Fans Advisory Board meeting

[Gareth]

And given then above, they have decided they don't want to tell the fanbase this yet, as it'll create a huge amount of noise, so they've opted for obfuscation and nonsense.

This wouldn’t be so bad but I fear the real answer is worse and Heck’s only personal targets are financial!

That's my feeling too Jon. I don't think they're looking at a new site, as that's a ten year plan, and if they don't want to knock down the North Stand because excuses, they're certainly not going to want to knock the whole lot down and start again. I think the plan for the medium term is to squeeze a few more seats in, increase the hospitality offering where possible then rinse everybody with price rises until the pips squeak.

As an example, I'm fully expecting the Holte car park to be not used as car parking next season. We'll probably get shifted to that Y International place and they'll put a big marquee up as another "enhanced" offering in the car park.

My thought was with BCC being skint they buy the bit of park the other side of the road from Witton Lane stand…level it, whack up marquee and do a hospitality option there

[pauliewalnuts]

And given then above, they have decided they don't want to tell the fanbase this yet, as it'll create a huge amount of noise, so they've opted for obfuscation and nonsense.

This wouldn’t be so bad but I fear the real answer is worse and Heck’s only personal targets are financial!

That's my feeling too Jon. I don't think they're looking at a new site, as that's a ten year plan, and if they don't want to knock down the North Stand because excuses, they're certainly not going to want to knock the whole lot down and start again. I think the plan for the medium term is to squeeze a few more seats in, increase the hospitality offering where possible then rinse everybody with price rises until the pips squeak.

As an example, I'm fully expecting the Holte car park to be not used as car parking next season. We'll probably get shifted to that Y International place and they'll put a big marquee up as another "enhanced" offering in the car park.

I am pretty sure I read somewhere a while ago that they absolute are planning to do exactly that.

[DeKuip]

I'd be interested to know how they are estimating the demand for tickets. As an example I want four tickets for Burnley tomorrow, if I can't get four on this occasion I won't go as we will need to do something else together. To the club would I just be seen as someone on the waiting list who didn't go to the game? The way the statement was worded implies they just think one unsold seat means no-one else wanted to go, which would be insane.

Good points. I’m sure there are many fans who’d like to take a child with them to occasional games but end up not going at all because either there are only single seats available (understandable) or when they find two together they’re being expected to pay the adult price for the child (totally unfair).

If you’re standing outside the ground selling fanzines, for instance, and you sell out, I imagine you’re thinking that you should have ordered more. If you’ve got a handful left you know everyone who wanted one has bought one and you’ve ordered the right amount.

Heck appears to be using that logic to selling seats, but it’s totally different for the reasons pointed out by Caster Troy above. A football stadium would be the right size if there was a block of empty seats left really - as you’d know you’ve sold all you could.

[pauliewalnuts]

When you have 42,000 seats and you consistently undersell by 200, that's not a problem of demand not being there. It's a problem of the 200 seats being unsellable, be they RV, single seats, whatever.

I am staggered they think we are sufficiently stupid to not see through that.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

When you have 42,000 seats and you consistently undersell by 200, that's not a problem of demand not being there. It's a problem of the 200 seats being unsellable, be they RV, single seats, whatever.

I am staggered they think we are sufficiently stupid to not see through that.

This.
With feckin' knobs on!

[tony scott]

I don’t understand the 200 tickets undersold I was visiting from Oz earlier this year and I couldn’t get a single ticket for the last game of the season, the only exception corporate/ hospitality packages.

[London Villan]

I don’t understand the 200 tickets undersold I was visiting from Oz earlier this year and I couldn’t get a single ticket for the last game of the season, the only exception corporate/ hospitality packages.

This is where i think the issue is. Not the general admission, but enough demand to fill an additional 2000 premium seats every match.

[Des Little]

I’d imagine the majority of the new North would have been designated premium seating, and the fact we can’t shift the ones we’ve got have had a huge bearing on the decision. That of course means our ST prices will dramatically increase to try and bridge the gap.

