Quote from: Ian. on August 21, 2025, 05:52:29 PMQuote from: brontebilly on August 21, 2025, 04:01:17 PMQuote from: Hookeysmith on August 21, 2025, 12:57:42 PMSome players just click when they are part of a certain pairing or team set up.Luiz had spent a lot of time with us and never really shone (a worldy against Sheff Wed aside) It was really only the season he formed a partnership with Kamara and had Tielemans breathing down his neck did he really come to prominence.And then when offered a nice contract, on the back of that single season, decided not to sign it.Lets not think we lost a McGinn or a Mings or a Konsa - players that have done it regulary over seasons.Luiz was our POTY the season before Tielemans arrived! I always rated Dougie from the moment we signed him. He was a class above most of the squad but unfortunately used too deep for long periods due to injuries or no real number six.I rated Luiz very highly too. For me his peak was higher than Tielemans as he brought goals, he carried Tielemans for months too when he first came. At times his application could certainly be questioned but that's where Emery was a great fit for him. Can't remember the game but Luiz had been outstanding scoring one if not two goals from midfield but Emery went after him in the post game interview. Luiz/Kamara at their peak, I'm struggling to think of many midfield battles we lost. There was definitely one game at Chelsea where Luiz took the piss out of their 200m midfield constantly. Juve didn't work but I'm not sure how 'only' Forest have managed to land him. He's miles above Onana and Barkley, I reckon he takes Tielemans at his best.
Quote from: brontebilly on August 21, 2025, 04:01:17 PMQuote from: Hookeysmith on August 21, 2025, 12:57:42 PMSome players just click when they are part of a certain pairing or team set up.Luiz had spent a lot of time with us and never really shone (a worldy against Sheff Wed aside) It was really only the season he formed a partnership with Kamara and had Tielemans breathing down his neck did he really come to prominence.And then when offered a nice contract, on the back of that single season, decided not to sign it.Lets not think we lost a McGinn or a Mings or a Konsa - players that have done it regulary over seasons.Luiz was our POTY the season before Tielemans arrived! I always rated Dougie from the moment we signed him. He was a class above most of the squad but unfortunately used too deep for long periods due to injuries or no real number six.
Quote from: Hookeysmith on August 21, 2025, 12:57:42 PMSome players just click when they are part of a certain pairing or team set up.Luiz had spent a lot of time with us and never really shone (a worldy against Sheff Wed aside) It was really only the season he formed a partnership with Kamara and had Tielemans breathing down his neck did he really come to prominence.And then when offered a nice contract, on the back of that single season, decided not to sign it.Lets not think we lost a McGinn or a Mings or a Konsa - players that have done it regulary over seasons.Luiz was our POTY the season before Tielemans arrived!
Some players just click when they are part of a certain pairing or team set up.Luiz had spent a lot of time with us and never really shone (a worldy against Sheff Wed aside) It was really only the season he formed a partnership with Kamara and had Tielemans breathing down his neck did he really come to prominence.And then when offered a nice contract, on the back of that single season, decided not to sign it.Lets not think we lost a McGinn or a Mings or a Konsa - players that have done it regulary over seasons.
Quote from: brontebilly on August 21, 2025, 11:39:37 PMQuote from: Ian. on August 21, 2025, 05:52:29 PMQuote from: brontebilly on August 21, 2025, 04:01:17 PMQuote from: Hookeysmith on August 21, 2025, 12:57:42 PMSome players just click when they are part of a certain pairing or team set up.Luiz had spent a lot of time with us and never really shone (a worldy against Sheff Wed aside) It was really only the season he formed a partnership with Kamara and had Tielemans breathing down his neck did he really come to prominence.And then when offered a nice contract, on the back of that single season, decided not to sign it.Lets not think we lost a McGinn or a Mings or a Konsa - players that have done it regulary over seasons.Luiz was our POTY the season before Tielemans arrived! I always rated Dougie from the moment we signed him. He was a class above most of the squad but unfortunately used too deep for long periods due to injuries or no real number six.I rated Luiz very highly too. For me his peak was higher than Tielemans as he brought goals, he carried Tielemans for months too when he first came. At times his application could certainly be questioned but that's where Emery was a great fit for him. Can't remember the game but Luiz had been outstanding scoring one if not two goals from midfield but Emery went after him in the post game interview. Luiz/Kamara at their peak, I'm struggling to think of many midfield battles we lost. There was definitely one game at Chelsea where Luiz took the piss out of their 200m midfield constantly. Juve didn't work but I'm not sure how 'only' Forest have managed to land him. He's miles above Onana and Barkley, I reckon he takes Tielemans at his best. It's that thing though isn't, "Why can't everybody else see what I can?"If he was the player you think he is, he wouldn't be going to Forest after, and it needs to be frank, absoutely stinking out Juve so much they're willing to cut their losses and flog him at half the price.
Will he be first choice at Forest? I doubt he would be for us now.
The fact Luiz was an outstanding player for us under Emery isn't open to question. Forest doing impressively well to have Anderson and Luiz in their midfield now.
His form certainly dipped in the second half of the season before he left. First half he was a Rolls Royce.
Quote from: brontebilly on Today at 01:11:03 PMThe fact Luiz was an outstanding player for us under Emery isn't open to question. Forest doing impressively well to have Anderson and Luiz in their midfield now.Was he 'outstanding'? - I loved the guy but I think he was inconsistent: prone to silly errors and also very good.