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Author Topic: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes  (Read 242736 times)

Offline Nev

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #630 on: October 12, 2022, 01:17:05 PM »
Jesus fucking Christ.

He’d do a good job. Worked miracles at his last place.

Can’t deal with crosses though.

"It's early days, we are disappointed with the result of course but you can't expect miracles"

"well, you say that......"

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #631 on: October 12, 2022, 01:34:38 PM »
I thought Edens had a reputation of being a no nonsense, touch decision making bugger - did he not sack the fans favourite coach at the Basketball team he owns only to appoint a coach that won him the league?

Surely he can see we are going no where?

The only thing i can think of is that they realise with such key new recruits missing it would obviously effect performances and results and they accept that

I would say that Digne, Kamara and Carlos were fundamental to our team this season and are huge losses.

However they must be anxious that they were convinced to sign up Phil only for him to be as flat as a witches tit in most games.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #632 on: October 12, 2022, 01:52:14 PM »
I see Wolves preferred choice has turned  them down

Thai has made me smile.

Cheeky massage?
Phuket!

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #633 on: October 12, 2022, 02:00:35 PM »
I thought Edens had a reputation of being a no nonsense, touch decision making bugger - did he not sack the fans favourite coach at the Basketball team he owns only to appoint a coach that won him the league?

Surely he can see we are going no where?

The only thing i can think of is that they realise with such key new recruits missing it would obviously effect performances and results and they accept that

I would say that Digne, Kamara and Carlos were fundamental to our team this season and are huge losses.

However they must be anxious that they were convinced to sign up Phil only for him to be as flat as a witches tit in most games.

My hope in all this is that this management team operates on pre-scheduled reviews where the manager has a set of targets to meet to that point and if they're not hitting them then cheerio.

Bruce and Smith both went after 11 games. Without the cancellation for the queen that would've meant after Chelsea but I don't know if they'd shift for the number of matches or if the date would've been fixed when the fixtures were known (or of course if this is anything but a fantasy on my part).

So, After Chelsea or after Fulham and there's a review. We obviously have no idea what the targets would be but my target would be 50points for the season. That would be at least 13 points after Chelsea and 15 points after Fulham. The former is now impossible but the latter could happen with 2 wins.

Sacked after Chelsea would give us 3 full days to get someone in for Fulham, after Fulham would be 2 days, both very tight which is why I'd personally have acted this week. The 'squeeze' on fixtures before the world cup means there's no other windows that are significantly better so it becoms a question of who the interim coaching and management would be and how many of his legion would leave with him.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #634 on: October 12, 2022, 02:08:17 PM »
This is pure guesswork but I think the reason he's still is here is to do with the following:

1) The owners aren't quite as invested, financially or emotionally as they were a year or two ago. They still want the business to do well, but aren't prepaped to go all in to get European football. On the flip side of the same coin, they're also not that bothered to sack Gerrard until things get really terrible, eg bottom three on the back of a few losses in the next few games. Boring football and just about doing enough lately is therefore not a sackable offence as it stands.

2) Gerrard has still got Purslow in his corner. I'm sure Purslow will be making the case to the owners that in his opinion we've been hugely unlucky with injuries and that's had a material detrimental effect on the team. That backing will only go so far, but if the owners go against him now they've potentially got the arse ache of replacing a new CEO as well.

All just supposition of course, but to me it makes sense.


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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #635 on: October 12, 2022, 02:31:56 PM »
This is pure guesswork but I think the reason he's still is here is to do with the following:

1) The owners aren't quite as invested, financially or emotionally as they were a year or two ago. They still want the business to do well, but aren't prepaped to go all in to get European football. On the flip side of the same coin, they're also not that bothered to sack Gerrard until things get really terrible, eg bottom three on the back of a few losses in the next few games. Boring football and just about doing enough lately is therefore not a sackable offence as it stands.

2) Gerrard has still got Purslow in his corner. I'm sure Purslow will be making the case to the owners that in his opinion we've been hugely unlucky with injuries and that's had a material detrimental effect on the team. That backing will only go so far, but if the owners go against him now they've potentially got the arse ache of replacing a new CEO as well.

