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Author Topic: UEFA Europa Conference League - Alkmaar, Legia and Zrinjski  (Read 512332 times)

Offline Risso

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Re: UEFA Europa Conference League - Alkmaar, Legia and Zrinjski
« Reply #4515 on: October 06, 2023, 02:54:26 PM »
I know there's occasionally a spot of bother at other matches bit does this kind of thing seem to happen more in the Conference League? Or is it just that I'm paying more attention to it now?

I wondered that. I expect it partly because there's a higher proportion of teams from smaller Eastern Europeans backwaters, with a lot more racists as a result.

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Re: UEFA Europa Conference League - Alkmaar, Legia and Zrinjski
« Reply #4516 on: October 06, 2023, 03:10:07 PM »
I know there's occasionally a spot of bother at other matches bit does this kind of thing seem to happen more in the Conference League? Or is it just that I'm paying more attention to it now?

I wondered that. I expect it partly because there's a higher proportion of teams from smaller Eastern Europeans backwaters, with a lot more racists as a result.

Ha ha, that just made me laugh.

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Re: UEFA Europa Conference League - Alkmaar, Legia and Zrinjski
« Reply #4517 on: October 06, 2023, 03:22:59 PM »
I know there's occasionally a spot of bother at other matches bit does this kind of thing seem to happen more in the Conference League? Or is it just that I'm paying more attention to it now?

I wondered that. I expect it partly because there's a higher proportion of teams from smaller Eastern Europeans backwaters, with a lot more racists as a result.

That explains some of it, but Alkmaar are Dutch, and seem particularly bad for it. I'd been thinking it's more about the level of club that's involved. Like the massive clubs from any country have been in European competition for years, mostly, and would have maybe dealt with this stuff before and are now held to a higher standard. English clubs have dealt with it because of the reputation of English fans in general, which seems to have mostly died away.

But there does seem to be a bit more of it around the conference whatever the cause.

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Re: UEFA Europa Conference League - Alkmaar, Legia and Zrinjski
« Reply #4518 on: October 06, 2023, 03:28:53 PM »
Think the away followings of the next two group games could be a bit different to last night.

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Re: UEFA Europa Conference League - Alkmaar, Legia and Zrinjski
« Reply #4519 on: October 06, 2023, 03:32:21 PM »
Think the away followings of the next two group games could be a bit different to last night.
And the Zulu's will meet them in City centre to hone their hooliganistic skills and tell them how to storm the Holte.

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Re: UEFA Europa Conference League - Alkmaar, Legia and Zrinjski
« Reply #4520 on: October 06, 2023, 03:33:04 PM »
Think the away followings of the next two group games could be a bit different to last night.

Should be a decent atmosphere if anything, thought it was flat as anything last night, especially in the first half.

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Re: UEFA Europa Conference League - Alkmaar, Legia and Zrinjski
« Reply #4521 on: October 06, 2023, 03:33:32 PM »
I know there's occasionally a spot of bother at other matches bit does this kind of thing seem to happen more in the Conference League? Or is it just that I'm paying more attention to it now?

I wondered that. I expect it partly because there's a higher proportion of teams from smaller Eastern Europeans backwaters, with a lot more racists as a result.

That explains some of it, but Alkmaar are Dutch, and seem particularly bad for it. I'd been thinking it's more about the level of club that's involved. Like the massive clubs from any country have been in European competition for years, mostly, and would have maybe dealt with this stuff before and are now held to a higher standard. English clubs have dealt with it because of the reputation of English fans in general, which seems to have mostly died away.

But there does seem to be a bit more of it around the conference whatever the cause.

Dutch fans have always been amongst the worst, haven't they?

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Re: UEFA Europa Conference League - Alkmaar, Legia and Zrinjski
« Reply #4522 on: October 06, 2023, 03:37:02 PM »
I know there's occasionally a spot of bother at other matches bit does this kind of thing seem to happen more in the Conference League? Or is it just that I'm paying more attention to it now?

I wondered that. I expect it partly because there's a higher proportion of teams from smaller Eastern Europeans backwaters, with a lot more racists as a result.

