Aston Villa vs Crystal Palace Post-Match

[MattW]

I watched this clip of the dug-out when Luiz scores about 15 times on loop. McGinn, Moreno (such a good guy) and MacPhee stood out.

https://x.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1703378768432336945?t=G5j4iV-_-x0NgN3BliD2Fg&s=09

Kamara a bit flat.

[Risso]

I watched this clip of the dug-out when Luiz scores about 15 times on loop. McGinn, Moreno (such a good good guy) and MacPhee stood out.

https://x.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1703378768432336945?t=G5j4iV-_-x0NgN3BliD2Fg&s=09

Kamara a bit flat.

He looked absolutely disgusted to be taken off. As I said when Tielemans was having a minor moan: "play better then."

[pauliewalnuts]

Agreed on Kamara, he had a poor game yesterday, he can hardly be surprised at getting hooked.

[Exeter 77]

It was much more of a penalty than Johnson's tackle on Gabby in the Villa Park game against Small Heath in April 2010 and we got that one as well.

Both 100% pens, only denied by people who don’t know the rules.

“Oh but he played the ball”. Irrelevant.

Exactly that

[PaulWinch again]

Yeah he’s not quite got into gear this season. Hopefully his top form is just round the corner, both he and SJM struggled yesterday.

[pauliewalnuts]

It was much more of a penalty than Johnson's tackle on Gabby in the Villa Park game against Small Heath in April 2010 and we got that one as well.

Both 100% pens, only denied by people who don’t know the rules.

“Oh but he played the ball”. Irrelevant.

Exactly that

That "he played the ball so it can't be a penalty" that you hear all over the place really fucking annoys me.

That Blues one, their player, I think it was Roger Johnson, was absolutely adamant that if you play the ball, it can't be a penalty.

[Toronto Villa]

I said on the Match thread, if the aggrieved party was Harry Kane this wouldn’t be a debate. It wouldn’t have been a review other than to quickly confirm the on field decision. MOTD pundits wouldn’t have discussed any of it.

[AV84]

I watched this clip of the dug-out when Luiz scores about 15 times on loop. McGinn, Moreno (such a good good guy) and MacPhee stood out.

https://x.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1703378768432336945?t=G5j4iV-_-x0NgN3BliD2Fg&s=09

Kamara a bit flat.

He looked absolutely disgusted to be taken off. As I said when Tielemans was having a minor moan: "play better then."

I think it's interesting to see the mentality of certain players in regards to playing time. It's understandable that a player wants to play all the time, but I feel like the sport is shifting into a full squad game, or at least the most successful clubs are. One of the keys to Man City's success has been Pep's rotation of players, and having a squad with depth and quality in all positions, so basically nobody is guaranteed a spot if they're not performing.

I think that's what Emery is trying to build at Villa, and some players will buy into it, and others won't. Gone are the days where there's a set 11 players and 4 or 5 career subs. If you want to be guaranteed to play every minute of every game then you probably need to play for a much smaller club and be a big fish in a small pond. If you want to be part of a team that's challenging for trophies and achieving things, then you need to a) accept you're part of a wider squad, and b) play well consistently and don't give anyone the opportunity to replace you.

[Risso]

I watched this clip of the dug-out when Luiz scores about 15 times on loop. McGinn, Moreno (such a good good guy) and MacPhee stood out.

https://x.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1703378768432336945?t=G5j4iV-_-x0NgN3BliD2Fg&s=09

Kamara a bit flat.

He looked absolutely disgusted to be taken off. As I said when Tielemans was having a minor moan: "play better then."

I think it's interesting to see the mentality of certain players in regards to playing time. It's understandable that a player wants to play all the time, but I feel like the sport is shifting into a full squad game, or at least the most successful clubs are. One of the keys to Man City's success has been Pep's rotation of players, and having a squad with depth and quality in all positions, so basically nobody is guaranteed a spot if they're not performing.

I think that's what Emery is trying to build at Villa, and some players will buy into it, and others won't. Gone are the days where there's a set 11 players and 4 or 5 career subs. If you want to be guaranteed to play every minute of every game then you probably need to play for a much smaller club and be a big fish in a small pond. If you want to be part of a team that's challenging for trophies and achieving things, then you need to a) accept you're part of a wider squad, and b) play well consistently and don't give anyone the opportunity to replace you.

Agreed. I'd never want a player to be happy about being subbed, but I would very much expect them to at least look a bit pleased when the team scores a goal.

[fredm]

I think people have said McGinn was not up to his usual standard. I think there have been other occasions when he has come back from playing two internationals, plus travelling, when he does not reach his usual self in the next match. I hope when Ramsey maintains full fitness this will be covered by giving McGinn a breather.

[AGRIPPA]

Perhaps Kamara was pissed off with himself rather tha.man with being subbed??

[Astnor]

I watched this clip of the dug-out when Luiz scores about 15 times on loop. McGinn, Moreno (such a good guy) and MacPhee stood out.

https://x.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1703378768432336945?t=G5j4iV-_-x0NgN3BliD2Fg&s=09

Kamara a bit flat.

Emery allows himself about one second of celebration and then quickly over to Dendoncker to get him ready to enter to defend the lead.

[Toronto Villa]

This is a really good look at the penalty. Ollie clearly touches the ball and then gets taken out. There isn’t much more to discuss.

https://x.com/maxcpfc21/status/1703140513493250084?s=46

[Hookeysmith]

Two observations that I've not seen discussed.

Firstly why was Edoudes goal not checked for offside as it looked as close as Diabys

Secondly very late on Bailey and Duran were involved in a clear foul that warranted a booking. The ref Booked Bailey when I thought it was clearly Duran who committed the foul. Less than 2 mins later Duran pulls back a player and is duly given a yellow but I was convinced it was his 2nd yell9w.



Maybe the big clubs get all the decisions after all

Great win and watching Chelsea today looking forward in doing them again this season.

[PeterWithesShin]

He wasn't offside as he was behind the ball.