Quote from: Footy-Vill on February 01, 2023, 05:27:10 PMThere are actually agreements that are made actually and find sometimes that occurs. Makes sense to me don't have to be so dismissive if you don't agree it happened but it can happen and does happen with managers and clubs actually whereby a period of time before you can raid the old club. Goodwill gestures and or financial clauses etc Have you got any concrete examples of this? It makes no sense whatsoever from either a sporting or a legal perspective.
There are actually agreements that are made actually and find sometimes that occurs. Makes sense to me don't have to be so dismissive if you don't agree it happened but it can happen and does happen with managers and clubs actually whereby a period of time before you can raid the old club. Goodwill gestures and or financial clauses etc
If you look at the succession of blowhards, chancers and grifters we've had as managers at various stages over the last 20 years or so and there's not many (any) who go straight back to their former club to raid players. And that's despite the whole 'manager prefers players he's worked with before' football truism.
To bring something not mentioned into the Transfer Window verdict discussion and it's what I've been able to deduce- that there was the probable understanding between Villa, Villarreal, and Emery.So then we can infer from the transfer window that Emery was prohibited from signing any players from Villarreal as part of the conditions of his agreement to join Villa from Villarreal.That must be the case, in my opinion, as Danjuma on a loan option would have been appropriate for the forward positions.In addition, while we didn't sign a single player from Emery's team, other clubs, some of whom were Premier League clubs, did sign or make attempts to sign Villarreal players. Jackson and Danjuma. This could indicates that an intervening clause was required.The next question is how long this agreement will be the case, as the next window in the summer could still see the restriction in place in not being able to sign Villarreal players.Is this the price we have had to pay for getting Emery? but, that is something we can live with, as he is 100% the right coaching manager for pushing on and becoming consistent and being successful club.Up The Villa!
Well when Guardiola signed for Man City the notion was he could not sign from Bayern. There are innumerable practices of the principal agreements among football clubs and managers respecting things, but not all brought into public domain. Emery is a man of great respect and honour, therefore I assume that he agreed to refrain from further interfering with the Villareal football team's season because he could easily tap up and divert players to us.Since we never signed any, I think Rangers and Gerrard had a similar deal, which prevented us from originally purchasing any of their players for a certain period of time. prior to Rory Wilson.
Quote from: Risso on February 01, 2023, 05:34:56 PMQuote from: Footy-Vill on February 01, 2023, 05:27:10 PMThere are actually agreements that are made actually and find sometimes that occurs. Makes sense to me don't have to be so dismissive if you don't agree it happened but it can happen and does happen with managers and clubs actually whereby a period of time before you can raid the old club. Goodwill gestures and or financial clauses etc Have you got any concrete examples of this? It makes no sense whatsoever from either a sporting or a legal perspective.I’m guessing it didn’t happen when we poached Mcleish!
Not too perturbed about our seemingly lack of activity this window. Only surprise is Cam back out on loan again in light of Ings’s subsequent departure. Hey ho, trust this leaves us more pennies to spend come the summertime once Emery has another few months to further evaluate the raw material at his disposal.
Quote from: aldridgeboy on February 01, 2023, 01:09:02 PMI’m torn. Whist on the one had it seems ludicrous to let 2 of three centre forwards go, I’m also glad we aren’t just buying people for the sake of it. I’d have kept Ings , even it wiped a chunk off he’s value in the summer. Or even loaned him with a view to buy in the summer ( assuming a recall was possible )Maybe Uni can get a tune out of Bert. But really he’s more cover for Bailey than a striker.Hopefully we get lucky with injuries for the next few months https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/bertrand-traore/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/131996Centre Forward - 76 apps, 39 goals, 11 assists.He's played a fair few internationals up front as well.He's not primarily a centre forward, I don't think anyone would suggest otherwise but he's played there enough, and with enough success, to think it's something he is comfortable doing as cover. I think he's here to be competition for both forward roles for 6 months and then it'll be reviewed in the summer, which I'm ok with.If he can get 4-5 goals and a few assists in that time then he's done his job, and his record suggests that's a pretty reasonable expectation.
I’m torn. Whist on the one had it seems ludicrous to let 2 of three centre forwards go, I’m also glad we aren’t just buying people for the sake of it. I’d have kept Ings , even it wiped a chunk off he’s value in the summer. Or even loaned him with a view to buy in the summer ( assuming a recall was possible )Maybe Uni can get a tune out of Bert. But really he’s more cover for Bailey than a striker.Hopefully we get lucky with injuries for the next few months