UEFA Europa Conference League - Alkmaar, Legia and Zrinjski

[Lastfootstamper]

Algy, you need to reassess your definition of "in short". That's longer than the article!

[Duncan Shaw]

https://www.premierleague.com/european-qualification-explained

Bottom para of this explains extra EL place in scenario I described above

In short for this.  The league gets 5 European places (4 Champions League, 1 Europa League), the FA Cup winner gets one (Europa League), and the League Cup winner gets one (Europa Conference).  These can all 'trickle down', so for example Manchester United won the League Cup - if they qualify for a place in Europe via the league, their Conference place is given to the team that finishes 6th.  The FA Cup's the same - if the winner finishes in the top 5, then the extra place goes to 6th, and the Europa Conference place is given to the side that finishes 7th.

You can also win places in Europe by winning the Champions League, Europa League (both a Champions League place), and the Europa Conference (a Europa Cup place).  There's a maximum of 5 Champions League places, though - if an English side were to win the Europa League *and* another win the Champions League, then we'd get 5 places - 4th place would end up in the Europa League.  The crucial thing with these, though, is they don't trickle down.  If you win the Europa League and finish 4th, then that extra Champions League place just disappears.

This is how you theoretically get down to 9th place qualifying.  The Europa League or Champions League winner has to finish in a position where they'd have won a 'trickle down' spot that's in a lower level competition than the one they've qualified for.  So, if the Europa League or Champions League winner finishes 5th, 6th, or 7th - 8th place ends up qualifying for the Europa Conference (assuming that the FA Cup & League Cup have been won by teams 7th or higher).

You can get to 9th place as long as the team that wins the Europa Conference finishes in the only place that can trickle down for them - they qualify for the Europa Conference.  So they have to finish exactly 8th, although they can optionally also win the League Cup as that won't have any effect.

Thanks, and my head hurts!  So it looks like we want Man U to win the FA Cup and finish top 4? Eugh.

[OCD]

Watch us finish 4th the same year English teams win BOTH Champions League and Europa League.

[Meanwood Villa]

Watch us finish 4th the same year English teams win BOTH Champions League and Europa League.

It would only be an issue if both finish outside top four. So that would be Chelsea winning the CL.

[Monty]

Watch us finish 4th the same year English teams win BOTH Champions League and Europa League.

It would only be an issue if both finish outside top four. So that would be Chelsea winning the CL.

Well then, 'mon the Falangist Bastardos.

[Meanwood Villa]

Watch us finish 4th the same year English teams win BOTH Champions League and Europa League.

It would only be an issue if both finish outside top four. So that would be Chelsea winning the CL.

Well then, 'mon the Falangist Bastardos.

This stage of the CL is always about wanting the horrible foreign arseholes to beat the horrible English arseholes.

[olaftab]

Thanks, and my head hurts!  So it looks like we want Man U to win the FA Cup and finish top 4? Eugh.

Also Man city can win the FA cup but Brighton must not if they finish below us.

[olaftab]

Never been on an away trip to Europe with Villa.

Been on a few, including Iceland to a village team just outside Reykjavik. Best was Prague and worst was Moscow. 

[ChicagoLion]

Never been on an away trip to Europe with Villa.

Been on a few, including Iceland to a village team just outside Reykjavik. Best was Prague and worst was Moscow.

what happened or was it because Moscow is a drum full of miserable unfriendly people?

[OCD]

Thanks, and my head hurts!  So it looks like we want Man U to win the FA Cup and finish top 4? Eugh.

Also Man city can win the FA cup but Brighton must not if they finish below us.

If Brighton finish below us, we will have likely qualified anyway.

[olaftab]

what happened or was it because Moscow is a drum full of miserable unfriendly people?

Yes all of what you said plus blatant racism, being denied a seat in 3 different restaurants for no obvious reason at all other than (and I was told this by a couple of brit RT journalists later that night) that their regulars would not accept a darkie dining there. 

[Smithy]

Watch us finish 4th the same year English teams win BOTH Champions League and Europa League.

It would only be an issue if both finish outside top four. So that would be Chelsea winning the CL.

That happened to Spurs in 2012. They finished 4th, but got demoted to the Europa League because Chelsea won the Champions League while finishing 6th in the league.

[Risso]

what happened or was it because Moscow is a drum full of miserable unfriendly people?

Yes all of what you said plus blatant racism, being denied a seat in 3 different restaurants for no obvious reason at all other than (and I was told this by a couple of brit RT journalists later that night) that their regulars would not accept a darkie dining there. 

Fucking hell mate, that's horrendous.

[ChicagoLion]

what happened or was it because Moscow is a drum full of miserable unfriendly people?

Yes all of what you said plus blatant racism, being denied a seat in 3 different restaurants for no obvious reason at all other than (and I was told this by a couple of brit RT journalists later that night) that their regulars would not accept a darkie dining there.

Jesus fucking wept.
Sorry mate but it doesn’t surprise me.

[eamonn]

What year was that?