Aston Villa vs Crystal Palace Post-Match

[paul_e]

Generally I don't pay too much attention to the whinging on the match thread, if people want to vent that way then fair enough but can the 'only 1 striker' thing be put to bed, Duran is a fantastic prospect who hasn't let us down and now has 3 goals from about 150minutes of game time this season.

The only other observation is that there was a bit of criticism of Doug on the match thread that made no sense to me, I thought he was the best player on the pitch by a very long way.

[The Edge]

I'm in Dublin for the weekend and have been out all afternoon and got back about 5pm, jumped on here to see how the match went and it was 1-1, I wasn't happy but then saw the stoppage time was running at about 9 minutes.  Where did it all come from?  Was there a bad injury?  The final result is going to make the pints better tonight.

At 0-1 Sam Johnson went down clutching his calf after a massive slice of luck when Watkins hit the post and the rebound hit him on the head but went just wide of the post. He then played the rest of the game with no sign of injury so it must of been a miracle! Palace wasted a lot of time too which came back to bite them on the arse big time.

[villadelph]

Unai got every single substitution correct.

[AV84]

I've defended Watkins a lot, and I still think he brings more to the team than just scoring (or not scoring), but he does seem to be on a really bad run lately. I know some players have to play their way back into form but it's getting very close to the point now where it's hard to see why we wouldn't try something else up front.

I'm still not sure if Duran is a 90 minutes option for us, but even trying something like Diaby and Zaniolo upfront, especially when Ramsey is back, might be an option.

[passport1]

I am currently in Spain and watched the game on DAZN while my son back home was watching with a 10 min delay. He was begging me to let him know the outcome of the penalty. I decided he would enjoy it better by waiting for the outcome.

[Axl Rose]

I fully and completely back this manager after he took us to 7th in two thirds of last season.

Disappointing to see negativity creep into match threads when things go against us. We always have a chance of a turnaround with this manager.

Get a grip, mate.

It's a match thread on a football forum. What do you think is going to happen when we are losing at home to Palace, and not playing that well?

I’m with Villain82 on this one. Some posts sound like they are written by primary school kids with players veering from being total shit to world beaters within minutes.

I'm not.

He's talking out of his arse, I'm afraid.

But anyway, we won, it's not far off 2am here and I'm going to have a cigar on the balcony

[paul_e]

I've defended Watkins a lot, and I still think he brings more to the team than just scoring (or not scoring), but he does seem to be on a really bad run lately. I know some players have to play their way back into form but it's getting very close to the point now where it's hard to see why we wouldn't try something else up front.

I'm still not sure if Duran is a 90 minutes option for us, but even trying something like Diaby and Zaniolo upfront, especially when Ramsey is back, might be an option.

Poor with th eone-on-one he missed, unlucky with the one that came back off the post, superb run for the penalty. Exactly the sort of mixed bag performance that he gives when he's a bit out of nick.

[edgysatsuma89]

Watched the penalty review again. What the fuck were they saying to the ref from VAR? It was a clear penalty, yet it seems they did everything possible to create doubt in the refs mind.

I really don't think it was a clear pen, if he gets a touch initially before he takes Watkins out then it isn't. I just don't think he quite gets that touch which is ultimately what he decided as well.

[Bad English]

Generally I don't pay too much attention to the whinging on the match thread, if people want to vent that way then fair enough but can the 'only 1 striker' thing be put to bed, Duran is a fantastic prospect who hasn't let us down and now has 3 goals from about 150minutes of game time this season.

The only other observation is that there was a bit of criticism of Doug on the match thread that made no sense to me, I thought he was the best player on the pitch by a very long way.

This is exactly the sort of analysis that is threatening to plague match threads. I put it to you, do we want to read this sort of thing during a game? Tsk!

[Toronto Villa]

Watched the penalty review again. What the fuck were they saying to the ref from VAR? It was a clear penalty, yet it seems they did everything possible to create doubt in the refs mind.

