Chris Heck - President of Business Operations

[Flin5tone]

There's obviously a select few from fan groups etc that attend these meetings , one from a particular podcast who will not be mentioned who highlights the issues but then when the meetings come along bottles asking the vital questions that the fans are talking about.

Why don’t you go then?

They are normally at times that don't suit. I imagine those that attend have a lot of free time /retired.

So you have time to post your drivel on here 24:7 while criticising others who actually make an effort to goto the meetings for not asking the specific questions you want them to, but when it comes down to it, you don’t have the time to do the same yourself?

I don't post on here 24/7 until the badge disaster I had not been on for some time. I come on to see the reactions of supporters when the club makes big decisions that changes the look of the football club.

[LeeB]

There's obviously a select few from fan groups etc that attend these meetings , one from a particular podcast who will not be mentioned who highlights the issues but then when the meetings come along bottles asking the vital questions that the fans are talking about.

Why don’t you go then?

They are normally at times that don't suit. I imagine those that attend have a lot of free time /retired.

So you have time to post your drivel on here 24:7 while criticising others who actually make an effort to goto the meetings for not asking the specific questions you want them to, but when it comes down to it, you don’t have the time to do the same yourself?

I don't post on here 24/7 until the badge disaster I had not been on for some time. I come on to see the reactions of supporters when the club makes big decisions that changes the look of the football club.

And then you take a position nobody else does and start screaming blue murder about the smallest thing, again and again and again.

Like that statement there, the 'badge disaster'. What disaster? A badge has changed and it will change again. It's a badge, so fucking what? Somebody got a water bottle and you didn't. Boo fucking hoo. What a disgrace.

All this whining and moaning, performative outrage, and what are you going to do about it?

Absolutely fuck all because you cant be bothered.

[JD]

There's obviously a select few from fan groups etc that attend these meetings , one from a particular podcast who will not be mentioned who highlights the issues but then when the meetings come along bottles asking the vital questions that the fans are talking about.

Why don’t you go then?

They are normally at times that don't suit. I imagine those that attend have a lot of free time /retired.

So you have time to post your drivel on here 24:7 while criticising others who actually make an effort to goto the meetings for not asking the specific questions you want them to, but when it comes down to it, you don’t have the time to do the same yourself?

I don't post on here 24/7 until the badge disaster I had not been on for some time. I come on to see the reactions of supporters when the club makes big decisions that changes the look of the football club.

Personally Caveman I think you come on here to post for effect. I never see you posting when the club/team do well or something good, but only when the team lose or the club do something that's not popular. I will take you more seriously if you start being more balanced in your postings, instead of someone on a morose downer. 

[Flin5tone]

I think you'll find many on here were outraged regarding the badge.

And to me it's not 'just a badge' it's what represents us , what the world will see and we needed continuety.  We now have two badges, the one that's horrendous and the worst on socials and TV being used for that purpose. As MANY others agrees with.

If the badge does not bother you that's completely your choice but to me and others , especially those of us that took time to vote in which we all believe was a vote for a new club crest have been fobbed off.

It's almost on the verge of being illegal

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There's obviously a select few from fan groups etc that attend these meetings , one from a particular podcast who will not be mentioned who highlights the issues but then when the meetings come along bottles asking the vital questions that the fans are talking about.

Why don’t you go then?

They are normally at times that don't suit. I imagine those that attend have a lot of free time /retired.

So you have time to post your drivel on here 24:7 while criticising others who actually make an effort to goto the meetings for not asking the specific questions you want them to, but when it comes down to it, you don’t have the time to do the same yourself?

I don't post on here 24/7 until the badge disaster I had not been on for some time. I come on to see the reactions of supporters when the club makes big decisions that changes the look of the football club.

And then you take a position nobody else does and start screaming blue murder about the smallest thing, again and again and again.

Like that statement there, the 'badge disaster'. What disaster? A badge has changed and it will change again. It's a badge, so fucking what? Somebody got a water bottle and you didn't. Boo fucking hoo. What a disgrace.

All this whining and moaning, performative outrage, and what are you going to do about it?

Absolutely fuck all because you cant be bothered.

Because he's a tedious fucking troll.

[Flin5tone]

There's obviously a select few from fan groups etc that attend these meetings , one from a particular podcast who will not be mentioned who highlights the issues but then when the meetings come along bottles asking the vital questions that the fans are talking about.

Why don’t you go then?

They are normally at times that don't suit. I imagine those that attend have a lot of free time /retired.

So you have time to post your drivel on here 24:7 while criticising others who actually make an effort to goto the meetings for not asking the specific questions you want them to, but when it comes down to it, you don’t have the time to do the same yourself?

I don't post on here 24/7 until the badge disaster I had not been on for some time. I come on to see the reactions of supporters when the club makes big decisions that changes the look of the football club.

Personally Caveman I think you come on here to post for effect. I never see you posting when the club/team do well or something good, but only when the team lose or the club do something that's not popular. I will take you more seriously if you start being more balanced in your postings, instead of someone on a morose downer.

Wrong
I've posted many times after a match that I've been pleased with . I'm not too fussed about the on the field stuff , more of how the clubs being run. We have an elite proven manager to take care of that , off the pitch the fans were given a voice and we have been given the two fingers

[LeeB]

There's obviously a select few from fan groups etc that attend these meetings , one from a particular podcast who will not be mentioned who highlights the issues but then when the meetings come along bottles asking the vital questions that the fans are talking about.

Why don’t you go then?

