UEFA Europa Conference League - Alkmaar, Legia and Zrinjski

[algy]

And DeKuip is right, I completely forgot that it was Krakow when I went to both Auschwitz and the salt mines. Completely got mixed up, Warsaw still great though, so is Krakow.

Haven't been to Krakow but my Mom and sister and sister went and they were very impressed with the salt mines. Thought it was well worth a visit.

They really are impressive. Been twice - the chapel thing doesn't lose any of it's impact the second time round.  Also far away, but can highly recommend Gdansk/Sopot as a holiday destination in Poland.  The northern - I assume - version of polish dumplings (big baked ones) are lovely.  Polish dumpings are generally bloody great, though.

[edgysatsuma89]

And DeKuip is right, I completely forgot that it was Krakow when I went to both Auschwitz and the salt mines. Completely got mixed up, Warsaw still great though, so is Krakow.

Haven't been to Krakow but my Mom and sister and sister went and they were very impressed with the salt mines. Thought it was well worth a visit.

They're right, the chapels carved from the salt are beautiful.

[edgysatsuma89]

I loved Warsaw. Went to Auschwitz (an experience which is simply indescribable), went to the salt mines (beautiful carvings) and then got driven deep into the woods to fire guns (AK, shotgun, pistol) where I absolutely wasn't shitting myself. Some Polish looking TA in all camo were doing firing drills and watching us shoot which wasn't intimidating at all. I will say though that I found the AK to be far easier to shoot than I imagined, to the point where I thought it was scarily easy. Very attractive women around and relatively cheap, also. Great place to go.

(I'm the fat skinhead.)

Go, think, absorb. Experience it as a human being, not a tourist.

Have you ever seen the comedy series Ladhood? You look and have the vibe of the really intelligent skinhead bully in it. I'd recommend it if you haven't, very age appropriate for us and I just really like Liam Williams.

[Rory]

I'd recommend anybody who chooses to go to Auschwitz to donate generously, but forgo the guided tours.

I went as part of a school tour, found it overly commercialised and was misquoted in the Birmingham Mail for good measure. They even cut out my best comment: "the only thing missing is a fast food van called 'Auschwitz Burger-Now".

I disagree with that. I’d say the guided tour was essential, the one we had was excellent. She was clearly a jew herself and knew her stuff. My guess is that school parties are treated differently than other tour groups. There was nothing tacky or commercial about the tour I attended. I found Birkenau more moving. Less visitors than Auschwitz but the footprint of the site gives you the immenseness of the place. The train track which you can walk along and you’re asked to stop where the passengers got off and were told left or right is a shuddering moment. I didn’t find it upsetting as I knew what to expect but actually being there resonates. I’m glad I went and recommend others to go if you are in the vicinity.

Fair enough, maybe as a school tour we were spoken down to a little, as you suggest. Our guide was excellent as well, I just didn't find there was any time for contemplation.

[Rory]

I loved Warsaw. Went to Auschwitz (an experience which is simply indescribable), went to the salt mines (beautiful carvings) and then got driven deep into the woods to fire guns (AK, shotgun, pistol) where I absolutely wasn't shitting myself. Some Polish looking TA in all camo were doing firing drills and watching us shoot which wasn't intimidating at all. I will say though that I found the AK to be far easier to shoot than I imagined, to the point where I thought it was scarily easy. Very attractive women around and relatively cheap, also. Great place to go.

(I'm the fat skinhead.)

Go, think, absorb. Experience it as a human being, not a tourist.

Have you ever seen the comedy series Ladhood? You look and have the vibe of the really intelligent skinhead bully in it. I'd recommend it if you haven't, very age appropriate for us and I just really like Liam Williams.

I haven't but I'll give it a go. I like the 'really intelligent' bit 😉

[edgysatsuma89]

I loved Warsaw. Went to Auschwitz (an experience which is simply indescribable), went to the salt mines (beautiful carvings) and then got driven deep into the woods to fire guns (AK, shotgun, pistol) where I absolutely wasn't shitting myself. Some Polish looking TA in all camo were doing firing drills and watching us shoot which wasn't intimidating at all. I will say though that I found the AK to be far easier to shoot than I imagined, to the point where I thought it was scarily easy. Very attractive women around and relatively cheap, also. Great place to go.

(I'm the fat skinhead.)

Go, think, absorb. Experience it as a human being, not a tourist.

Have you ever seen the comedy series Ladhood? You look and have the vibe of the really intelligent skinhead bully in it. I'd recommend it if you haven't, very age appropriate for us and I just really like Liam Williams.

I haven't but I'll give it a go. I like the 'really intelligent' bit 😉

Ha, yeah! He's roughly our age and it's about his adolescence so quite a bit should resonate. On iPlayer.

I get your point about Auschwitz as well as there is certainly a churning through of tourists. I personally didn't feel rushed though but I was in my 20's.

[olaftab]

I'd recommend anybody who chooses to go to Auschwitz to donate generously, but forgo the guided tours.





(I'm the fat skinhead.)

I don't see a fat person in this photo. I do see a decent human being and a malnourished  child alongside him.

[Ads]

You'll need your passport number and your fan ID to buy one. They're selling the lower tier first by the looks of things. £18.61 so guess it was €20 not £20.

Very excited!

Edit: you can choose the upper tier, just went back on. 1100 left so most of the first tranche that could purchase appear to have dived on early doors.

Edit 2: their main end is under a 2 year suspended sentence of being shut, plus a €40,000 fine.

[Rory]

I'd recommend anybody who chooses to go to Auschwitz to donate generously, but forgo the guided tours.





(I'm the fat skinhead.)

I don't see a fat person in this photo. I do see a decent human being and a malnourished  child alongside him.

Haha!

He's a nose (a decent one), so that might explain the malnourished bit.

[pauliewalnuts]

You'll need your passport number and your fan ID to buy one. They're selling the lower tier first by the looks of things. £18.61 so guess it was €20 not £20.

Very excited!

Edit: you can choose the upper tier, just went back on. 1100 left so most of the first tranche that could purchase appear to have dived on early doors.

Edit 2: their main end is under a 2 year suspended sentence of being shut, plus a €40,000 fine.

Direct link buypassing the disabled BUY button for those who don't qualify:

https://tickets.avfc.co.uk/en-GB/events/legia%20warszawa%20v%20aston%20villa/2023-9-21_17.45/stadium%20of%20liga%20warsaw

You won't be able to order btw, just see how many left.

[pauliewalnuts]

^^^ 962 at the moment.

[AV82EC]

Looks like it’s going to be gone by the 2pm tranche tmw

[Holte L2]

You'll need your passport number and your fan ID to buy one. They're selling the lower tier first by the looks of things. £18.61 so guess it was €20 not £20.

Very excited!

Edit: you can choose the upper tier, just went back on. 1100 left so most of the first tranche that could purchase appear to have dived on early doors.

Edit 2: their main end is under a 2 year suspended sentence of being shut, plus a €40,000 fine.

All done. by 5.10pm here.  Very painless process. Very excited!!

[Lsvilla]

^^^ 962 at the moment.

994 I make it. Less optimistic than I was though by far.

[pauliewalnuts]

^^^ 962 at the moment.

994 I make it. Less optimistic than I was though by far.

Just saw, i still had the browser tab open from this afternoon when it said: Upper 359, lower 603

Currently it says Upper 382, lower 606.

So I'd take using those figures to guess what level they get down to with a pinch of salt.