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Re: Manchester United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Analysis
« Reply #120 on: November 10, 2022, 11:18:07 PM »
Already caning the manager nine days and two games into his appointment. Four days ago we beat these c*nts comfortably at home in the league for the first time since 1995. Criticism of team selection at this point is thoroughly and utterly mental.

Yes it is, considering he's still getting to know then.  You learn more from defeats than you do from winning.  Tonight will have taught him a lot.  This is not 'no plan B' Gerrard. 

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Re: Manchester United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Analysis
« Reply #121 on: November 10, 2022, 11:18:17 PM »
Already caning the manager nine days and two games into his appointment. Four days ago we beat these c*nts comfortably at home in the league for the first time since 1995. Criticism of team selection at this point is thoroughly and utterly mental.
Couldn't agree more.

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Re: Manchester United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Analysis
« Reply #122 on: November 10, 2022, 11:19:38 PM »
Young has been consistently one of our best performers of the season.  Digne is returning from injury.  Bailey has had serious injury problems for 12 months. McGinn is our "captain".  Olsen Probably had cup fixtures in his contract, if not the gaffer needed to know if he is worth having on the bench.  Ings is a £20m striker that needed to show if he is worth retaining.  Those questions are now answered.  I don't expect to see those players in a Villa shirt again, barring injury.  I'd rather be out of the cup and still in the PL.  Without tarring him withh the same brush  Buendia isn't consistently performing.  How is the manager expected to know his squad without seeing them play?  Sack the manager?  How many times do you need to change the man at the top before you realise that the boots on the ground are the problem?  I think there are issues in the dressing room that need addressing, namely McGinn...

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Re: Manchester United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Analysis
« Reply #123 on: November 10, 2022, 11:21:25 PM »
Only one person to blame for that tonight and that's Emery.  Said he wanted to win a trophy, yet blatantly surrenders his first opportunity to do so with an utterly ridiculous team selection against a United side there for the taking. 

Are you taking the piss
Some of the comments on here tonight have beggared belief.
No he right.  Unai picked a Gerrard team formation
The starting 11 he's being slated for went in at half time 0-0. We were pretty much at full strength when the collapse happened. Our new manager has a 4 year contract and is being paid a lot of money to sort it out. It's going to be a bumpy road ahead but he needs time. Crucially he needs to look at his squad in competitive matches before he starts the rebuild. Rome wasn't built in a day.
Had he started with Sunday’s team which was way way different to tonight’s team - then we would have won tonight. 

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Re: Manchester United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Analysis
« Reply #124 on: November 10, 2022, 11:21:45 PM »
Considering Olsen was on the bench v Bolton I think we can safely say he doesn't have that in his contract.

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Re: Manchester United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Analysis
« Reply #125 on: November 10, 2022, 11:22:02 PM »
If he had started with Sunday's team we wouldn't have gone through even if we had won six-nil.
« Last Edit: November 10, 2022, 11:26:02 PM by cdbearsfan »

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Re: Manchester United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Analysis
« Reply #126 on: November 10, 2022, 11:23:00 PM »
Already caning the manager nine days and two games into his appointment. Four days ago we beat these c*nts comfortably at home in the league for the first time since 1995. Criticism of team selection at this point is thoroughly and utterly mental.
Couldn't agree more.
You cane a manager when they screw up and we go out of a cup unnecessarily

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Re: Manchester United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Analysis
« Reply #127 on: November 10, 2022, 11:23:28 PM »
I'm not too sure about everyone else but I thought a bit of shithousing after our first goal would have been wise. It was a bit like a Palace away, where we didn't concentrate and let them straight back in it. Looking back, there wasnt a great deal wrong and it was a hopefully a huge learning curve for Unai.

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Re: Manchester United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Analysis
« Reply #128 on: November 10, 2022, 11:23:51 PM »
If he has started with Sunday's team we wouldn't have gone through even if we had won six-nil.
Why?