They are normally at times that don't suit. I imagine those that attend have a lot of free time /retired.

So you have time to post your drivel on here 24:7 while criticising others who actually make an effort to goto the meetings for not asking the specific questions you want them to, but when it comes down to it, you don’t have the time to do the same yourself?

I don't post on here 24/7 until the badge disaster I had not been on for some time. I come on to see the reactions of supporters when the club makes big decisions that changes the look of the football club.

And then you take a position nobody else does and start screaming blue murder about the smallest thing, again and again and again.

Like that statement there, the 'badge disaster'. What disaster? A badge has changed and it will change again. It's a badge, so fucking what? Somebody got a water bottle and you didn't. Boo fucking hoo. What a disgrace.

All this whining and moaning, performative outrage, and what are you going to do about it?

Absolutely fuck all because you cant be bothered.

Because he's a tedious fucking troll.

Yep.

[dave.woodhall]

There's obviously a select few from fan groups etc that attend these meetings , one from a particular podcast who will not be mentioned who highlights the issues but then when the meetings come along bottles asking the vital questions that the fans are talking about.

Why don’t you go then?

They are normally at times that don't suit. I imagine those that attend have a lot of free time /retired.

Wednesday evening 7.00, many of them virtual, being a particularly awkward time. You're not interested in doing anything. You haven't got a single contribution to make. You just want to moan.

[Nii Lamptey]

If Purslow was still in charge, and the club went back on the badge design and/or stadium expansion I could maybe see your point, but in this circumstance, with Chris Heck, a new 'screwed-on' head coming in, I'm fully on board with his pause and take stock approach.

If we were being honest, most of us loved the round badge when it was unveiled (as it's WAY better than the current abomination), but it's far from perfect - Lion facing the wrong way, ridiculous star embedded in the design rather than on top with room to add more in future, loads of people criticising that it looks like everyone elses badge, etc.

The buck stops with Chris Heck, and with what is at stake from a crest redesign or a stadium expansion (*and the money involved), I think he's personally well within his rights to put the brakes on.... as long as he gets it right when he does proceed!

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[algy]

If Purslow was still in charge, and the club went back on the badge design and/or stadium expansion I could maybe see your point, but in this circumstance, with Chris Heck, a new 'screwed-on' head coming in, I'm fully on board with his pause and take stock approach.

If we were being honest, most of us loved the round badge when it was unveiled (as it's WAY better than the current abomination), but it's far from perfect - Lion facing the wrong way, ridiculous star embedded in the design rather than on top with room to add more in future, loads of people criticising that it looks like everyone elses badge, etc.

The buck stops with Chris Heck, and with what is at stake from a crest redesign or a stadium expansion (*and the money involved), I think he's personally well within his rights to put the brakes on.... as long as he gets it right when he does proceed!

This pretty much nails my thoughts on the whole matter.

Yeah, the new (23/24) badge is better than the old Lerner one, but that's a pretty low bar.  It isn't like everyone thought it was perfect (e.g. lion facing the wrong way).

The Villa Live thing ... I mean if you were looking at the catering at Villa Park today, would your first thing be "We need a bar that's open 2 days a week and is staffed by the exact same people as currently serve pints in the ground"?  Cos it feels to me that a more common complaint is that folk can't get served at half time, so maybe sort that out first?

[Paul.S]

I think you'll find many on here were outraged regarding the badge.

And to me it's not 'just a badge' it's what represents us , what the world will see and we needed continuety.  We now have two badges, the one that's horrendous and the worst on socials and TV being used for that purpose. As MANY others agrees with.

If the badge does not bother you that's completely your choice but to me and others , especially those of us that took time to vote in which we all believe was a vote for a new club crest have been fobbed off.

It's almost on the verge of being illegal

What verge of illegality are we talking about here?

[FatSam]

There's obviously a select few from fan groups etc that attend these meetings , one from a particular podcast who will not be mentioned who highlights the issues but then when the meetings come along bottles asking the vital questions that the fans are talking about.

Are you expecting fan representatives to trawl through every internet forum so that they can ask ‘the vital questions that the fans are talking about’ as you see them? I understand that you have every intention of attending the meetings yourself, but are prevented from doing so because they are at unsuitable times. Perhaps you could instead engage with one of the fan representatives through formal channels, and formulate ‘the vital questions that the fans are talking about’ into a coherent list for them to raise at the next meeting.

[Ger Regan]

I think you'll find many on here were outraged regarding the badge.

And to me it's not 'just a badge' it's what represents us , what the world will see and we needed continuety.  We now have two badges, the one that's horrendous and the worst on socials and TV being used for that purpose. As MANY others agrees with.

If the badge does not bother you that's completely your choice but to me and others , especially those of us that took time to vote in which we all believe was a vote for a new club crest have been fobbed off.

It's almost on the verge of being illegal

What verge of illegality are we talking about here?

He's a tedious bore prone to hyperbole who's best ignored.

[Paul.S]

I think you'll find many on here were outraged regarding the badge.

And to me it's not 'just a badge' it's what represents us , what the world will see and we needed continuety.  We now have two badges, the one that's horrendous and the worst on socials and TV being used for that purpose. As MANY others agrees with.

If the badge does not bother you that's completely your choice but to me and others , especially those of us that took time to vote in which we all believe was a vote for a new club crest have been fobbed off.

It's almost on the verge of being illegal

What verge of illegality are we talking about here?

He's a tedious bore prone to hyperbole who's best ignored.

I think if I was ever in doubt the illegal post confirmed it.