Chris Heck - President of Business Operations

[pauliewalnuts]

Hecks talking sound bites embarrassing about kicking doors down if think that's competitive numbers as way off it

Did you think it was vulgar and a bit Studio 54 because his door kicking reference was a bit like "kicking her (or his) back doors in" saucy?

Must we try and be disgusting with such vulgar and crude comment? It not even linked in any way.

The facts are the Adidas deal numbers need to be more than 6m comparing to the big six.
30m minimum and be competing

I'm asking you, with your elevated moral standards, whether said standards were the driving force in disliking what Heck said. Or else, why are they "embarassing"?

[Footy-Vill]

Hecks talking sound bites embarrassing about kicking doors down if think that's competitive numbers as way off it

Did you think it was vulgar and a bit Studio 54 because his door kicking reference was a bit like "kicking her (or his) back doors in" saucy?

Must we try and be disgusting with such vulgar and crude comment? It not even linked in any way.

The facts are the Adidas deal numbers need to be more than 6m comparing to the big six.
30m minimum and be competing

I'm asking you, with your elevated moral standards, whether said standards were the driving force in disliking what Heck said. Or else, why are they "embarassing"?

Because the numbers on sponsorship aren't competing with the big six, it's just sounding off.It's doubling for us, which is great, but it's hardly the next level.

It's slow progress, but hey, we're talking as if we have elite sponsorship deals, which are what the other top clubs already have.

We are getting on the right track, but he's hardly threatening on those financial terms, so it's folly with his brash American talk. Trump did it to whip up a frenzy and that's what American business do.

[pauliewalnuts]

Hecks talking sound bites embarrassing about kicking doors down if think that's competitive numbers as way off it

Did you think it was vulgar and a bit Studio 54 because his door kicking reference was a bit like "kicking her (or his) back doors in" saucy?

Must we try and be disgusting with such vulgar and crude comment? It not even linked in any way.

The facts are the Adidas deal numbers need to be more than 6m comparing to the big six.
30m minimum and be competing

I'm asking you, with your elevated moral standards, whether said standards were the driving force in disliking what Heck said. Or else, why are they "embarassing"?

Because the numbers on sponsorship aren't competing with the big 6 so it's just sounding off.
It's doubling for us which is great but it's hardly next level

It's slow progress but Heck talking as if we are elite sponsorship deals.

It's his job, he has to drive the entire commercial function of the club to be much better. If he has doubled the shirt sponsor deal inside a year of being here, extracting us from BK8, and doing the same with Castore to a prestige deal with Adidas, then that is great. Kicking in the back doors (f'naar) of the 'big six' is EXACTLY what we should be doing.

I've got no time for the bloke on a lot of his stuff, but he seems to be getting the results on the income side of things.

If I went to my employer and told him I've binned a load of shit contracts and doubled the income on the new ones I've replaced then with, I'd expect him to be giving me a fucking massive pay rise. How's that embarrassing?

[Footy-Vill]

The kicking doors down comment.
It not true and it's whopping up a frenzy when the contracts aren't competing in the bigger scheme of things so then it's not accurate for him to say we are kicking doors down

[Footy-Vill]

Villa are going to be knocking on the door soon would be the more accurate statement needed.

[Toronto Villa]

Fucking hell. You don’t half come out with some bollocks. Dissecting his words because you want to be outraged.

[Ads]

If you're knocking, you're not in control. You're asking for permission. We're kicking doors in, uninvited "knock-knock mother fucker" sort of way. Actually that would be funny, we knock, Kopites answer "who is..." BOOOM bost the half opened door right in his Norwegian/Cork mush. Have that, you soft ******.

I also took the use of plus, not as a verbalised comma, but as in its double and then some more on top.

[Toronto Villa]

I’m fucking tired of being every other clubs whipping boys. Everyone talking nice about us because we hand them 3 or 6 points every season. I want these pricks to hate us. Hate us not because we are entitled wankers like Man U/Arsenal/Man City etc fans. But because we are superb on the pitch, winning trophies but remain classy off it. And that we smashed in the door to the so called big 6 and we become a club they, the media, other fans, other clubs etc. cannot ignore anymore. So fucking kick, smash the door to pieces Heck. And when you’re done smash it to fuck again.