That explains some of it, but Alkmaar are Dutch, and seem particularly bad for it. I'd been thinking it's more about the level of club that's involved. Like the massive clubs from any country have been in European competition for years, mostly, and would have maybe dealt with this stuff before and are now held to a higher standard. English clubs have dealt with it because of the reputation of English fans in general, which seems to have mostly died away.

But there does seem to be a bit more of it around the conference whatever the cause.

Dutch fans have always been amongst the worst, haven't they?

Maybe, I don't know. I would have thought Italians, Polish, Eastern European etc. but as I said, I haven't really been paying much attention to anything European until recently.

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Re: UEFA Europa Conference League - Alkmaar, Legia and Zrinjski
« Reply #4523 on: October 06, 2023, 03:39:45 PM »
Think the away followings of the next two group games could be a bit different to last night.

Should be a decent atmosphere if anything, thought it was flat as anything last night, especially in the first half.

I chuckled when I (briefly) had a stream of the match. Our half-arsed "we even conquered Europe..." sounded hilariously weedy against their metronomic military-industrial harumphing.

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Re: UEFA Europa Conference League - Alkmaar, Legia and Zrinjski
« Reply #4524 on: October 06, 2023, 03:42:20 PM »
I dont think anybody is going to be put off by any local Schtone Island lads you know, they how you shay, shithouse, yesh? Warsaw were the rough lot and it was uneventful. Be loads go ticketless for Amsterdam (like my good lady will be).

As I just mentioned, issues with organised ultra groups here remain a major problem. Even my shi**y local Dutch 2nd Div team had to get extra police in, create a stadium ring of steel and stop online ticket sales due to a planned and organised attack between two clubs (one of whom Telstar was playing that night). My advice remains don't go to Alkmaar without a ticket, even for a drink and be vigilant if drinking in Amsterdam.

I hope it’s not that bad. I’m taking the whole family over for a few days in Amsterdam.

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Re: UEFA Europa Conference League - Alkmaar, Legia and Zrinjski
« Reply #4525 on: October 06, 2023, 03:42:26 PM »
There's clashes at a lot of European games, regardless of which competition. It's just that most don't get reported over here unless it involves an English club or is particularly nasty. Even then the minor clashes with Marseille and Brighton have received little to no publicity.

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Re: UEFA Europa Conference League - Alkmaar, Legia and Zrinjski
« Reply #4526 on: October 06, 2023, 03:56:19 PM »
Think the away followings of the next two group games could be a bit different to last night.

Should be a decent atmosphere if anything, thought it was flat as anything last night, especially in the first half.

I chuckled when I (briefly) had a stream of the match. Our half-arsed "we even conquered Europe..." sounded hilariously weedy against their metronomic military-industrial harumphing.

I think the Ultras thing is initially impressive but there are times when the constant singing is monotonous and bears no relation to what's happening on the pitch.

I'm also not fit enough to keep up the jumping and singing for 90 minutes so on this, I like what we are

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Re: UEFA Europa Conference League - Alkmaar, Legia and Zrinjski
« Reply #4527 on: October 06, 2023, 04:04:53 PM »
I know everyone hates them but the atmosphere at Newcastle the other night was amazing, and it felt pretty natural too. No idea how you go about replicating something like that but still have it be natural.

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Re: UEFA Europa Conference League - Alkmaar, Legia and Zrinjski
« Reply #4528 on: October 06, 2023, 04:18:21 PM »
Think the away followings of the next two group games could be a bit different to last night.

Should be a decent atmosphere if anything, thought it was flat as anything last night, especially in the first half.

I chuckled when I (briefly) had a stream of the match. Our half-arsed "we even conquered Europe..." sounded hilariously weedy against their metronomic military-industrial harumphing.

I think the Ultras thing is initially impressive but there are times when the constant singing is monotonous and bears no relation to what's happening on the pitch.

I'm also not fit enough to keep up the jumping and singing for 90 minutes so on this, I like what we are

I don't disagree. I just thought it was funny.

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Re: UEFA Europa Conference League - Alkmaar, Legia and Zrinjski
« Reply #4529 on: October 06, 2023, 04:22:16 PM »
They were more subdued 2nd half with bouncing up and down. I'm never particularly impressed by some dope with a megaphone organising what you should be singing next. All very contrived.

 


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