I really don't think it was a clear pen, if he gets a touch initially before he takes Watkins out then it isn't. I just don't think he quite gets that touch which is ultimately what he decided as well.

It took an eternity and even included a lengthy monitor review. It had to be a clear mistake to overturn and it wasn’t even a mistake.

[Chris_Jephcott]

I've defended Watkins a lot, and I still think he brings more to the team than just scoring (or not scoring), but he does seem to be on a really bad run lately. I know some players have to play their way back into form but it's getting very close to the point now where it's hard to see why we wouldn't try something else up front.

I'm still not sure if Duran is a 90 minutes option for us, but even trying something like Diaby and Zaniolo upfront, especially when Ramsey is back, might be an option.

I agree entirely on that. Watkins gives constant effort and hard work to the team. There were a couple of times today when he was defending, launching a counter attack - it’s his usual commitment.

However, he is not a finisher. Even when he has been on form in the past, he’s missed a good few and has had a tendency to hit the post.

In short, I like him a lot. And I have tried to defend him, but I think given where we want to be, he’s not the answer. Sadly. I would have loved to him have been…

Maybe one day he’ll silence my doubts, but I still find myself doubting his ability to finish. In a 1v1, with a good premier league striker, the odds should always be in their favour. In Ollie’s case, I’d be favouring the keeper.

Duran is worth a punt, as is the aforementioned suggestion of Diaby and Zaniolo playing together with Ramsey just behind.

[paul_e]

Generally I don't pay too much attention to the whinging on the match thread, if people want to vent that way then fair enough but can the 'only 1 striker' thing be put to bed, Duran is a fantastic prospect who hasn't let us down and now has 3 goals from about 150minutes of game time this season.

The only other observation is that there was a bit of criticism of Doug on the match thread that made no sense to me, I thought he was the best player on the pitch by a very long way.

This is exactly the sort of analysis that is threatening to plague match threads. I put it to you. Do we want to read this sort of thing during a game?

Good thing this isn't a match thread isn't it.

[The Edge]

Watched the penalty review again. What the fuck were they saying to the ref from VAR? It was a clear penalty, yet it seems they did everything possible to create doubt in the refs mind.

I criticised the ref on the match thread but he did the unthinkable in the end by sticking to his original decision even after being sent to the screen to have a look so fair do's to him. I watched it in a bar in Portugal and couldn't believe the shite the co-commentator who I think was Paul Robinson (the ex keeper)came out with. Kept saying over and over that it was definitely not a pen and the ref "must surely" disallow the pen. Even the Welsh neutrals who were sat by me were all saying "what the fuck is he talking about?" It was a definite pen imo opinion but obviously I'm biased.

[shipscat]

Instant Good Villa karma on behalf of myself. Promised Mrs Shipscat I'd be a good boy and ensure I was on time as we have a date in Wolverhampton for Dexys at the Civic, and I was meeting her on the cross city train. Ferked off on 85( Which I know is a controversial action)..and as I came out the toilet, the absolute nuclear shockwave of a collective celebration hit me for Duran. Walking down, refreshing the match discussion on here gave me the PWS penalty shout. Told all and sundry at the station. Great result, disappointing performance but winning teams going somewhere do this. Thought Konsa, Luiz played well. Digne and Kamara below their usual standards. Duran is going to be a big talent and Kudos to Bailey as again, he made a difference in stretching the game

[Bad English]

Generally I don't pay too much attention to the whinging on the match thread, if people want to vent that way then fair enough but can the 'only 1 striker' thing be put to bed, Duran is a fantastic prospect who hasn't let us down and now has 3 goals from about 150minutes of game time this season.

The only other observation is that there was a bit of criticism of Doug on the match thread that made no sense to me, I thought he was the best player on the pitch by a very long way.

This is exactly the sort of analysis that is threatening to plague match threads. I put it to you. Do we want to read this sort of thing during a game?

Good thing this isn't a match thread isn't it.

You are missing the point; this is a post-match thread where you also get similar top-notch primary school ranting.