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Offline Sexual Ealing

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #105 on: June 01, 2023, 03:04:13 AM »
Not to mention Zidane (I always forget about him as a manager too, but those pots tell their own story).

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #106 on: June 01, 2023, 07:48:23 AM »
Zidane’s a funny one. Perfect for Real, and I suspect France, but doubt he’d cut it at other top clubs around Europe.

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #107 on: June 01, 2023, 08:23:24 AM »
I reckon Gerrard will get another job, but lower down. There will be someone for whom his name is a coup, and will be attracted to his pulling power to bring players in.

He's had two jobs. One he won the league and was successful, the other he was given less than a year and technically, if we are honest, only left us one place below where he found us.

Outsiders will look at that and think he's worth a punt and hope the Rangers spell was the true Gerrard.

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #108 on: June 01, 2023, 08:24:18 AM »
He won one trophy out of nine in scotland.

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #109 on: June 01, 2023, 08:31:58 AM »
He won one trophy out of nine in scotland.

Enough to convince us to give him the reigns. Why do you think that's not enough for another club?

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #110 on: June 01, 2023, 08:56:41 AM »
I didn't want Gerrard, was pretty critical of him while he was here and then pretty scathing when he left. Most of that was informed by the fact that I don't like him, but there was plenty of actual evidence to suggest he wasn't very good as well. Our run towards the end of last season was concerning. I might be wrong, but I think the only teams we beat for the last 6 months of his tenure were either relegated or managed by Frank Lampard... I guess that suggests that we might have survived if we'd have kept him *shudders*, but only because we may have had enough to beat the teams around us. I'm just delighted that we never had to find out.

I may have said this before, but I think his comment about "needing a little bit of magic from the players" is the perfect comment to highlight why he is a terrible manager, for a number of reasons: For a start, magic doesn't exist. When we watch a magician, what we see as an audience is a carefully planned and rehearsed routine, that takes time and effort to perfect - I reckon Gerrard thinks that David Blaine was actually levitating. He's also passing the buck - the players need to do something, "I've done all I can do with them, so it's up to them now". That seemed to be his attitude throughout - perhaps because he struggled to understand why they couldn't be like he was as a player, when he used to take the game by the scruff of the neck. Ultimately, though, it's just lazy and poor management.

He is the exact opposite of Unai in every single aspect. Work ethic, humility, attitude, personality, motivation and ability. I love Unai for all the reasons I disliked Gerrard.

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #111 on: June 01, 2023, 09:37:10 AM »
I didn't want Gerrard, was pretty critical of him while he was here and then pretty scathing when he left. Most of that was informed by the fact that I don't like him, but there was plenty of actual evidence to suggest he wasn't very good as well. Our run towards the end of last season was concerning. I might be wrong, but I think the only teams we beat for the last 6 months of his tenure were either relegated or managed by Frank Lampard... I guess that suggests that we might have survived if we'd have kept him *shudders*, but only because we may have had enough to beat the teams around us. I'm just delighted that we never had to find out.

I may have said this before, but I think his comment about "needing a little bit of magic from the players" is the perfect comment to highlight why he is a terrible manager, for a number of reasons: For a start, magic doesn't exist. When we watch a magician, what we see as an audience is a carefully planned and rehearsed routine, that takes time and effort to perfect - I reckon Gerrard thinks that David Blaine was actually levitating. He's also passing the buck - the players need to do something, "I've done all I can do with them, so it's up to them now". That seemed to be his attitude throughout - perhaps because he struggled to understand why they couldn't be like he was as a player, when he used to take the game by the scruff of the neck. Ultimately, though, it's just lazy and poor management.

He is the exact opposite of Unai in every single aspect. Work ethic, humility, attitude, personality, motivation and ability. I love Unai for all the reasons I disliked Gerrard.

Final sentence, in particular, is just unbelievably bang on

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #112 on: June 01, 2023, 03:46:24 PM »
He won one trophy out of nine in scotland.

Enough to convince us to give him the reigns. Why do you think that's not enough for another club?

Because their only challengers apart from Celtic pre Ange were a Barlinnie XI.

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #113 on: June 01, 2023, 03:51:45 PM »
He won one trophy out of nine in scotland.

Enough to convince us to give him the reigns. Why do you think that's not enough for another club?

Because their only challengers apart from Celtic pre Ange were a Barlinnie XI.

And yet his record there still convinced our owners he could do a job for us, it will convince other owners too I'm afraid.

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #114 on: June 01, 2023, 03:52:16 PM »
He won one trophy out of nine in scotland.

Enough to convince us to give him the reigns. Why do you think that's not enough for another club?

Because their only challengers apart from Celtic pre Ange were a Barlinnie XI.

The point is that it still lead us to him regardless as to how weak the competition is up in Scotland. Someone else will think the same.

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #115 on: June 01, 2023, 04:29:35 PM »
He won one trophy out of nine in scotland.

Enough to convince us to give him the reigns. Why do you think that's not enough for another club?

Because another club won't have one of his fans appointing him.
 

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #116 on: June 01, 2023, 07:09:57 PM »
He won one trophy out of nine in scotland.

Enough to convince us to give him the reigns. Why do you think that's not enough for another club?

Because another club won't have one of his fans appointing him.
 

Am I imagining this or has Purslow been a bit more low profile of late?

I was amazed he wasn't on the pitch at any point on Sunday. That's prime Purslow territory but nope, not there.

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #117 on: June 01, 2023, 08:08:35 PM »
You’re not imagining it. I just don’t know whether he’s been told to just focus more on the stadium expansion.  I get the impression the Gerrard experiment has gotten him a final written warning.

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #118 on: June 02, 2023, 11:56:46 AM »
He won one trophy out of nine in scotland.

Enough to convince us to give him the reigns. Why do you think that's not enough for another club?

Because their only challengers apart from Celtic pre Ange were a Barlinnie XI.

And yet his record there still convinced our owners he could do a job for us, it will convince other owners too I'm afraid.

I really think Gerrard will struggle for his next gig. Player management clearly not his forte and he admitted coaching and tactics weren't either. After that what's left? He might get a mid table championship gig next and that would be ideal to see if he actually really wants to be a manager. See what he can deliver with a restricted budget and loads of other constraints. Thrive there and he can put the Villa job down to experience.

I didn't want him at Villa and wanted him gone around the time of that Palace game. But don't think he ever disrespected the club in his time with us, his profile got us in players we ordinarily would struggle to attract and likes of Ramsey were developing nicely for a while. The job was far too much for him at the time. Don't think he deserved the manner of his departure that night either, players downing tools all over the pitch and sacked outside the dressing room.

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #119 on: June 02, 2023, 12:32:43 PM »
Would we have been relegated under Gerrard for the whole season? 

Yes. He was shit at his job.

Next question?

I may have said this before, but I think his comment about "needing a little bit of magic from the players" is the perfect comment to highlight why he is a terrible manager, for a number of reasons: For a start, magic doesn't exist. When we watch a magician, what we see as an audience is a carefully planned and rehearsed routine, that takes time and effort to perfect - I reckon Gerrard thinks that David Blaine was actually levitating. He's also passing the buck - the players need to do something, "I've done all I can do with them, so it's up to them now". That seemed to be his attitude throughout - perhaps because he struggled to understand why they couldn't be like he was as a player, when he used to take the game by the scruff of the neck. Ultimately, though, it's just lazy and poor management.

He is the exact opposite of Unai in every single aspect. Work ethic, humility, attitude, personality, motivation and ability. I love Unai for all the reasons I disliked Gerrard.

All of this. 👍

 


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