Players Who Simply Aren’t Good Enough

[usav]

Where was this thread last weekend?

I was on holiday mate.  I could have made this thread at any point this season, in some cases last season.

[SoccerHQ]

Bailey gets disposed of ball too easily but I liked that run first half when he breezed past one of the CBs and set up Bunedia who really should've got the ball out of his feet quicker.

Could've easily been an assist to add to the two last week so at least he's having moments in games now so interested what Emery can and can't do with him.

[PaulTheVillan]

If Emery thinks they’re all not good enough then ok, let him do what he needs.

If Emery thinks they are all good enough, then it’s on his head.

[passport1]

It would be nice to think our players just need a bit of coaching but given that many of them have been hopeless under the two previous coaches I think we won't see much improvement until they are binned . Candidates include Watkins,Mings,Konsa. Top end Championship players at best.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Jacob Ramsey? Can't remember his last good game in a Villa shirt. I'm going to wait and see what our new Head Coach thinks before playing Scapegoat. Right now they're all crap.

[London Villan]

It's consistency, not quality, that is the issue. All of the starting 11 today have been unplayable (in a good way) at some point in the last couple of years. How the new manager sorts this I don't know. So frustrating.

[Risso]

McGinn. Patently.

Can we toss a coin to see who gets to drive him to wherever he wants to go?

[N'ZMAV]

There's some quality in the squad, but there's a real lack of strong and winning mentality. These lot look defeated as soon as they concede.

[gpbarr]

Unai will sort the wheat from the chaff.

My guess is that players like Emi, Ezri, Jacob, Bailey, Buendia, Dougie, and Leandro will thrive under his coaching. But that in particular, Mings, McGinn, Watkins and Ings will all find themselves increasingly sidelined as he brings in more dynamic, better quality football players.

Today was always going to be tough. But perhaps a silver lining as Unai sees first hand the size of the challenge he has ahead of him.       

[Beard82]

We do need to cash in on some of these players.

As said above consitency is the issue

Also we haven’t bought enough players with that drive and determination - that Emi M has for example

But what I don’t get is why none of these players ever get dropped

[Paul.S]

Unai will sort the wheat from the chaff.

My guess is that players like Emi, Ezri, Jacob, Bailey, Buendia, Dougie, and Leandro will thrive under his coaching. But that in particular, Mings, McGinn, Watkins and Ings will all find themselves increasingly sidelined as he brings in more dynamic, better quality football players.

Today was always going to be tough. But perhaps a silver lining as Unai sees first hand the size of the challenge he has ahead of him.     

There’s no doubt Emery will sort out the players that can’t take us any further and to where he wants to take us. He’s coached some of the best players in the world and will be shocked by the lack of technical ability displayed by some. It wouldn’t surprise me to see the likes of Sanson being given game time either. He can improve us with his coaching though and I expect he will but we definitely need more technically gifted footballers.
Keeping the ball takes pressure off the defence and creates chances and we just cannot do that enough with what we currently have.
I didn’t expect anything today but I didn’t expect
this capitulation either. Perhaps it’s better he’s seen us at our worst. He’s got a huge job on his hands.

[Ian.]

I’ll reserve judgement after seeing what happens under a manager who knows what he is doing.

[hilts_coolerking]

Depends what the next level is.  If it's simply getting out the relegation mire then maybe just a new striker.  Emery has to be given a chance to coach some skill and brains into them.

Mid-table, then we'll probably need some defensive replacements.

8-6 regularly.  I'd be surprised if many are left by this point

6 or higher.  I don't see this happening.

[Footy-Vill]

There's some quality in the squad, but there's a real lack of strong and winning mentality. These lot look defeated as soon as they concede.

McGinn. Patently.

Can we toss a coin to see who gets to drive him to wherever he wants to go?

I believe it is about consistency as well as players who are good enough. As I think everyone outside of McGinn is up to it to some level. Unfortunately John isn't.
Or, if we prefer,  the players who are good enough on a consistent basis?

Who has the potential to improve and  the potential to peak?
And who has now got to their levels , or fallen, while also testing our patience and appreciation?

Again my answer to the last and how testing be is would be John McGinn.

[Legion]

I think we need to see the Emery effect first.