UEFA Europa Conference League - Alkmaar, Legia and Zrinjski

[VillaTim]

The criteria are consecutive. The 1387 includes the 576 in the top bracket so there will be 811 people maximum going for 409 tickets. Considering the events there last night and with West Ham, I imagine many won't be too keen on it and that anyone in the second bracket will be fine as long as they are quick.

As we sold all 1700 for Warsaw to STHs the numbers don’t make sense, unless 300 didn’t turn up.

Correct. They didn’t turn up. Approximately 200+ tickets were bought but the travel forms were never returned, so those fans had no intention of going. Just another notch on their history. There were plenty of empty seats in our end. Six in our row alone.

Absolute tossers they should be banned

[AV82EC]

They didn’t get it as a notch in their history though did they.

[VillaTim]

They didn’t get it as a notch in their history though did they.

No but you missed the bigger point , they denied others going by acting like selfish twats . I did say this would happen

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200 hadn't completed forma the day before the game. We have no idea how many were there and the away end held more than 1700, with people milling about where they wanted.

There was a lad in the bar we'd been drinking in and went back to that had a ticket but didn't go, as he was steaming.

[Brazilian Villain]

I know there's occasionally a spot of bother at other matches bit does this kind of thing seem to happen more in the Conference League? Or is it just that I'm paying more attention to it now?

Think there was a spot of bother when Frankfurt went to Napoli in the Champions League.

[pauliewalnuts]

I know there's occasionally a spot of bother at other matches bit does this kind of thing seem to happen more in the Conference League? Or is it just that I'm paying more attention to it now?

Think there was a spot of bother when Frankfurt went to Napoli in the Champions League.

Yeah, quite a lot, remember reading about that.

[Scott Nielsen]

Dutch fans have always been amongst the worst, haven't they?

Yes. The Ajax F-Side were notorious all through the 80s and 90s as were many other firms in Holland. The Feyenoord lot in particular. Organized and armed hooliganism without apology. I'm not sure it has gotten much better since.

[Scott Nielsen]

They were more subdued 2nd half with bouncing up and down. I'm never particularly impressed by some dope with a megaphone organising what you should be singing next. All very contrived.

It’s just a different fan culture but as others have said just doing organised singing and dancing routines is a bit K pop for my liking. I like the slightly more ebb and flow of the English way as it tends to reflect what’s happening on the pitch a bit a more.

Agreed. I'll take some criticism of the atmosphere being a bit flat over some nobhead telling me what I should be doing every minute of the game. God forbid drums are involved too.

You lot are a bunch of grumpy old men

England/Britain is a bit of a hold-out compared to most other places. It's probably a good thing as I can really only think of England and Brazil (Gremio the odd, recent exception I suppose) that are hanging on to their own stadium culture and there is much to be said for that. Of course, some would argue the plush all-seater stadiums and expensive match tickets in England are detrimental to a vigorous supporter culture and question if there's much left of it. It's different experience to be sure.

Anyway, I like drums and I ain't shy to admit it. Argentina came up with it with the bombo being the OG drum. It seems there is a bit of a merge of Barra Brava and Ultras culture that has come to dominate on the continent nowadays (though the drums are subservient to the capos here). When an awful lot of people are singing for a very long time, you need drums or it just won't work. It's hard labour too, funding, prepping and organizing the tifo (and sending study groups on expensive trips to Argentina!). In the stands it's up to the capos to determine which songs to go with when in the game - and you need to know how to read a room or you're stood down - and the drums are necessary to signal the change. I understand why someone might feel it is contrived but since that carries an artificial connotation I disagree. It's just very organized in a way that supporters prefer.

I expect you fancy whatever approach you are used to and I very much prefer constant, intimidating noise. Donating to the tifo-group is my longest standing charitable expense.

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Drums at football should equal immediate and instant relegation.

I didnt find anything particularly intimidating about Warsaw. It's just noise and eventually you stop hearing it. There was a real absence anger when we scored or limbage from their main end when they scored as well. As LeeB half joked, its all a bit Fash and there's actually something serious to be said about that.

It's up to me what songs I sing, not some badly dressed whopper in a hoodie with a megaphone and a bumbag.

[AV82EC]

Drums at football should equal immediate and instant relegation.

I didnt find anything particularly intimidating about Warsaw. It's just noise and eventually you stop hearing it. There was a real absence anger when we scored or limbage from their main end when they scored as well. As LeeB half joked, its all a bit Fash and there's actually something serious to be said about that.

It's up to me what songs I sing, not some badly dressed whopper in a hoodie with a megaphone and a bumbag.

Yep that lack of goal celebration and just carry on with the song is fucking weird.

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Drums at football should equal immediate and instant relegation.

I didnt find anything particularly intimidating about Warsaw. It's just noise and eventually you stop hearing it. There was a real absence anger when we scored or limbage from their main end when they scored as well. As LeeB half joked, its all a bit Fash and there's actually something serious to be said about that.

It's up to me what songs I sing, not some badly dressed whopper in a hoodie with a megaphone and a bumbag.

Yep that lack of goal celebration and just carry on with the song is fucking weird.

Emotionless subservience to minority authority. Not today Oswald. Imagine some twerp in a moody Stone Island trying to stop us all for fuck sake Villa-ing when the opposition scored or giving the opposition player the Nescafe shuffle, because he wants us to boing boing about.

[Risso]

Everything that's good and enjoyable in life is because of scarcity and the fact it's not present all the time. The weekend break from work, the chorus in a song, the first cup of coffee in the morning or a cold drink on a hot day. The moment they become ubiquitous is the moment they stop being as satisfying.

I think the same rule applies to singing at football. If it's just a 90 minute non-stop effort regardless of what's going on in the match, there's then no room for those moments of unrestrained joy you get when your team scores a goal or the final whistle goes after a victory. I remember watching one of the African teams in the World Cup, and to be honest the singers just looked bored and like they'd been paid to be there.

[Scott Nielsen]

Drums at football should equal immediate and instant relegation.

I didnt find anything particularly intimidating about Warsaw. It's just noise and eventually you stop hearing it. There was a real absence anger when we scored or limbage from their main end when they scored as well. As LeeB half joked, its all a bit Fash and there's actually something serious to be said about that.

It's up to me what songs I sing, not some badly dressed whopper in a hoodie with a megaphone and a bumbag.

Yep that lack of goal celebration and just carry on with the song is fucking weird.

I'd agree with that but not experienced it.

[Richard E]

Everything that's good and enjoyable in life is because of scarcity.

There speaks a married man…

[Sexual Ealing]

Everything that's good and enjoyable in life is because of scarcity.

There speaks a married man…

There speaks a married man with a gazillion kids.