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Offline hilts_coolerking

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Re: Unai Emery - our manager
« Reply #4260 on: April 02, 2023, 11:58:04 AM »
George Ramsay did rather well a while ago. 1895/96 winning 20 from 30, I would call that about 66%. And then 21 out of 30 the following season.
I was using the table on wikipedia which puts Emery a smidge ahead of Ramsay but as we know wikipedia isn't infallible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Aston_Villa_F.C._managers

You know what I'm going to say now, aren't you?
That it's totally inaccurate?  I figured it wouldn't be 100% but is it badly wrong?

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Re: Unai Emery - our manager
« Reply #4261 on: April 02, 2023, 12:00:01 PM »
George Ramsay did rather well a while ago. 1895/96 winning 20 from 30, I would call that about 66%. And then 21 out of 30 the following season.
I was using the table on wikipedia which puts Emery a smidge ahead of Ramsay but as we know wikipedia isn't infallible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Aston_Villa_F.C._managers
Why don’t we ask Ashley Young - I think he made his debut the first time round under Ramsay

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Re: Unai Emery - our manager
« Reply #4262 on: April 02, 2023, 12:07:05 PM »
We often played like the Keystone Kops before Unai; now it's like Hawaii Five O and the Shield. FTF!
« Last Edit: April 02, 2023, 12:12:51 PM by Bad English »

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Re: Unai Emery - our manager
« Reply #4263 on: April 02, 2023, 12:07:13 PM »
The guy is on another level, tactics, analysis, work ethic, knowledge the lot. When you compare the SG who just put players in at random and hoped it would work...it's worlds apart.

I am feeling weirdly optimistic about the Villa.

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Re: Unai Emery - our manager
« Reply #4264 on: April 02, 2023, 01:20:15 PM »
The guy is on another level, tactics, analysis, work ethic, knowledge the lot. When you compare the SG who just put players in at random and hoped it would work...it's worlds apart.

Not just SG, my 72 year old uncle reckons he's the best tactician we've had as manager in his time following the Villa.

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Re: Unai Emery - our manager
« Reply #4265 on: April 02, 2023, 01:34:31 PM »
It’s been said before but again, you cannot underestimate the job Emery has done, it is a  quite remarkable turnaround. That dark night at Fulham in October I thought we were done for and now we’re sitting in the top half with an outside chance of Europe. Incredible. What a difference a hugely competent coach makes.

I think you can under-estimate it. You could say it’s new manager bounce. Did you mean you can’t over-estimate it?

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Re: Unai Emery - our manager
« Reply #4266 on: April 02, 2023, 01:49:25 PM »
It’s been said before but again, you cannot underestimate the job Emery has done, it is a  quite remarkable turnaround. That dark night at Fulham in October I thought we were done for and now we’re sitting in the top half with an outside chance of Europe. Incredible. What a difference a hugely competent coach makes.

I think you can under-estimate it. You could say it’s new manager bounce. Did you mean you can’t over-estimate it?

I'd change cannot to "should not" and it makes the point Matt is (I suspect) making a lot clearer. No one in their wildest dreams would've predicted us starting April with a genuine shot at the top 6 when Gerrard got sacked. We were in a relegation battle and needed someone to come in and put some daylight between us and the bottom 3. When he arrived we'd just taken kickings from Fulham and Newcastle either side of our only genuinely good performance of the season against Brentford and were 1 point clear of the bottom 3, that gap is now 16 points meaning we've widened it by a point a game since Emery arrived, that's not just good, that's a fairytale.

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Re: Unai Emery - our manager
« Reply #4267 on: April 02, 2023, 01:51:14 PM »
George Ramsay did rather well a while ago. 1895/96 winning 20 from 30, I would call that about 66%. And then 21 out of 30 the following season.
I was using the table on wikipedia which puts Emery a smidge ahead of Ramsay but as we know wikipedia isn't infallible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Aston_Villa_F.C._managers
I think we can relook at that table when Unai has a few more matches, maybe like 1300 or so, under his belt. :)

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Re: Unai Emery - our manager
« Reply #4268 on: April 02, 2023, 02:27:20 PM »
It’s been said before but again, you cannot underestimate the job Emery has done, it is a  quite remarkable turnaround. That dark night at Fulham in October I thought we were done for and now we’re sitting in the top half with an outside chance of Europe. Incredible. What a difference a hugely competent coach makes.

I think you can under-estimate it. You could say it’s new manager bounce. Did you mean you can’t over-estimate it?

I'd change cannot to "should not" and it makes the point Matt is (I suspect) making a lot clearer. No one in their wildest dreams would've predicted us starting April with a genuine shot at the top 6 when Gerrard got sacked. We were in a relegation battle and needed someone to come in and put some daylight between us and the bottom 3. When he arrived we'd just taken kickings from Fulham and Newcastle either side of our only genuinely good performance of the season against Brentford and were 1 point clear of the bottom 3, that gap is now 16 points meaning we've widened it by a point a game since Emery arrived, that's not just good, that's a fairytale.

Yes, my typo. I definitely overestimated my phone typing abilities.

Think I read yesterday we were 12 places behind Chelsea when Emery arrived. Again, incredible turnaround in such a short amount of time.

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Re: Unai Emery - our manager
« Reply #4269 on: April 02, 2023, 02:34:16 PM »
It’s been said before but again, you cannot underestimate the job Emery has done, it is a  quite remarkable turnaround. That dark night at Fulham in October I thought we were done for and now we’re sitting in the top half with an outside chance of Europe. Incredible. What a difference a hugely competent coach makes.

I think you can under-estimate it. You could say it’s new manager bounce. Did you mean you can’t over-estimate it?
That's going to become a new go-to phrase for me. You can't underestimate how good Steven Gerrard was at man management.

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Re: Unai Emery - our manager
« Reply #4270 on: April 02, 2023, 02:52:24 PM »
George Ramsay did rather well a while ago. 1895/96 winning 20 from 30, I would call that about 66%. And then 21 out of 30 the following season.
I was using the table on wikipedia which puts Emery a smidge ahead of Ramsay but as we know wikipedia isn't infallible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Aston_Villa_F.C._managers

You know what I'm going to say now, aren't you?
That it's totally inaccurate?  I figured it wouldn't be 100% but is it badly wrong?

Ramsay wasn't manager.

Offline Lastfootstamper

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Re: Unai Emery - our manager
« Reply #4271 on: April 02, 2023, 02:56:30 PM »
It’s been said before but again, you cannot underestimate the job Emery has done, it is a  quite remarkable turnaround. That dark night at Fulham in October I thought we were done for and now we’re sitting in the top half with an outside chance of Europe. Incredible. What a difference a hugely competent coach makes.

I think you can under-estimate it. You could say it’s new manager bounce. Did you mean you can’t over-estimate it?


Understate, mebbe?

Offline eamonn

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Re: Unai Emery - our manager
« Reply #4272 on: April 02, 2023, 03:03:23 PM »

As somebody (apologies, I can't remember who) said earlier, something serious is happening.

Wasn't it Celine Dion?

Offline LeeB

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Re: Unai Emery - our manager
« Reply #4273 on: April 02, 2023, 03:04:36 PM »

As somebody (apologies, I can't remember who) said earlier, something serious is happening.

Wasn't it Celine Dion?

No, it was me. She was down with thinking twice.

Offline eamonn

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Re: Unai Emery - our manager
« Reply #4274 on: April 02, 2023, 03:30:03 PM »
It was the song I was thinking of, alright ("Baby, this is serious..."). Number one for an insufferable amount of time and coming less than a year when WetWetWet hogged the top spot for months too. So much for the heady mid-90s...

 


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