[claret+blue ed]

And given then above, they have decided they don't want to tell the fanbase this yet, as it'll create a huge amount of noise, so they've opted for obfuscation and nonsense.

This wouldn’t be so bad but I fear the real answer is worse and Heck’s only personal targets are financial!

That's my feeling too Jon. I don't think they're looking at a new site, as that's a ten year plan, and if they don't want to knock down the North Stand because excuses, they're certainly not going to want to knock the whole lot down and start again. I think the plan for the medium term is to squeeze a few more seats in, increase the hospitality offering where possible then rinse everybody with price rises until the pips squeak.

As an example, I'm fully expecting the Holte car park to be not used as car parking next season. We'll probably get shifted to that Y International place and they'll put a big marquee up as another "enhanced" offering in the car park.

I am pretty sure I read somewhere a while ago that they absolute are planning to do exactly that.

I’m sure I have seen lots of posts on this site actually suggesting the Holte car park be made into a fan zone with a large marquee, I know you are suggesting  this is for corporate, but it would still mean losing the car park spaces

[Percy McCarthy]

I'd be interested to know how they are estimating the demand for tickets. As an example I want four tickets for Burnley tomorrow, if I can't get four on this occasion I won't go as we will need to do something else together. To the club would I just be seen as someone on the waiting list who didn't go to the game? The way the statement was worded implies they just think one unsold seat means no-one else wanted to go, which would be insane.

Good points. I’m sure there are many fans who’d like to take a child with them to occasional games but end up not going at all because either there are only single seats available (understandable) or when they find two together they’re being expected to pay the adult price for the child (totally unfair).

Yep. I have paid adult prices for my 11 year old boy, and not gone to games alone when I couldn’t get tickets for him and my daughter. I doubt if I’ll go again for the next few years if I can’t get them in as well.

[Pat McMahon]

When you have 42,000 seats and you consistently undersell by 200, that's not a problem of demand not being there. It's a problem of the 200 seats being unsellable, be they RV, single seats, whatever.

I am staggered they think we are sufficiently stupid to not see through that.

This.
With feckin' knobs on!

This with claret and blue gold plated knobs!

[Risso]

Seems coincidental that at the time the new enhanced packages are introduced and are rumoured not to be exactly selling like hot cakes, the club stops announcing the attendances at games. Trying to find out the gate afterwards is like looking for rocking horse shit.

[tomd2103]

When you have 42,000 seats and you consistently undersell by 200, that's not a problem of demand not being there. It's a problem of the 200 seats being unsellable, be they RV, single seats, whatever.

I am staggered they think we are sufficiently stupid to not see through that.

In the build up to the Sheff Utd game, some family members said they were going to visit and could they get tickets for the match. 

I kept looking the week before and every day there were a few single seats come up and blocks that added up to.200 or so I'm the Trinity and Holte.  You couldn't book those as they were presumably for corporate. 

Luckily on the Thursday a row of ten or so became available in the Trinity (guessed it must have been a supporter's club returning unsold ones) so I could get some.  I noticed that the same blocks remained pretty much unsold. 

Why not just make them for general sale a week or so before the game if they haven't been sold at that point?

[dave.woodhall]

When you have 42,000 seats and you consistently undersell by 200, that's not a problem of demand not being there. It's a problem of the 200 seats being unsellable, be they RV, single seats, whatever.

I am staggered they think we are sufficiently stupid to not see through that.

In the build up to the Sheff Utd game, some family members said they were going to visit and could they get tickets for the match. 

I kept looking the week before and every day there were a few single seats come up and blocks that added up to.200 or so I'm the Trinity and Holte.  You couldn't book those as they were presumably for corporate. 

Luckily on the Thursday a row of ten or so became available in the Trinity (guessed it must have been a supporter's club returning unsold ones) so I could get some.  I noticed that the same blocks remained pretty much unsold. 

Why not just make them for general sale a week or so before the game if they haven't been sold at that point?

They do, they just don't tell anyone.

[kippaxvilla2]

Fcuking hell even the noses publish their attendance figures.  What the Heck is going on?!