn't hurt us too much, but we must win at home to Newcastle, not only to avenge the opening day, but also to put them firmly in our rear view mirror for the rest of the season.  Beat them, and that's their top 4 aspirations done for the season (they probably are now, but if they win at our place it would give them hope).

Part of our challenge is given the lack of height and aerial presence in the team we really aren't much of a threat at set pieces. Would have been crazy to start lumping them in against a Dyche team so made sense to try them short and Moreno's goal came from one of them. We still had decent chances yesterday, Cash looked certain to score and it took an unbelievable block to stop him. Duran just wide, would have been a cracking winner. McGinn outside the box just wide. Diaby in same play should have had a certain penalty. Likes of Bailey and Watkins forced solid saves in the first half.

I don't think it was a day yesterday for Luiz to start breaking ahead of Watkins like what a Platt or Lampard used to but maybe sometimes that's required to break a deep defence. Their kick and rush was still a threat, especially with Carlos on the pitch liable to do anything.

[Brend'Watkins]

Carlos is a weak link in our team. He's not terrible overall but some of his positioning for a central defender is truly awful. He's a back up at most.

[LeeB]

Carlos is a weak link in our team. He's not terrible overall but some of his positioning for a central defender is truly awful. He's a back up at most.

I agree, I think Lenglet is better.

[London Villan]

We are currently operating with our 5th choice of centre-backs, so there will be a drop in quality.

[Risso]

Carlos is a weak link in our team. He's not terrible overall but some of his positioning for a central defender is truly awful. He's a back up at most.

I agree, I think Lenglet is better.

They're not competing for the same spot though. We looked quite a bit better when Carlos went off, and Cash and Konsa moved into their rightful places. I'm not entirely sure why Emery perseveres with the Konsa at right back and Carlos in defence thing, it's not as good as having Konsa in the middle and Cash at right back.

[LeeB]

Carlos is a weak link in our team. He's not terrible overall but some of his positioning for a central defender is truly awful. He's a back up at most.

I agree, I think Lenglet is better.

They're not competing for the same spot though. We looked quite a bit better when Carlos went off, and Cash and Konsa moved into their rightful places. I'm not entirely sure why Emery perseveres with the Konsa at right back and Carlos in defence thing, it's not as good as having Konsa in the middle and Cash at right back.

I know that, I'm just saying I think he's a better player. I too thought we looked loads better with Cash (and Tielemans) on.

[Drummond]

It's a proper mess and they are tying themselves up in circles each week with the inconsistencies.

I didn't move when we scored, Bailey did look off on first glance. It's now part of the game, sitting still, no celebration, just waiting for a forensic analysis of what you have just seen. And they call it progress. Utterly depressing.

Same here, first reaction is 'nah, thats not standing'.

Its ruining the game for spectators, and thats what will drive change.

Not if it doesn't ruin it for the neutral TV audience unfortunately.

[Bad English]

Ignore

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[Drummond]

Tielemans and Buendia being fit would make the difference right now. They see, and try, passes that others just don't and would bring Diaby, Watkins and Bailey into the game more.

As for yesterday, Tarkowski should absolutely have been sent off,and could have been more than once. The referee was weak and played to the crowd reaction. If that had been at Villa Park Tarkowski would have seen red for sure.

I was a bit pissed off near the end with the slow build up from the back, but mainly because I thought Kamara and Luiz didn't seem to move much to get the ball either, it felt like we'd settled for the point.

However, it's a draw away from home and that's not to be sniffed at. Home win next time out though please.

[Risso]

Not if it doesn't ruin it for the neutral TV audience unfortunately.

It pretty well does as well though. 5 minutes yesterday listening to the commentators blather on, with no proper explanation on screen at all. It's just absolutely hopeless. When you've got the richest and most popular sport in the wrold that is based on its speed and excitement, why in the name of god would you bring in something that slows it down and makes it much less exciting? Be like F1 making cars stop for an MOT half way round.

[Duncan Shaw]

Not if it doesn't ruin it for the neutral TV audience unfortunately.

It pretty well does as well though. 5 minutes yesterday listening to the commentators blather on, with no proper explanation on screen at all. It's just absolutely hopeless. When you've got the richest and most popular sport in the wrold that is based on its speed and excitement, why in the name of god would you bring in something that slows it down and makes it much less exciting? Be like F1 making cars stop for an MOT half way round.

It was quite handy, managed to pop for a piss, get another beer from the fridge and I missed nothing!  And knew it was going to be knocked off anyway!

[Drummond]

Sorry, my point was that it's likely to be affected by the TV audience more than by the match going fan.

And yes Duncan I agree, it does give scope for a wee and chance to get another beer without pausing the coverage.