Aston Villa vs Crystal Palace Post-Match

[ChicagoLion]

It was a pen, having minimal contact with the ball ( if there was any contact) does not allow you to then play the man, if he had got meaningful contact with the ball, diverted the ball away from Watkins before colliding with him, then it would be a legitimate tackle. He didn’t, it wasn’t, Penalty.

[astonvilla82]

Penalty all day long,if that happens outside the area it's a foul, that what the referee saw,ask Harry Kane he would know

[Percy McCarthy]

It was much more of a penalty than Johnson's tackle on Gabby in the Villa Park game against Small Heath in April 2010 and we got that one as well.

Both 100% pens, only denied by people who don’t know the rules.

“Oh but he played the ball”. Irrelevant.

[Villa Lew]

Needed that win with 6 games in 17 days, coming up, in the league Chelsea, Brighton and Wolves, after that little lot, it will give us a fair idea how our season's gonna pan out.

Absolutely delighted for Jhon, a sensational goal, that of a natural striker, only 19 the lad looks to have tremendous potential. I thought it was a pen, but the pen should have been retaken, Diaby was clearly encroaching, how VAR missed it I'll never know, but I'm certainly not complaining!

[Risso]

It was much more of a penalty than Johnson's tackle on Gabby in the Villa Park game against Small Heath in April 2010 and we got that one as well.

Both 100% pens, only denied by people who don’t know the rules.

“Oh but he played the ball”. Irrelevant.

Absolutely. If you put both hands on a forward's shoulders, and yanked him back, and then kicked the ball away, people wouldn't be using "but he played the ball" as  defence in that situation. He missed the ball, took Ollie's legs away, then kicked the ball as they both fell over. And that is a cast iron penalty, I hope that the ref's assessor applauds him for making the right decision and then for sticking to his guns.

[SoccerHQ]

For them, I thought Eze was very pacey and tricky to handle but his passing/distribution to teammates wasn’t that great.

I'd love to sign him. He's everything Buendia was hyped up to be but hasn't really aside from a few good games here and there.

Think Eze could be as good a signing as Maddison has been so far from Spurs although guess only chance to sign him for decent fee is if they get relegated which is very unlikely this season.

[Holte132]

Needed that win with 6 games in 17 days, coming up, in the league Chelsea, Brighton and Wolves, after that little lot, it will give us a fair idea how our season's gonna pan out.

Absolutely delighted for Jhon, a sensational goal, that of a natural striker, only 19 the lad looks to have tremendous potential. I thought it was a pen, but the pen should have been retaken, Diaby was clearly encroaching, how VAR missed it I'll never know, but I'm certainly not complaining!

I checked that out, about the encroachment. Apparently they only penalise it if the ball rebounds back into play.  https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/48382254

[Brazilian Villain]

Penalty all day long,if that happens outside the area it's a foul, that what the referee saw,ask Harry Kane he would know

Yeah, even Savage on 606 said it was a 'stonewall' penalty.

[Ger Regan]

What a day. Immensely frustrating first 87 minutes but after that more than made up for it. I was directly in line with the penalty challenge in the trinity and was convinced it was going to be overturned as I saw him get the ball (didn't see the contact before it). What a finish from duran, and the last was a typical villa goal under emery. First time in the New Inns with a few pals of bren's, I even risked the guinness in there, after my, erm, issues earlier in the week and have to admit it's a good pint (which has resulted in me being branded a traitor by my partner).
Cheers again to BE for sorting my ticket (I'm still not able to renew my claret membership on the villa website despite it being with their support team for over 2 weeks).
Also, hopefully the 2 beside me who left on the 86th minute didn't get too far.

[LeeB]

A word for Tielemans, who played the key pass for goals 2 and 3.

And exactly the kind vertical, perfectly weighted through balls I thought we'd benefit from by signing him

[oldtimernow]

There was a whiff of prime Fergies ManUre about that win yesterday. 85 mins losing . FT won 3-1 . Superb.

Fergie time too!

[Villa Lew]

Needed that win with 6 games in 17 days, coming up, in the league Chelsea, Brighton and Wolves, after that little lot, it will give us a fair idea how our season's gonna pan out.

Absolutely delighted for Jhon, a sensational goal, that of a natural striker, only 19 the lad looks to have tremendous potential. I thought it was a pen, but the pen should have been retaken, Diaby was clearly encroaching, how VAR missed it I'll never know, but I'm certainly not complaining!

I checked that out, about the encroachment. Apparently they only penalise it if the ball rebounds back into play.  https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/48382254

Oh right thanks, I've learned something.

[Risso]

A word for Tielemans, who played the key pass for goals 2 and 3.

And exactly the kind vertical, perfectly weighted through balls I thought we'd benefit from by signing him

Oe of his strengths is supposed to be running with the ball and beating players one-on-one, I hope we get to see a bit more of that from him soon. The long pases were ace though.

[AV84]

Needed that win with 6 games in 17 days, coming up, in the league Chelsea, Brighton and Wolves, after that little lot, it will give us a fair idea how our season's gonna pan out.

Absolutely delighted for Jhon, a sensational goal, that of a natural striker, only 19 the lad looks to have tremendous potential. I thought it was a pen, but the pen should have been retaken, Diaby was clearly encroaching, how VAR missed it I'll never know, but I'm certainly not complaining!

I checked that out, about the encroachment. Apparently they only penalise it if the ball rebounds back into play.  https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/48382254

I know we all praise his speed, and it's definitely going to be an asset more than it's a hindrance, but he did get into the box very quickly there, thankfully it didn't matter.  For his disallowed goal too, I'd say he was onside when Torres decided to pass it but in the second it took him to play it, Diaby was off. Very tight mind, but that's how quick he is. But then we saw the positive of that when he got onto Tielemans pass for the 3rd goal. I'd assume Tielemans knew it was Diaby and weighted it knowing his speed would get him there, because I don't think anyone else was running that ball down before it went out.

[tomd2103]

I think Torres just needs to learn when to close space better. It was poor to get turned by Mateta yesterday, but also what the hell happened in the middle? Edouard should never have had so much space.

Obviously Torres was on the wing so Digne was even further up, so Kamala or Luiz should have been dropping back to help Konsa. I’m guessing one or both didn’t do that.

A few people have said this already but I think maybe the "problem" we have is in midfield. It's not to say the players aren't good, but depending on who we're playing, and how the game is going, it's in midfield that things break down. I think Diaby, who is really more of a forward, and maybe Luiz, are the only two that have been consistent this season. The others have been hit and miss. I do think we're really missing Ramsey in there and once he's back the likes of Bailey, Zaniolo, Tielemans, and maybe even Kamara, will be rotated in and out between Europe and league games. Luiz, McGinn, Ramsey and Diaby should be the core of the midfield.

I agree.  Ramsey excelled in that position last season, but others have struggled there and it makes us a bit unbalanced. 

It was just a bit congested in the middle of the park yesterday and there wasn’t much time on the ball.