[Drummond]

If we spent a most of the last 14 uears in the top 6, most of which top 4, then we would have been in the "Big 6". If they'd have been mid table fodder that whole time then they wouldn't, revenue etc wouldn't make a difference. I think they obviously do get a lift up being in London and having London based journalists but ultimately it wouldn't matter if they didn't do it on the pitch. I think we're writing that off a little bit too much, however annoying it is. I think in 5 years we'll be very much a part of the conversation.

This is it.

We've been shit for a long time, yeah we got to a couple of finals but nobody expected us to win them.

The last time we threatened to have success was under MON and even then we didn't push on. We were on MOTD more, but that was it.

It takes time to be regarded as a 'big' 3,4,5,6 club, Chelsea and ManC bought their way to the top and have had sustained time winning trophies. Arsenal have been there or thereabouts for decades, see also Liverpool and ManU who have the legacy of success.

Spurs have had a number of years in the top parts of the league including Champions League (and a final no less) a big stadium and talking about, and showing ambition to continue it.

Other clubs who are trying are of course Newcastle because of their wealth and Champions League qualification, West Ham have big crowds now and have European success (if not League).

We are new to this sort of level, and need to sustain it, and actually win something, to be regarded as part of it. Newcastle aren't regarded that way, because they have tailed off thus season.

A big new stadium may help us, but also a redevelopment of part of Villa Park would help too.

Next season we hope to have Champions League, one of the very best managers, great owners, potentially a European Trophy, our 150th anniversary, adidas, and a player or two who have done well at the Euros. It's time.

[sid1964]

If these commercial deals were so easy and straight forward to do, why were they not done previously, by Purslow and the previous gang?

We are miles behind the commercial deals of Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal etc.. and in truth we will never match their deals, even if we keep getting into a European competition each season.

We do not have the above clubs world wide appeal, so the major sponsors will not want us.

[AV82EC]

Sorry but that’s needlessly negative. We’re starting to dip our toes in the world of larger sponsorships as we’ll likely qualify for the CL, do it a couple of times in a row and that changes things completely.

[Villan For Life]

If these commercial deals were so easy and straight forward to do, why were they not done previously, by Purslow and the previous gang?

We are miles behind the commercial deals of Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal etc.. and in truth we will never match their deals, even if we keep getting into a European competition each season.

We do not have the above clubs world wide appeal, so the major sponsors will not want us.

The value of these contracts is directly related to performance on the pitch. There’s no way Purslow could have attracted such deals when things on the pitch were not as positive as they currently are. Sponsors are taking a punt on us becoming an elite level club and I imagine that the deals have performance related bonuses built into them, so the better we do the more they pay.

Imagine how strong our negotiating position will be in a couple of years if we have a couple seasons Champions League qualification behind us? We’d be attracting better players and more commercial revenue. That is just the start.

[Percy McCarthy]

If you're knocking, you're not in control. You're asking for permission. We're kicking doors in, uninvited "knock-knock mother fucker" sort of way. Actually that would be funny, we knock, Kopites answer "who is..." BOOOM bost the half opened door right in his Norwegian/Cork mush. Have that, you soft ******.

I also took the use of plus, not as a verbalised comma, but as in its double and then some more on top.

Yes, the ‘plus’ thing was blatantly obvious to anyone with a shred of insight. As we know, footy is not a member of that particular club.

[algy]

If you're knocking, you're not in control. You're asking for permission. We're kicking doors in, uninvited "knock-knock mother fucker" sort of way. Actually that would be funny, we knock, Kopites answer "who is..." BOOOM bost the half opened door right in his Norwegian/Cork mush. Have that, you soft ******.

I also took the use of plus, not as a verbalised comma, but as in its double and then some more on top.

Absolutely. He said plus on the last one too, and there was more of a pause after plus ... it was "We have doubled our front-of-shirt deal plus, we have doubled our sleeve deal plus, we have doubled our kit deal plus". Which makes me think that it's some mad American wording to suggest that they're all more than doubled.

To be fair to Heck, he's done a pretty good job on that side of things. I get what footy is saying, we're still miles off the pace commercially - but the deals we've got and sustained European qualification over a longer period of time will fix that. He can only work with what's there after all

[Nev]

Sorry but that’s needlessly negative. We’re starting to dip our toes in the world of larger sponsorships as we’ll likely qualify for the CL, do it a couple of times in a row and that changes things completely.

This the key, even now it's worth thinking about repeat qualification next season. Too many teams, like Newcastle have qualified then fallen away the following season. I know it's putting the cart before the horse but in terms of profile and commercial income, consecutive and indeed regular qualification is vital.