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Offline KevinGage

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #5400 on: July 17, 2023, 01:32:56 PM »
I might be being a bit judgmental but a place that is too fcuking hot, has lots of sand, where you struggle to get a legal drink, where you can have your hands chopped off for the slightest misdemeanour, where you can be stoned to death for loving someone of the same sex, doesn't exactly strike me as the most appealing place to work. 

Gerrard said he got a 'real family vibe' when he arrived. And that family is the most important thing. Maybe Scouseland is worse than we thought.

Offline Simon Page

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #5401 on: July 17, 2023, 01:33:20 PM »
It would be crazy it it was claimed the US is as bad as Saudi Arabia. But it wasn't, so it isn't.
No, that was not the context.
But the comparison is.

Not really, if you're talking about taking a moral stance on things that are under direct threat. It's chlamydia and syphilis. I know which one is preferable, but I'd like to avoid both.

I agree, though, that it's easy to say £Xm is enough when you are nowhere near having that amount. Most people don't turn down more money. I'll let you know my choice just as soon as someone recognises my value.

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #5402 on: July 17, 2023, 01:34:01 PM »
You can buy a beer in Florida, wear want you want, women can dress how they want, go out alone, drive and own a car, you can worship wherever you want. There are LGBT communities in every city with bars and clubs operating without restrictions etc etc
Yes Just like Saudi.

Spring Break in Riyadh would be er, interesting.
Having been unfortunate enough to be staying at the Fontenbleau over Spring Break, there were times that I was crying for the peace and quiet of Riyadh ;)

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #5403 on: July 17, 2023, 01:34:18 PM »
I like to think that if I were a top class player at the tail end of my career and with millions already in the bank that i'd either publically tell them to go fuck themselves, or take their money. And then use every penny they paid me from day one to support LGBT causes around the world.

This is the thing that really bugs me. Everyone they're signing is already set up for life, unless they've been really stupid with their money. So the lure of 25 million for a year, or whatever it is, should not be enough to make already very wealthy people throw away all moral reasoning.

That said, there's a lot of countries around the world with very questionable human rights records these days. The US, for example, is an awful place for many people at the moment, but we don't seem to judge it the same way when people do business with them. People praising Messi for going to Miami, of all places, over Saudi, is really bar on the floor stuff.

No, it's not. It's filled with a bunch of people who don't travel enough to realize how fortunate they are. Often occupied by first world problems, these people who claim its an "awful" place have never been anywhere awful. Turn off your television, this comment is ridiculous.

I imagine if you're an economically deprived teenager carrying an unwanted pregnancy in one of many states, it is pretty awful right now.

Any developed democracy is going to be awful for some sections of society, including the UK.

Just because somewhere else is more awful, it doesn't help those people.

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #5404 on: July 17, 2023, 01:36:57 PM »
Very convenient how Chelsea mainly having signed a load of players are able to find homes quickly for many of them

Well, yes. It's just that - convenience. Chelsea want to off-load a number of big-name, high-earning players at just the same time as a league wants to boost its profile with a number of big-name, high-earning players.

It's lucky, sure. But it's not a conspiracy. Any more than it would be if they decided that they wanted to take Coutinho's wage off our books.

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #5405 on: July 17, 2023, 01:38:06 PM »
Using Mahrez as an example, a 32 year old offered a contract worth £25m a year is going to be hard to turn down. £75m over a 3 year deal?

I'd like to think I'd take a stand, but in reality I doubt I would. Although I don't think they do a suncream with a high enough spf factor for me to go there with my skin colour (or lack of)

Take the money. Fear not, nobody goes outside. Air conditioned house to air conditioned car to air conditioned office to air conditioned shopping mall back to air conditioned house. Just avoid restaurants without an underground car park and you're quids in.

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #5406 on: July 17, 2023, 01:40:06 PM »
I like to think that if I were a top class player at the tail end of my career and with millions already in the bank that i'd either publically tell them to go fuck themselves, or take their money. And then use every penny they paid me from day one to support LGBT causes around the world.

This is the thing that really bugs me. Everyone they're signing is already set up for life, unless they've been really stupid with their money. So the lure of 25 million for a year, or whatever it is, should not be enough to make already very wealthy people throw away all moral reasoning.

That said, there's a lot of countries around the world with very questionable human rights records these days. The US, for example, is an awful place for many people at the moment, but we don't seem to judge it the same way when people do business with them. People praising Messi for going to Miami, of all places, over Saudi, is really bar on the floor stuff.

No, it's not. It's filled with a bunch of people who don't travel enough to realize how fortunate they are. Often occupied by first world problems, these people who claim its an "awful" place have never been anywhere awful. Turn off your television, this comment is ridiculous.

