Unai Emery

[boozey182]

And, while I fully confess to not understanding the rules, I think I can hazard a guess why we didn't replace Jacob Ramsey's £70,000 a week with Jack Grealish's £300,000.

I'd rather Grealish and Ramsey on £370k a week than Sancho and Elliott on the same.

I completely agree. Fortunately, a quick Google suggests we aren't paying Sancho and Elliot anywhere near that amount, so we don't need to worry ourselves with those kinds of comparisons.

[eamonn]

Well that's something I guess...I can't see a reliable number for what we are paying Sancho and Elliot, what did you find?

[olaftab]

For me Emery is now a bit like Simone is to AM. Fix the problems around the club there is no need to fix the manager. We won't get a better coach.

100% - I think I said it somewhere else - I am far more worried that he will have enough of us than vice versa.

Yes. At Sevilla in the 2015-16 season, Emery lost three and drew two of the first five league matches (scoring only twice) and ended up winning the Europa League, while finishing fifth in La Liga.

[jwarry]

For me Emery is now a bit like Simone is to AM. Fix the problems around the club there is no need to fix the manager. We won't get a better coach.

100% - I think I said it somewhere else - I am far more worried that he will have enough of us than vice versa.

Yes. At Sevilla in the 2015-16 season, Emery lost three and drew two of the first five league matches (scoring only twice) and ended up winning the Europa League, while finishing fifth in La Liga.

That is comforting to know

[boozey182]

Well that's something I guess...I can't see a reliable number for what we are paying Sancho and Elliot, what did you find?

From what I read, we're paying Sancho 80% of his wages (which I think will work at around £160,000), and Elliot was on £65,000 a week at Liverpool, so we'll be matching that, but you'd have thought it will go up when we sign him next summer.

It's all too much for what they've contributed so far, but hopefully that will change pretty quickly. The one thing we need to do is ensure we're getting value out of these wages, because everything unravels when we drop down the league.

[Ian.]

For me Emery is now a bit like Simone is to AM. Fix the problems around the club there is no need to fix the manager. We won't get a better coach.

100% - I think I said it somewhere else - I am far more worried that he will have enough of us than vice versa.

Yes. At Sevilla in the 2015-16 season, Emery lost three and drew two of the first five league matches (scoring only twice) and ended up winning the Europa League, while finishing fifth in La Liga.

That is comforting to know

Yep, that certainly is, keep the faith, as they say.

[Drummond]

Only 7 teams have conceded less goals than us so far, which means our defence is working ok. The obvious issue is up front and given we have kept Watkins and Rogers and changed everyone else they just need some time to settle in and for Emery to work his magic....

We'd already played 3 of our 4 games before those players arrived, and then had the international break when most of our squad was away. We just need to give Emery some time with them, and this week will see an improvement, and we will score.

[paul_e]

Well that's something I guess...I can't see a reliable number for what we are paying Sancho and Elliot, what did you find?

From what I read, we're paying Sancho 80% of his wages (which I think will work at around £160,000), and Elliot was on £65,000 a week at Liverpool, so we'll be matching that, but you'd have thought it will go up when we sign him next summer.

It's all too much for what they've contributed so far, but hopefully that will change pretty quickly. The one thing we need to do is ensure we're getting value out of these wages, because everything unravels when we drop down the league.

Yep, that's what I can find as well, so about 150-160k cheaper (or £8m a year).

[algy]

More recent signings like Elliot and Sancho on loan to be added there.

They're just down as "loan", as were Rashford and Asensio. We loan loads of players out too, who are just listed as "loan" so going to assume that they roughly balance out.

That's a big assumption. We tend to loan-in good players and loan-out shit or young ones.

That may be true, but there's no figures on transfermarkt and I can't be arsed researching it any more thoroughly than that.  I'd think any loan fee is unlikely to be in the tens-of-millions range, so the figures aren't going to be massively off regardless.

[Pat Mustard]

For me Emery is now a bit like Simone is to AM. Fix the problems around the club there is no need to fix the manager. We won't get a better coach.

100% - I think I said it somewhere else - I am far more worried that he will have enough of us than vice versa.

Yes. At Sevilla in the 2015-16 season, Emery lost three and drew two of the first five league matches (scoring only twice) and ended up winning the Europa League, while finishing fifth in La Liga.

Can I just add that in 1989-90 and 1992-93 Villa only won 5 points from the first 6/7 games, and finished 2nd in both seasons.  Champions League here we come.

[LeeB]

For me Emery is now a bit like Simone is to AM. Fix the problems around the club there is no need to fix the manager. We won't get a better coach.

100% - I think I said it somewhere else - I am far more worried that he will have enough of us than vice versa.

Yes. At Sevilla in the 2015-16 season, Emery lost three and drew two of the first five league matches (scoring only twice) and ended up winning the Europa League, while finishing fifth in La Liga.

Can I just add that in 1989-90 and 1992-93 Villa only won 5 points from the first 6/7 games, and finished 2nd in both seasons.  Champions League here we come.

Shit domestic cup penalty loss in London in 92-93 also.

[Steve67]

Sunderland, Fulham and Burnley next.  Time to get things back on track. 7 points from 9 if you please.

[Pete3206]

9 preferably.

It does mean having to score though.

[Brend'Watkins]

For me Emery is now a bit like Simone is to AM. Fix the problems around the club there is no need to fix the manager. We won't get a better coach.

100% - I think I said it somewhere else - I am far more worried that he will have enough of us than vice versa.

Yes. At Sevilla in the 2015-16 season, Emery lost three and drew two of the first five league matches (scoring only twice) and ended up winning the Europa League, while finishing fifth in La Liga.

That is comforting to know

Yep, that certainly is, keep the faith, as they say.

Yes, very encouraging. He can draw on that experience.

I can’t help but feel that our preparation for the season has been poor even with all the off field nonsense. We need all that out of our system and to now focus.