Manchester United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Analysis

[RamboandBruno]

Only one person to blame for that tonight and that's Emery.  Said he wanted to win a trophy, yet blatantly surrenders his first opportunity to do so with an utterly ridiculous team selection against a United side there for the taking. 

Are you taking the piss

Some of the comments on here tonight have beggared belief.

Yes.  How dare we be fed up as we surrender yet another opportunity to push for silverware.  I support Emery, but he shouldn't be immune from criticism when he gets it wrong

2 games. New levels of….i dont even know what

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

We had the game and then we gifted them 3 sloppy goals. Mings arrival was a death knell. He was at his most Mingsian. Olsen isn't anywhere close to standard. Poor throughout.

I also worry about McGinn now. I think he peaked a couple of years ago and he's running out of time now. Constantly poor touch, sloppy passes and cumbersome. I've long loved McGinniesta but I'm afraid he's not good enough.

Disappointed with Chambers. He rarely put a foot wrong last season. Unlucky not to be playing ahead of Mings in fairness for much of this season, even Konsa. Based on today? Maybe not so unlucky. Very poor. Looked every inch a fourth choice. Augustinsson makes Nicky Shorey look like Roberto Carlos.

We did a lot right today. Frustrated them first half. Attacked well up until they went ahead off the back of ridiculous errors. Ramsey was a miss when he went off. Unai will have learned a lot about certain players today. We have to cut our losses with Wesley, probably Ings and buy a decent forward too.

Still, we're winning the FA Cup this season, we could do without this distraction. 
Ash played well again.

Brilliant summary supertom!
Says it all for me.

[Percy McCarthy]

Only one person to blame for that tonight and that's Emery.  Said he wanted to win a trophy, yet blatantly surrenders his first opportunity to do so with an utterly ridiculous team selection against a United side there for the taking. 

Are you taking the piss

Some of the comments on here tonight have beggared belief.

Yes.  How dare we be fed up as we surrender yet another opportunity to push for silverware.  I support Emery, but he shouldn't be immune from criticism when he gets it wrong

2 games. New levels of….i dont even know what

Jesus, it’s a thread about one of those two games. I think Emery’s a brilliant manager. Will that do?

On to tonight’s game: he fucked up.

[RamboandBruno]

Only one person to blame for that tonight and that's Emery.  Said he wanted to win a trophy, yet blatantly surrenders his first opportunity to do so with an utterly ridiculous team selection against a United side there for the taking. 

Are you taking the piss

Some of the comments on here tonight have beggared belief.

Yes.  How dare we be fed up as we surrender yet another opportunity to push for silverware.  I support Emery, but he shouldn't be immune from criticism when he gets it wrong

2 games. New levels of….i dont even know what

Jesus, it’s a thread about one of those two games. I think Emery’s a brilliant manager. Will that do?

On to tonight’s game: he fucked up.

He wanted to look at most of his squad in competitive football matches as quickly as possible.  Perfectly acceptable. Was i disappointed driving up to Manchester to hear Olsen and McGinn in particular were playing, yes of course. Do i think the manager fucked up, not really. The goalie hugely fucked for the 3rd goal, i thought he could of done a lot more for the fourth. We weren’t outplayed though, despite all the changes and the scoreline flattered them.

People have the right to criticise of course, but after the misery of the Gerrard year, some perspective is needed. Its going to be a very long few years if every time Emery tries things there is this much of a wobble.

Im disappointed were out, but im also glad the manager should have a much clearer idea about the strengths and weaknesses of his squad. The weaknesses are fairly obvious (although i dont see the criticism of Mings tonight), there were some real positives as well. I thought Luiz and Kamara played really well, Ramsey was really good and those three in Emerys system could be fantastic. Bailey looked great when he came on, Beundia ok and whilst Ollie messed up the chance to go 3-2 up, how about he took his goal brilliantly.

I got home at 1.30am after 2 hours just getting away from Manchester, even so struggling to sleep, so maybe irritable, but find some of the criticism in the context of Emerys second game, well OTT.

[Rory]

Only one person to blame for that tonight and that's Emery.  Said he wanted to win a trophy, yet blatantly surrenders his first opportunity to do so with an utterly ridiculous team selection against a United side there for the taking. 

Are you taking the piss

Some of the comments on here tonight have beggared belief.

Yes.  How dare we be fed up as we surrender yet another opportunity to push for silverware.  I support Emery, but he shouldn't be immune from criticism when he gets it wrong

2 games. New levels of….i dont even know what

Jesus, it’s a thread about one of those two games. I think Emery’s a brilliant manager. Will that do?

On to tonight’s game: he fucked up.

He wanted to look at most of his squad in competitive football matches as quickly as possible.  Perfectly acceptable. Was i disappointed driving up to Manchester to hear Olsen and McGinn in particular were playing, yes of course. Do i think the manager fucked up, not really. The goalie hugely fucked for the 3rd goal, i thought he could of done a lot more for the fourth. We weren’t outplayed though, despite all the changes and the scoreline flattered them.

People have the right to criticise of course, but after the misery of the Gerrard year, some perspective is needed. Its going to be a very long few years if every time Emery tries things there is this much of a wobble.

Im disappointed were out, but im also glad the manager should have a much clearer idea about the strengths and weaknesses of his squad. The weaknesses are fairly obvious (although i dont see the criticism of Mings tonight), there were some real positives as well. I thought Luiz and Kamara played really well, Ramsey was really good and those three in Emerys system could be fantastic. Bailey looked great when he came on, Beundia ok and whilst Ollie messed up the chance to go 3-2 up, how about he took his goal brilliantly.