All just supposition of course, but to me it makes sense.



I think that's very likely correct. I fear we are now back into the Martin Swain quote from twenty years ago about how there's a tidy living to be made at the Villa provided we keep ticking over and things don't look too bad.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #636 on: October 12, 2022, 02:54:58 PM »
I don't think Gerrard is going to get the sack at any point before the World Cup, and probably not for the rest of the season to be honest.

Excellent. See you all in division 2 then.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #637 on: October 12, 2022, 02:57:07 PM »
Can we go get Franck Haise?

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #638 on: October 12, 2022, 03:01:33 PM »
It can t end with relegation surely? After everything we went through to get out of that division last time around? If you could see something on the pitch I would give him time. But there's nothing. Flat, insipid performances every time, and it's been a year. We've went backwards since Dean and for that reason alone he has to go.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #639 on: October 12, 2022, 03:12:20 PM »
This is pure guesswork but I think the reason he's still is here is to do with the following:

1) The owners aren't quite as invested, financially or emotionally as they were a year or two ago. They still want the business to do well, but aren't prepaped to go all in to get European football. On the flip side of the same coin, they're also not that bothered to sack Gerrard until things get really terrible, eg bottom three on the back of a few losses in the next few games. Boring football and just about doing enough lately is therefore not a sackable offence as it stands.

2) Gerrard has still got Purslow in his corner. I'm sure Purslow will be making the case to the owners that in his opinion we've been hugely unlucky with injuries and that's had a material detrimental effect on the team. That backing will only go so far, but if the owners go against him now they've potentially got the arse ache of replacing a new CEO as well.

All just supposition of course, but to me it makes sense.



I think that's very likely correct. I fear we are now back into the Martin Swain quote from twenty years ago about how there's a tidy living to be made at the Villa provided we keep ticking over and things don't look too bad.

Well that's pretty depressing. Are we back to hoping to be taken over by some different billionaires again...?

I don't want to write these owners off yet, obviously. They have an awful lot of credit in the bank still. Surely they'll see that it's not sustainable to tread water in this league - you are only ever one bad appointment away from disaster, which could knock hundreds of millions off the value of the club.

I had seen on Twitter that they are supposed to be at the match on Sunday. I'll believe it when I see it, obviously, but I think they need to be. Purslow claimed the other week that he speaks to them both every day (he may not have been telling the truth), so I'd like to think they were both still engaged. I'm clinging to the idea that it is all about timing - they are waiting to get rid of Gerrard until they have the next one lined up. Because it's all too depressing if what you suspect is true.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #640 on: October 12, 2022, 03:18:14 PM »
Any thoughts on Postecoglou at Celtic? Just putting it out there…. I mean, we have a great record of plundering ex Old Firm managers

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #641 on: October 12, 2022, 03:21:02 PM »
Any thoughts on Postecoglou at Celtic? Just putting it out there…. I mean, we have a great record of plundering ex Old Firm managers

He wouldn't be top of my list but I'd have him over the incumbent in a heartbeat.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #642 on: October 12, 2022, 03:26:44 PM »
Any thoughts on Postecoglou at Celtic? Just putting it out there…. I mean, we have a great record of plundering ex Old Firm managers

I watch Celtic fairly often and he does encourage fast paced, attacking football with width. The 3 nil lead they took against the Zombies was in no small measure down to that speed and aggression, no sooner had the ball gone out for a goal kick Hart had another ball in his hands courtesy of the ball boy and their opponents struggled to reset time and time again and the game was all but done by half time. It's the polar opposite of the way we play but transferring that to the PL is a risk and some may not take kindly to us recruiting from there once again and there will be even less patience this time around.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #643 on: October 12, 2022, 03:28:43 PM »
If Paul Merson can pronounce his name, I'd take him.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation/Hopes
« Reply #644 on: October 12, 2022, 03:30:40 PM »
If Paul Merson can pronounce his name, I'd take him.

Can Merson even pronounce “Birmingham” yet?

 


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