Leeds 0 Gerrard Out XI 0 Post Match Thread

[PaulWinch again]

Marsh is a bloody hypocrite. Yes Villa were slow, but his side, even before they had a man sent off, were a bunch of cynical fouling bastards. He’s not some footballing genius, and his team are a load of cloggers.

[Nelly]

Personally, I loved when Mings picked up Bamford by the scruff of the neck, but if anyone did that to a Villa player, I'd sing abuse at them forever. I think it's easy to claim it's a race related thing but I'd need to see more evidence before claiming that, myself.

For me, Villa were the most offensive thing tonight. I hate the way we play. Someone on page 1 mentioned that we seem to just have big name players on the pitch and expect them to make it work. That's what we used to accuse Bruce of. Is this continual progress?

[cdbearsfan]

Yeah, sure. Leeds are renowned for their sense of fair play.

Have a look. I didn’t get the impression it’s race related.

Racists don't tend to think of themselves as racist. It's only started since Mings was outspoken about racism. It doesn't happen at clubs like Man U where he did make a bad tackle against them, it does happen at Leeds with their notoriously racist fans.

[PaulWinch again]

Personally, I loved when Mings picked up Bamford by the scruff of the neck, but if anyone did that to a Villa player, I'd sing abuse at them forever. I think it's easy to claim it's a race related thing but I'd need to see more evidence before claiming that, myself.

For me, Villa were the most offensive thing tonight. I hate the way we play. Someone on page 1 mentioned that we seem to just have big name players on the pitch and expect them to make it work. That's what we used to accuse Bruce of. Is this continual progress?

Leeds are a horrible cynical side.

[ASHTONVILLA]

Why wasn't Chambers on the bench and what has Gerrard got against Cam Archer?

Must admit I thought it strange he didn't use Chambers when Carlos got injured, or before even (had Carlos and Chambers down as first choice pairing). However credit to Gerrard he has got the Mings / Konsa partnership looking more like the solid unit it used to be.

I also though that Guilbert should be right back after Cash got injured, but Young has been very good, if anything better than Cash has been this season.

Be interesting to see who plays left back next game. One thing I will credit Gerrard with, he hasn't used injuries as an excuse, hasn't used lack of signings as an excuse.

[Malandro]

Yeah, sure. Leeds are renowned for their sense of fair play.

Have a look. I didn’t get the impression it’s race related.

Racists don't tend to think of themselves as racist. It's only started since Mings was outspoken about racism. It doesn't happen at clubs like Man U where he did make a bad tackle against them, it does happen at Leeds with their notoriously racist fans.

Different folks, I guess. If I call someone a racist, I’ll be sure to have grounds for it.

[cdbearsfan]

It's not "someone". It's a club with a long history of racism.

[passport1]

Another truly awful spectacle. I was glad my two year old grandson was running around the house while the game was on. He provided a very welcome distraction.

[saint13]

Watkins is willing, but well below the standard required.

He did everything right in terms of runs and hold up play, and never looked like scoring in a million years

Exactly, he takes up decent positions but his finishing lacks any guile, craft or precision. On most occasions he hits it tamely, straight at the keeper. He makes Raheem Sterling look like a clinical finisher.

[Malandro]

It's not "someone". It's a club with a long history of racism.

If you have any evidence from today, hand it over.

[cdbearsfan]

I'm not going to pop to Leeds and interview every fan. They're a club with a long history of racism, Tyrone Mings is an outspoken supporter of BLM.

If you'd rather believe that every Leeds fan has abandoned decades of racism and that the Norman Hunter Stand have suddenly become steadfast supporters of fair play, you can do.

After our last match there, their supporters were racially abusing Ghana Villains online all night. Maybe they've changed, given the ongoing abuse that Tyrone Mings (and precisely no other players) received, I doubt it.

[Malandro]

I'm not going to pop to Leeds and interview every fan. They're a club with a long history of racism, Tyrone Mings is an outspoken supporter of BLM.

If you'd rather believe that every Leeds fan has abandoned decades of racism and that the Norman Hunter Stand have suddenly become steadfast supporters of fair play, you can do.

Well tag all Villa fans like that too then. As we also have racist c**ts.

[cdbearsfan]

Villa undoubtedly have racist ****** among our support. They've never been in the majority, though, like at Leeds, Millwall, Chelsea, Lazio, Zenit, etc.

And I'm not labelling all Leeds fans. Just the ones that abuse Tyrone Mings and none of our other players. Because they're racist ******.

[Risso]

Mings has had various run ins with Bamford and picked him up in a fairly 'agricultural' manner on at least a couple of occasions, including the El Ghazi sending off game in the Championship, and then again in the game where Bamford got the hat trick in our second season back up. One of my two best mates is a Leeds fan, and he cannot stand Mings in the same way that I hate Bamford, and he hasn't got a racist bone in his body.

[PaulWinch again]

Villa undoubtedly have racist ****** among our support. They've never been in the majority, though, like at Leeds, Millwall, Chelsea, Lazio, Zenit, etc.

And I'm not labelling all Leeds fans. Just the ones that abuse Tyrone Mings and none of our other players. Because they're racist ******.

Yup. It’s sad, and unacceptable, that there are any fans with those attitudes at any club. But Leeds have an especially high volume of them.