I got home at 1.30am after 2 hours just getting away from Manchester, even so struggling to sleep, so maybe irritable, but find some of the criticism in the context of Emerys second game, well OTT.

Agreed. Big picture.

[jwarry]

We had the game and then we gifted them 3 sloppy goals. Mings arrival was a death knell. He was at his most Mingsian. Olsen isn't anywhere close to standard. Poor throughout.

I also worry about McGinn now. I think he peaked a couple of years ago and he's running out of time now. Constantly poor touch, sloppy passes and cumbersome. I've long loved McGinniesta but I'm afraid he's not good enough.

Disappointed with Chambers. He rarely put a foot wrong last season. Unlucky not to be playing ahead of Mings in fairness for much of this season, even Konsa. Based on today? Maybe not so unlucky. Very poor. Looked every inch a fourth choice. Augustinsson makes Nicky Shorey look like Roberto Carlos.

We did a lot right today. Frustrated them first half. Attacked well up until they went ahead off the back of ridiculous errors. Ramsey was a miss when he went off. Unai will have learned a lot about certain players today. We have to cut our losses with Wesley, probably Ings and buy a decent forward too.

Still, we're winning the FA Cup this season, we could do without this distraction. 
Ash played well again.

Brilliant summary supertom!
Says it all for me.

Yep suns it up for me too.  Players are trying to play  the way the manager wants to play and it’s inevitable some won’t make the cut.  Better he knows now with a window approaching than persevering with shoe-horning, which will never work.  Sure it’s a lost opportunity as the margins were so fine last night but to sacrifice the LC to get the team sorted is ok by me for this season

[ROBBO]

Mings looked slow to move and react, thought his inclusion weakend the defence, don't understand those knocking Emery, even though it wasn't the result we wanted I could still see the differences in playing style. Give him a few games at least.

[Perthvillan]

We really need to be patient here.
Emery really is a long- term appointment, this is going to take time.
Yes, very disappointing that we are out of LC and agree that we threw it away in that last 15 minutes.
Emery has only been in the job for ten days and he is doing his best to assess our whole squad of players.
He will have seen that some will not be here in the long term and expect our owners to support him in the coming transfer windows.
We only have one game now before the World Cup, a tough one too at Brighton which Emery said after tonight that it was very important.
I'm sure we will be set up to be more solid at the back and hopefully give them a good game.
It looks like we only may have 3 players going to WC so Emery will use this time to further assess what he has to work with.
I'm feeling positive about the second half of the season.
UTV

[London Villan]

Very frustrating, but understandable why he picked the team he did. Just a shame with how the draw has worked out too.

Let’s hope he learnt a lot from last night.

[TopDeck113]

Took me a ridiculous amount of time to get home considering Bury is on the same tram route as Old Trafford.

There were some positives last night but ultimately that is another cup match against them that got away when we could easily have won.

Can't add much to what has been said regarding the weak links. Their time is up.  However, two games in ti Emery's reign and there are some real positives. After the weekend he's got the World Cup break to weave his magic. I fully expect that come Christmas we'll be a team not conceding so readily on our travels.

[simboy]

Olsen? Awful. Cost us at least two goals, as well as limited our options when playing out from the back. It’s hard enough to do but when you have a keeper who can make the option but impossible when the keeper hasn’t a clue what the right option is, let alone take it. As a fundamental of goalkeeping I would have thought using your hands was part of it.

From such a poor performance by a keeper, your back four have one more thing to think about. Not just playing their man, positioning and looking for the best ball in their triangle, but what is that twat behind us doing and where can I play it that doesn’t involve him.

Chambers lack of pace exposed for the first. They targeted him more as the game went on. To be outpaced by that cheat is criminal.

We lost shape as we chased the game. It happens. However, we really shouldn’t have been chasing the game.

McGinn, I think will be moved on. Hasn’t been much for a year or so now.

There were some positives. Watkins, Bailey. Kamara with 90 minutes in his legs and Luiz working well with him. JJ looked the part again.

Emery will undoubtedly use this to work out what’s needed to move us forward.

[Ian.]

Ashley Young was superb again last night. What a player he is. I loved the way he talks to Ramsey and helps him. he’s such an asset to our younger players.

[Axl Rose]

Watching the game back, the defence was all over the place at times.

Having Olsen in goal didn't help anyone. A professional footballer, my arse. Absolutely atrocious.

As for Mings, fucking hell. Surely a senior pro should have come on and steadied the ship. Also atrocious.

Both need a good telling off for that shite. Like the chuckle brothers. They weren't alone of course, and there were some nice performances from other players, but fucking hell. Midfield is so poor at times, with Luiz and McGinn giving the ball away, not being able to pass even three yards. It's really poor.

Anyway, up the Villa

[Bad English]

I was disappointed with the line-up, disappointed that we threw away the lead in 60 seconds like pub players, disappointed that Olsen played like my nan during a game of Twister on Boxing Day, disappointed that we folded at the end but after a good night's sleep, the game is in the past.

I do, however, expect a dismantling of Brighton away in compensation. And the FA Cup 2023.

[sid1964]

The performance last night reminded me of that film title "the good, the bad and the ugly"

In the 2nd half we could not cope with their pace up front (Rashford and the winger, who I cannot remember his name)

To concede the equaliser 19 seconds after they kicked off is unforgiveable.

Emery will have learned a lot about his squad (i would imagine that next summer there will be a fair few looking for new clubs)

I am surprised that Mings is allowed to chew gum whilst playing (health and safety), lets hope he is never knocked unconscious

Hopefully Sunday will see a better performance, but Brighton are currently playing very well