Kits 23/24

[thick_mike]

Don’t want to piss on anyone’s bonfire, but all this talk of elite clubs wearing adidas…

[Brazilian Villain]

Don’t want to piss on anyone’s bonfire, but all this talk of elite clubs wearing adidas…

I mean, as Blose kits go....

[thick_mike]

Don’t want to piss on anyone’s bonfire, but all this talk of elite clubs wearing adidas…

I mean, as Blose kits go....

Haha!

[Toronto Villa]

It's good to have one of the top brands involved. The article says Heck has been involved and let's not knock him, otherwise it looks like trying to find fault and problems where there is none.

I wonder if BK8 will remain on the front too.

That’s all I’m saying too about Heck. He’s not got to where he is and appointed by owners we have trust in by being shit. That’s not to say he shouldn’t get criticism where it’s deserved. The badge has not been handled well and the stadium issues or changes aren’t being communicated well. But he’s here to improve our commercial position reporting in to our owners. I’m sure Nas’ involvement with Adidas paved the way for this deal but Heck would have had to resolved issues with Castore and ultimately secured this new deal for the club. It’s never as easy as just because Nas is in with Adidas it looked after itself. Under Nas we have also had Luke, Under Armour, Kappa and Castore.

[VillaTim]

Sawaris has waited for the right time to bring adidas in so the right deal can be structured without suspecting eyes of fudging the books. The time wasn't right before but we are a much bigger ticket now

[Toronto Villa]

Sawaris has waited for the right time to bring adidas in so the right deal can be structured without suspecting eyes of fudging the books. The time wasn't right before but we are a much bigger ticket now

Absolute nonsense. I’m happy with Adidas vs Castore/Macron/Under Armour etc. but let’s not pretend they only service elite clubs. And that getting them is some sort of coup. They make kits for teams at all levels.

[pauliewalnuts]

It's good to have one of the top brands involved. The article says Heck has been involved and let's not knock him, otherwise it looks like trying to find fault and problems where there is none.

I wonder if BK8 will remain on the front too.

That’s all I’m saying too about Heck. He’s not got to where he is and appointed by owners we have trust in by being shit. That’s not to say he shouldn’t get criticism where it’s deserved. The badge has not been handled well and the stadium issues or changes aren’t being communicated well. But he’s here to improve our commercial position reporting in to our owners. I’m sure Nas’ involvement with Adidas paved the way for this deal but Heck would have had to resolved issues with Castore and ultimately secured this new deal for the club. It’s never as easy as just because Nas is in with Adidas it looked after itself. Under Nas we have also had Luke, Hummel, Kappa and Castore.

"He's here to improve the commercial position" - what a massive get out phrase that is.

We don't like the Terrace View (which let's be honest, is people paying 45 quid a match to get the sort of service which should be standard,) but hey, he's here to improve our commercial performance, so that's ok.

We don't like the Lower Grounds taking away what was once free, but hey, he's here to improve the commercial performance, so that's ok.

We don't like the new badge, but hey, he's here to improve commercial performance and he thinks that's the way forward, so that's ok.

Nas rolls one across the goal line for him to poke in on the kit and all of a sudden he's the hero.

This guy is a fucking fans-relation disaster, and it's not because he doesn't know what he's doing, he's a clever guy, it's because he does not give one tenth of one shit. Still, I suppose that's excusable as well.

It's going to take way, way more than this for me to be convinced of this bloke.

[VillaTim]

Sawaris has waited for the right time to bring adidas in so the right deal can be structured without suspecting eyes of fudging the books. The time wasn't right before but we are a much bigger ticket now

Absolute nonsense. I’m happy with Adidas vs Castore/Macron/Under Armour etc. but let’s not pretend they only service elite clubs. And that getting them is some sort of coup. They make kits for teams at all levels.

So what , you've missed the essential point. It's about how much they pay nothing to do with the kit itself. Same with the sponsor, now is a perfect time to exploit the opportunity. We are in new territory.

[pauliewalnuts]

Sawaris has waited for the right time to bring adidas in so the right deal can be structured without suspecting eyes of fudging the books. The time wasn't right before but we are a much bigger ticket now

Absolute nonsense. I’m happy with Adidas vs Castore/Macron/Under Armour etc. but let’s not pretend they only service elite clubs. And that getting them is some sort of coup. They make kits for teams at all levels.

So what , you've missed the essential point. It's about how much they pay nothing to do with the kit itself. Same with the sponsor, now is a perfect time to exploit the opportunity. We are in new territory.

What on earth are you on about?

How much they will pay is intrinsically linked with how many shirts we sell.

[VillaTim]

 :-\ll

Sawaris has waited for the right time to bring adidas in so the right deal can be structured without suspecting eyes of fudging the books. The time wasn't right before but we are a much bigger ticket now

Absolute nonsense. I’m happy with Adidas vs Castore/Macron/Under Armour etc. but let’s not pretend they only service elite clubs. And that getting them is some sort of coup. They make kits for teams at all levels.

So what , you've missed the essential point. It's about how much they pay nothing to do with the kit itself. Same with the sponsor, now is a perfect time to exploit the opportunity. We are in new territory.

What on earth are you on about?

How much they will pay is intrinsically linked with how many shirts we sell.

What on earth are you on about ! That's only one element . Adidas will be paying us a sponsorship fee to wear their kit. Kit sale royalties is just one element of the deal

[pauliewalnuts]

:-\ll

Sawaris has waited for the right time to bring adidas in so the right deal can be structured without suspecting eyes of fudging the books. The time wasn't right before but we are a much bigger ticket now

Absolute nonsense. I’m happy with Adidas vs Castore/Macron/Under Armour etc. but let’s not pretend they only service elite clubs. And that getting them is some sort of coup. They make kits for teams at all levels.

So what , you've missed the essential point. It's about how much they pay nothing to do with the kit itself. Same with the sponsor, now is a perfect time to exploit the opportunity. We are in new territory.

What on earth are you on about?

How much they will pay is intrinsically linked with how many shirts we sell.

What on earth are you on about ! That's only one element . Adidas will be paying us a sponsorship fee to wear their kit. Kit sale royalties is just one element of the deal

You said it was "nothing to do with the kit itself". Then you just said it is.

[VillaTim]

It's about how much they pay , be that upfront fees or the royalty %'s . It's about the money not the kit itself . We are in a better place to negotiate a great deal with adidas helped by a mutual owner and it won't raise as many eyebrows as doing it as soon as he walked in the door when we were in the championship . Now we are in a position where a mega bucks deal won't look so fishy.

[Risso]

When Nas and Wes first took over, we were a Championship club, and 90 minutes of play off action later, everything changes. I seem to recall that Fanatics were really the suppliers behind the Luke and Kappa kits, with those two companies just doing the design. Fanatics supplied the Bucks kit so I susepct that intro came from Wes.

[Brend'Watkins]

Let it look what ever. I’m sure whichever way we do it they’ll make it work to our benefit. A £5 billion deal has a nice ring to it.

[VillaTim]

Let it look what ever. I’m sure whichever way we do it they’ll make it work to our benefit. A £5 billion deal has a nice ring to it.

But that's where the authorities step in and make sure the numbers are semi realistic . Or they are supposed to.