Offline Paul.S

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Re: Manchester United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Analysis
« Reply #129 on: November 10, 2022, 11:25:01 PM »
What the fuck is wrong with managers….?

This is on our manager.

Unai picked an absolute stinker of a team and formation.

The high of Sunday is matched by the low of tonight.

Unai REALLY fucked up tonight.

So pissed off. 



If the players chosen tonight aren't good enough to play at this level then the outcome is that they should never step onto the pitch in our colours again.  Emery has given them an opportunity to show their worth, they failed.  Olsen, McGinn and Ings were utterly anonymous tonight and I will happily wave them goodbye in January.  At what point Olsen realises that, as a 'keeper, he is allowed to actually catch the ball might be the tipping point for his career.  Ings did a remarkably good impression of McGinn and vice versa. Disappointing result, however if lessons have been learnt then that might be for the best on the long term, out of the Milk Cup being preferable to relegation. 

If Emery isn't allowed to test his squad at the highest levels then he will not know their capabilities.  Let's just hope he has learned what he needs to about his resevres.
You don’t test a winning team with a 5/6 week break window.

He should have played Sunday’s team.

Not playing Martinez was criminal.  Worse was not bringing him on.

He couldn’t play Sundays team. Dendoncker was cup tied. Add to that Cash still only a few games after an injury, Digne only 1 game back and Bailey taken off as a precaution. Buendia ran himself into the ground only a few days ago and he struggles to complete 90. Another game on Sunday put us at a huge disadvantage but this is purely down to the squad not being good enough and the fitness levels not being up to scratch. Brighton made changes last night and won and we took the lead twice tonight. Didn’t the team have confidence after beating Brentford 4-0? and we all know what happened at Newcastle the game after.
The damage done during Gerrard’s reign has been massive but even during Smith’s last few months the signs were there. Emery has to manage a fragile, weak squad until January and that’s what he’s done. Poor result and annoying but I can understand why he did what he did tonight.

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Re: Manchester United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Analysis
« Reply #130 on: November 10, 2022, 11:25:35 PM »
If he has started with Sunday's team we wouldn't have gone through even if we had won six-nil.
Why?

Because Dendoncker is cup tied.

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Re: Manchester United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Analysis
« Reply #131 on: November 10, 2022, 11:25:38 PM »
If he had started with Sunday's team we wouldn't have gone through even if we had won six-nil.
Why?

Because Dendoncker was ineligible.

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Re: Manchester United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Analysis
« Reply #132 on: November 10, 2022, 11:26:01 PM »
Only one person to blame for that tonight and that's Emery.  Said he wanted to win a trophy, yet blatantly surrenders his first opportunity to do so with an utterly ridiculous team selection against a United side there for the taking. 

Are you taking the piss
Some of the comments on here tonight have beggared belief.
No he right.  Unai picked a Gerrard team formation
The starting 11 he's being slated for went in at half time 0-0. We were pretty much at full strength when the collapse happened. Our new manager has a 4 year contract and is being paid a lot of money to sort it out. It's going to be a bumpy road ahead but he needs time. Crucially he needs to look at his squad in competitive matches before he starts the rebuild. Rome wasn't built in a day.
Had he started with Sunday’s team which was way way different to tonight’s team - then we would have won tonight.
You can't possibly know that. And how is he going to decide who to keep and who not to without giving them a game? What do you suggest? Try them all in a PL game? We absolutely can not afford to drop points in the league. Every club has a look at fringe players in Cup game. Even Man City do it.

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Re: Manchester United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Analysis
« Reply #133 on: November 10, 2022, 11:27:33 PM »
Already caning the manager nine days and two games into his appointment. Four days ago we beat these c*nts comfortably at home in the league for the first time since 1995. Criticism of team selection at this point is thoroughly and utterly mental.
Couldn't agree more.
You cane a manager when they screw up and we go out of a cup unnecessarily
After two games? Utterly ridiculous.

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Re: Manchester United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Analysis
« Reply #134 on: November 10, 2022, 11:28:59 PM »
I did think he made too many subs.

 


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