Loanwatch 2023/24

[Percy McCarthy]

The crucial thing will be whether Philogene wants to come back to Villa, where he'll be competing with Bailey and Diaby for a place.

He went to Hull to get the first team football he wasn't getting with us.  Unless he's going to be a first choice player, I doubt he'll choose to come back.

There are agreements in place between the club and the players with buy-back clauses about the terms and conditions in the event of their return I think. I recall that the announcement about the middle Ramsey brother was held up while this was negotiated.

[Smithy]

The crucial thing will be whether Philogene wants to come back to Villa, where he'll be competing with Bailey and Diaby for a place.

He went to Hull to get the first team football he wasn't getting with us.  Unless he's going to be a first choice player, I doubt he'll choose to come back.

There are agreements in place between the club and the players with buy-back clauses about the terms and conditions in the event of their return I think. I recall that the announcement about the middle Ramsey brother was held up while this was negotiated.

Indeed, a buy-back isn't a buy-back if the player can just say "no thanks".  All three parties have to agree in advance, otherwise it's pointless.  Which is one of the reasons why I take someof what the Hull City bloke says with a giant pinch of salt.

[OCD]

Tbf, the Hull chairman is only going to talk in context of getting promoted. He's not going to say 'and if we don't get promoted, this is the situation...' Can't imagine that would go down well with their supporters.

[Dante Lavelli]

I’d be happy for him to spend another year at Hull before bringing him back (assuming we have the option). Between Bailey and Diaby we already have two similar players.

I don’t think having a third will make much difference and he will improve more playing each week at Hull.

[Dogtanian]

Did anyone watch the Plymouth game last night?

I didn't see it, but checked Whoscored this morning, and Sousa got a 7 and an 88% pass success rate, the highest for Plymouth and second-highest for both teams.

[Clampy]

I watched the first half of the Plymouth game, he was ok. He was playing left midfield by the look of it and got in a couple of decent crosses.

[Londonvilla]

Lino Sousa 7 - The 19-year-old Aston Villa loanee gave Argyle good attacking impetus in his role as left wing-back. For a full debut it was one which offered lots of promise for the rest of the season. He should only get better with more game-time after only joining the Pilgrims on transfer deadline day. Sousa provides good competition with Mickel Miller for that position.

https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/sport/football/plymouth-argyle-player-ratings-2-9098738

Good start

[Dogtanian]

Sounds good!

[OCD]

Heard Chrisene did well last night. Anyone watch the Blackburn-Newcastle game?

[eamonn]

Only caught extra-time. I was looking forward to seeing him take a penalty but alas, he never got the chance.

The commentator (Drury maybe? Not Mowbray anyway, some other dunderhead) was singing his praises  towards the end. He also pronounced his surname in a way I didn't expect. I though it was "Kri-seen", but I think he went for "Kri-sen-ay". I presume he's correct. Don't want another Iroegbunam/roo-bun-em situation...

Anyway, I did see Ben make a lovely run up the centre of the pitch towards the end and was chopped-down for which Longstaff received a booking.

[Brazilian Villain]

The commentator (Drury maybe? Not Mowbray anyway, some other dunderhead) was singing his praises  towards the end. He also pronounced his surname in a way I didn't expect. I thought it was "Kri-seen", but I think he went for "Kri-sen-ay". I presume he's correct. Don't want another Iroegbunam/roo-bun-em situation...

There's no accent on the last 'e' so I'd say you're right. You don't hear people saying something is "se-ren-ay".

[OCD]

When I read it, I think of it as 'Kri-sen-ay'.

[danno]

Thought the lad looked decent, comfortable receiving the ball in tight spaces, dynamic and put in some goal saving challenges.

[Smithy]

And so begins the Philogene hype, which I suspect will continue until such time as he's back with us, or playing in the Premier League for someone else... https://www.teamtalk.com/news/tottenham-sign-hull-starlet-aston-villa-buyback-clause

[Dante Lavelli]

Is that a new quote from their chairman?

It is more detailed than I previously remember, and if true, not the most robust buy back option.