I imagine if you're an economically deprived teenager carrying an unwanted pregnancy in one of many states, it is pretty awful right now.

Any developed democracy is going to be awful for some sections of society, including the UK.

Just because somewhere else is more awful, it doesn't help those people.

and I imagine if you're a hardworking teenager that made good life choices going into uni (which is far more likely), then its pretty great right now.

You can take any marginalized group or small population with a gripe and make somewhere seem awful.

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #5407 on: July 17, 2023, 01:42:17 PM »
I like to think that if I were a top class player at the tail end of my career and with millions already in the bank that i'd either publically tell them to go fuck themselves, or take their money. And then use every penny they paid me from day one to support LGBT causes around the world.

This is the thing that really bugs me. Everyone they're signing is already set up for life, unless they've been really stupid with their money. So the lure of 25 million for a year, or whatever it is, should not be enough to make already very wealthy people throw away all moral reasoning.

That said, there's a lot of countries around the world with very questionable human rights records these days. The US, for example, is an awful place for many people at the moment, but we don't seem to judge it the same way when people do business with them. People praising Messi for going to Miami, of all places, over Saudi, is really bar on the floor stuff.

No, it's not. It's filled with a bunch of people who don't travel enough to realize how fortunate they are. Often occupied by first world problems, these people who claim its an "awful" place have never been anywhere awful. Turn off your television, this comment is ridiculous.

I imagine if you're an economically deprived teenager carrying an unwanted pregnancy in one of many states, it is pretty awful right now.

Any developed democracy is going to be awful for some sections of society, including the UK.

Just because somewhere else is more awful, it doesn't help those people.
Fair enough and there are many concerns with recent developments in the US, not least the reversal of Roe v Wade.

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #5408 on: July 17, 2023, 01:43:45 PM »
I imagine if you're an economically deprived teenager carrying an unwanted pregnancy in one of many states, it is pretty awful right now.

Any developed democracy is going to be awful for some sections of society, including the UK.

Just because somewhere else is more awful, it doesn't help those people.

No it doesn't but as you allude to, some people have a shit life wherever they live, even in the most liberal countries. Saudi Arabia though, is one of the most repressive, backward countries on the planet, and is in the top 10 least liberal, most oppressive countries in whatever way people analyse such things.

Offline AV84

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #5409 on: July 17, 2023, 01:43:53 PM »
You can buy a beer in Florida, wear want you want, women can dress how they want, go out alone, drive and own a car, you can worship wherever you want. There are LGBT communities in every city with bars and clubs operating without restrictions etc etc
Yes Just like Saudi.

I'm talking about human rights violations and you're talking about buying beer, so probably not on the same wavelength on this one.

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #5410 on: July 17, 2023, 01:45:46 PM »
You can buy a beer in Florida, wear want you want, women can dress how they want, go out alone, drive and own a car, you can worship wherever you want. There are LGBT communities in every city with bars and clubs operating without restrictions etc etc
Yes Just like Saudi.

I'm talking about human rights violations and you're talking about buying beer, so probably not on the same wavelength on this one.
I think buying a beer is a human right.

Offline pablo_picasso

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #5411 on: July 17, 2023, 01:46:31 PM »
I might be being a bit judgmental but a place that is too fcuking hot, has lots of sand, where you struggle to get a legal drink, where you can have your hands chopped off for the slightest misdemeanour, where you can be stoned to death for loving someone of the same sex, doesn't exactly strike me as the most appealing place to work. 

Gerrard said he got a 'real family vibe' when he arrived. And that family is the most important thing. Maybe Scouseland is worse than we thought.

Gotta love those PR written responses. 🤨

Gerrard is too much if a coward to say anything else other than what he is told to say via the PR spin.

Reminds me of every press conference over here where they use a hell of a lot of words to say the grand total of fuck all...

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #5412 on: July 17, 2023, 01:48:59 PM »
feel this needs elaborating on... :P

Nothing exciting, just that homosexuality is illegal in Saudi Arabia and punishable by prison, lashes, and potentially death if they so decide.

And I was thinking you were a Sorcerer Dogtanian!

I'm still pretty magic, yeah!  8)

Offline AV84

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #5413 on: July 17, 2023, 01:49:20 PM »
and I imagine if you're a hardworking teenager that made good life choices going into uni (which is far more likely), then its pretty great right now.

Saying the quiet bit out load there

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #5414 on: July 17, 2023, 01:50:20 PM »
and I imagine if you're a hardworking teenager that made good life choices going into uni (which is far more likely), then its pretty great right now.

Saying the quiet bit out load there

You're desperate.

 


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