Pau Torres

[Dave]

Really shocked Mings didn't start as in last few weeks he's kept Wood and Isak quiet

He kept Elanga (sort of) quiet while Wood sat at home.

[Percy McCarthy]

I've better ways of spending my time than  being bored senseless by a Diego Carlos groupie.

I was talking about a combination of defenders that was objectively better than another combination of defenders, and that helping the goalie. I preferred that combination of defenders because they were better, not because I want to have sex with one of them.

But as you accused me of the latter, did you really think Lizz Truss’s policies would be just what the country needed (lol), or did you just want to have sex with her?

[Ads]

You're so odd.

[Tokyo Sexwhale]

Since Torres and Mings both returned at the start of March (the Club Brugge away match):

Mings PL 7 W 7 Conceded 3
Torres PL 5 W 2 L3 Conceded 10

[Percy McCarthy]

You're so odd.

I’m a Villa fan who prefers Villa to concede fewer goals.

You think that means I want to have sex with a player.

Now that IS odd.

[tomd2103]

Agree with those saying sell Torres. Think we'd make a loss on the figs but would still bring in some much needed funds. I can see him going back to Spain.

Using him as part of a deal might work if it could be done. Just think we need a real top quality centre half  in the summer and they aren't going to come cheap.

[KevinGage]

People on here saying put him in midfield, he'd get eaten alive. John Stones can do it but hes an exceptional player. Torres gets done on the turn too easily for me, he is a decent player until he comes up against a big physical striker - which is why 97% of us were aghast he was in instead of Mings. Gets picked for his distribution as much as anything but he aint no Bobby Moore.

Southgate wasn't especially quick or strong for a centre half but - to give credit to the former Boro - captain - could read the game well.   James Chester had a turn of pace but not the biggest CB and not dominant in the air. But again, he could get away with it because of his positional play and awareness.

Torres doesn't seem to have any of that, sadly. To make up for some pretty fundamental weaknesses.

He might work well in a three. Or in a side who dominate possession so much that the centre halves never really come under threat. As per peak Barca, or some of Pep's other sides. Then he'll have all the time in the world to do the things he likes. And not worry about the things he doesn't. That's prob not going to be with us though.

[Percy McCarthy]

Since Torres and Mings both returned at the start of March (the Club Brugge away match):

Mings PL 7 W 7 Conceded 3
Torres PL 5 W 2 L3 Conceded 10

With Mings starting we’ve won our last 8, are unbeaten in 11, and lost once in 18.

Calm down weirdos, it doesn’t mean I fancy him.

[VillaTim]

Really shocked Mings didn't start as in last few weeks he's kept Wood and Isak quiet

He kept Elanga (sort of) quiet while Wood sat at home.

Elanga is a winger so not for Mings to mark so to speak

[Dave]

Really shocked Mings didn't start as in last few weeks he's kept Wood and Isak quiet

He kept Elanga (sort of) quiet while Wood sat at home.

Elanga is a winger so not for Mings to mark so to speak

He played more centrally when Forest played us. Because Wood was still injured and didn't play at all.

Which was the whole point of the post.

[Sexual Ealing]

Since Torres and Mings both returned at the start of March (the Club Brugge away match):

Mings PL 7 W 7 Conceded 3
Torres PL 5 W 2 L3 Conceded 10

With Mings starting we’ve won our last 8, are unbeaten in 11, and lost once in 18.

Calm down weirdos, it doesn’t mean I fancy him.

I do.

Yours heterosexually,
Sexual Ealing GCSE

[VillaTim]

Another really weak display to add to a growing collection. The penny will surely be dropping with Emery now , or will we see more stubbornness from him . He really isn't good enough to play in our backline in the Prem or big games like today .

It smacked of a loyalty selection really. Pau basically just signing for us due to Unai being here so guess part of that was not leaving him out of big league or cup matches.

Contrary to popular belief Pau has actually played well for us on many occasions...but handling monster CFs is not his forte aswell. He was terrible v Everton at home when Calvert Lewin barged into him after five minutes and genuinely didn't want to know in any duel for the rest of the game and could've easily cost us another goal.

Really shocked Mings didn't start as in last few weeks he's kept Wood and Isak quiet so clearly Emery knows he's better than Pau at handling those types of forwards and I think everyone assumed him being on the bench v Man. City would mean he'd come back in for the SF.

It's not just about Mings handling the physical side, it's probably more important how he leads the backline, communicates and just makes us look far better as a team, things Torres doesn't do. He is also decent with his distribution . Emery has really fucked up in the ECL and FA Cup by dropping Mings .

[VillaTim]

Really shocked Mings didn't start as in last few weeks he's kept Wood and Isak quiet

He kept Elanga (sort of) quiet while Wood sat at home.

Elanga is a winger so not for Mings to mark so to speak

He played more centrally when Forest played us. Because Wood was still injured and didn't play at all.

Which was the whole point of the post.

He didn't really though, he was wide most of the time . Either way Mings and the others largely dealt with him and we won the game.

[astonvilla82]

With Mings he knows the value of getting to the FA cup final, think yesterday it would have suited him more, still didn't excuse the overall performance

[FatSam]

I preferred that combination of defenders because they were better, not because I want to have sex with one of them.

Yes, they were better, but also Diego is a real hottie isn’t he?