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Author Topic: January Transfer Window - The Verdict.  (Read 48596 times)

Offline Percy McCarthy

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Re: January Transfer Window - The Verdict.
« Reply #255 on: February 01, 2023, 11:59:48 PM »
Big splurge in the summer then no excuses.

One would hope so, although according to the spin aimed at Villa reporters, the money was there for UEís top targets this month, and it was his decision to wait for them to be more easily available.

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Re: January Transfer Window - The Verdict.
« Reply #256 on: February 02, 2023, 12:13:55 AM »
can I answer after the next window?

It was either a disaster or a pruning exercise so we grow back better in the summer.

I can understand the logic of the pruning argument, especially if we already have an idea of who we are looking at in the Summer and there will be a sizeable influx of players.  The problem could be that a poor finish to the season and a bottom half finish would mean the rebuilding task would be more difficult.

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Re: January Transfer Window - The Verdict.
« Reply #257 on: February 02, 2023, 02:39:51 AM »
Big splurge in the summer then no excuses.

One would hope so, although according to the spin aimed at Villa reporters, the money was there for UEís top targets this month, and it was his decision to wait for them to be more easily available.

Do we believe that? It would make Emery unique amongst managers, I expect.

More likely the club is pushing a 'narrative' that suits the club. Which is perfectly normal of course.

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Re: January Transfer Window - The Verdict.
« Reply #258 on: February 02, 2023, 02:54:48 AM »
The owner didnít go out of his way to fire Gerrard, appoint a high profile manager (it could have been Pochettino by all accounts), and then in the first transfer window a couple of months in stiff him on what he wanted to do. He would have negotiated everything including transfer autonomy and spending ability heading into the job. Itís been said he likes a small squad so he got rid of mostly players who donít play and clearly wanted a couple that collectively they didnít pull the trigger on. We would all have liked a big name signing but letís not go down the conspiracy theory path as to why it never happened in this window.

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Re: January Transfer Window - The Verdict.
« Reply #259 on: February 02, 2023, 03:06:34 AM »
Fair enough. The money was there but Emery declined for the reasons you suggest. It's unusual and, as they say in politics, a courageous approach.

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Re: January Transfer Window - The Verdict.
« Reply #260 on: February 02, 2023, 04:09:04 AM »
Big splurge in the summer then no excuses.

One would hope so, although according to the spin aimed at Villa reporters, the money was there for UEís top targets this month, and it was his decision to wait for them to be more easily available.

Do we believe that? It would make Emery unique amongst managers, I expect.

More likely the club is pushing a 'narrative' that suits the club. Which is perfectly normal of course.

What I mean is the fees would have been paid if the players would have agreed to come. For instance, the release clause was met for Williams but he didnít want to leave. I think that Emery then decided not to move on to other targets, but to go back in the summer. He did speak about wanting a Ďvery specificí type of winger. Also, we were heavily linked with Delofeu, who played 13 minutes in his comeback from injury before getting injured again. So perhaps those were his first two choices and he really didnít want to go down as far as third choice, assuming there were as many as three on a Ďvery specificí list.
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Re: January Transfer Window - The Verdict.
« Reply #261 on: February 02, 2023, 05:03:56 AM »
Gotcha, Percy. That makes sense.

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Re: January Transfer Window - The Verdict.
« Reply #262 on: February 02, 2023, 07:03:01 AM »
For instance, the release clause was met for Williams but he didnít want to leave.

Why has this become an accepted truth? Unless I missed something from someone who might know, there was a Mail Online report saying we "were prepared" to sign him, which was then repeated on the usual clickbaity sites.

I'm not saying it's not true, but it seems to have been given much less scrutiny than reports like that are normally given.

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Re: January Transfer Window - The Verdict.
« Reply #263 on: February 02, 2023, 07:14:38 AM »
For instance, the release clause was met for Williams but he didnít want to leave.

Why has this become an accepted truth? Unless I missed something from someone who might know, there was a Mail Online report saying we "were prepared" to sign him, which was then repeated on the usual clickbaity sites.

I'm not saying it's not true, but it seems to have been given much less scrutiny than reports like that are normally given.

But no one really knows exactly what is true, its all presumption, until a respected source (e.g. John Percy) says something is actually happening. Trying to work out the truth of things here is a rabbit hole with madness at the bottom.

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Re: January Transfer Window - The Verdict.
« Reply #264 on: February 02, 2023, 08:07:02 AM »
It feels like a weird thing to make up and there's been no denials anywhere in over a week.

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Re: January Transfer Window - The Verdict.
« Reply #265 on: February 02, 2023, 08:44:35 AM »
It feels like a weird thing to make up and there's been no denials anywhere in over a week.

Why would there be any "denials"?

If a club commented on every random bit of transfer gossip there wouldn't be much time for anything else.

There haven't been denials about anyone we were linked to last month, but that doesn't mean we actually were trying to sign all fifty of them.

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Re: January Transfer Window - The Verdict.
« Reply #266 on: February 02, 2023, 09:24:57 AM »
Verdict - Prudent

7 out of 10

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Re: January Transfer Window - The Verdict.
« Reply #267 on: February 02, 2023, 09:30:20 AM »
This window has been OK however if Unai manages to ensure we finish in the top half and we DO NOT go big in the summer transfer window  in order to have a real chance of qualifying for Europe next season than I am afraid we are where we have always been for the last 40 years. Missed opportunities.

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Re: January Transfer Window - The Verdict.
« Reply #268 on: February 02, 2023, 09:36:15 AM »
If we are waiting for those signings in the summer (and donít forget some of the deadweight we have Ďclearedí first is coming back then, ie Sanson and Nakamba so itís not like weíve totally cleaned the house) then we have a better chance the higher up the table we finish.

My concern is that by getting shot of all the strikers bar one (who, for all his running, is no Gerd Muller in front of goal), by not even adding a couple more faces as loans, we are going to blow the best chance in ages to be even near the European places - something which would help us attract those players we are holding out for, and which makes it less likely we end up talking about convincing our best players not to leave because 12th place is hardly indicative of a club going places.

Not if they then get Champions League Newcastle doing what we are trying to do in one year making eyes at them.

I just donít get it when I see people - sometimes the same people who get so riled about giving up in the cups - on here just wiping off the remaining half a season. 

Anyway, fingers crossed but it looks a bit half arsed to me and smells of our usual failing of never being able to make that decisive next step.

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Re: January Transfer Window - The Verdict.
« Reply #269 on: February 02, 2023, 09:36:53 AM »
It feels like a weird thing to make up and there's been no denials anywhere in over a week.

Why would there be any "denials"?

If a club commented on every random bit of transfer gossip there wouldn't be much time for anything else.

There haven't been denials about anyone we were linked to last month, but that doesn't mean we actually were trying to sign all fifty of them.

Denials is probably the wrong word but I can't imagine a story like that getting through with nothing to contradict it after a couple of weeks.

 


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