Quote from: paul_e on October 12, 2022, 11:51:30 AMQuote from: chrisw1 on October 12, 2022, 11:42:08 AMQuote from: cdbearsfan on October 12, 2022, 11:34:15 AMAs I said, very unlikely we are after a new manager in December. Gerrard'll be sacked by the World Cup, or given serious time to turn it around. There would be little point in allowing him to stay on, watch the World Cup, have another transfer window and then sack him, if the board still didn't think he was up to it.The World Cup finishes in December. In this nightmare scenerio that must never come to pass Southgate would be joing just in time for the Jan transfer window. As he's basically got fuck all to do before the WC (how hard is it to pick 10 players around Mason Mount?), he's even got time to watch videos of our games and line up our swoop for Harry Maguire.Yes but the point that CD is correctly making is that if we sack Gerrard before the world cup we'll have filled the vacancy by then and if we haven't then why would we sack him between the end of the world cup and the january window when no games will have been played and we'll have had a month of a 'bonus pre-season' for the coach to work with most of the squad. The timing just doesn't make sense, if Gerrard is still with us on the 15th November then he'll still be with us until at least March because it doesn't make sense to do anything else.Again, in this entirely hypothetical and hopefully entirely unlikely scenerio, the point would be to replace him with Southgate who isn't available until then. The logistics work fine. Just hopefully we're not stupid enough to go for it.
Quote from: chrisw1 on October 12, 2022, 11:42:08 AMQuote from: cdbearsfan on October 12, 2022, 11:34:15 AMAs I said, very unlikely we are after a new manager in December. Gerrard'll be sacked by the World Cup, or given serious time to turn it around. There would be little point in allowing him to stay on, watch the World Cup, have another transfer window and then sack him, if the board still didn't think he was up to it.The World Cup finishes in December. In this nightmare scenerio that must never come to pass Southgate would be joing just in time for the Jan transfer window. As he's basically got fuck all to do before the WC (how hard is it to pick 10 players around Mason Mount?), he's even got time to watch videos of our games and line up our swoop for Harry Maguire.Yes but the point that CD is correctly making is that if we sack Gerrard before the world cup we'll have filled the vacancy by then and if we haven't then why would we sack him between the end of the world cup and the january window when no games will have been played and we'll have had a month of a 'bonus pre-season' for the coach to work with most of the squad. The timing just doesn't make sense, if Gerrard is still with us on the 15th November then he'll still be with us until at least March because it doesn't make sense to do anything else.
Quote from: cdbearsfan on October 12, 2022, 11:34:15 AMAs I said, very unlikely we are after a new manager in December. Gerrard'll be sacked by the World Cup, or given serious time to turn it around. There would be little point in allowing him to stay on, watch the World Cup, have another transfer window and then sack him, if the board still didn't think he was up to it.The World Cup finishes in December. In this nightmare scenerio that must never come to pass Southgate would be joing just in time for the Jan transfer window. As he's basically got fuck all to do before the WC (how hard is it to pick 10 players around Mason Mount?), he's even got time to watch videos of our games and line up our swoop for Harry Maguire.
As I said, very unlikely we are after a new manager in December. Gerrard'll be sacked by the World Cup, or given serious time to turn it around. There would be little point in allowing him to stay on, watch the World Cup, have another transfer window and then sack him, if the board still didn't think he was up to it.
Quote from: chrisw1 on October 12, 2022, 12:10:53 PMQuote from: paul_e on October 12, 2022, 11:51:30 AMQuote from: chrisw1 on October 12, 2022, 11:42:08 AMQuote from: cdbearsfan on October 12, 2022, 11:34:15 AMAs I said, very unlikely we are after a new manager in December. Gerrard'll be sacked by the World Cup, or given serious time to turn it around. There would be little point in allowing him to stay on, watch the World Cup, have another transfer window and then sack him, if the board still didn't think he was up to it.The World Cup finishes in December. In this nightmare scenerio that must never come to pass Southgate would be joing just in time for the Jan transfer window. As he's basically got fuck all to do before the WC (how hard is it to pick 10 players around Mason Mount?), he's even got time to watch videos of our games and line up our swoop for Harry Maguire.Yes but the point that CD is correctly making is that if we sack Gerrard before the world cup we'll have filled the vacancy by then and if we haven't then why would we sack him between the end of the world cup and the january window when no games will have been played and we'll have had a month of a 'bonus pre-season' for the coach to work with most of the squad. The timing just doesn't make sense, if Gerrard is still with us on the 15th November then he'll still be with us until at least March because it doesn't make sense to do anything else.Again, in this entirely hypothetical and hopefully entirely unlikely scenerio, the point would be to replace him with Southgate who isn't available until then. The logistics work fine. Just hopefully we're not stupid enough to go for it.Ok so your point was that if he decides he's going to walk away regardless of how England do and if we find that out and decide he's the only option to be our next manager and we agreed to either wait on sacking Gerrard or operate without a manager during the break then, and only then, Southgate could be an option? I mean I see you've backtracked on it in a later post but does anything in that scenario seem remotely likely to you, if you're honest about it?
Quote from: cdbearsfan on October 12, 2022, 12:12:38 PMThere is no guarantee Southgate will be available anytime soon. Sitting around with no manager waiting in the vain hope that they lose to a combination of Iran, America and Wales would be beyond madness.Sigh, my point was he may fancy it however he does in the world cup. He's been in the England job for 6 years with 3 major tournaments under his belt, it's possible he'd fancy a challenge.
There is no guarantee Southgate will be available anytime soon. Sitting around with no manager waiting in the vain hope that they lose to a combination of Iran, America and Wales would be beyond madness.
I see Wolves preferred choice has turned them down Thai has made me smile.
Who could possibly know when you're being 'tongue-in-cheek' given the amount of nonsense you post? I honestly wouldn't have been surprised if you thought Southgate was a good choice. More importantly what CD and myself were pointing out is that, whether you were serious or not, the timing doesn't make sense so even if we wanted him it wouldn't happen in the way you described.
Quote from: paul_e on October 12, 2022, 12:42:47 PMWho could possibly know when you're being 'tongue-in-cheek' given the amount of nonsense you post? I honestly wouldn't have been surprised if you thought Southgate was a good choice. More importantly what CD and myself were pointing out is that, whether you were serious or not, the timing doesn't make sense so even if we wanted him it wouldn't happen in the way you described.OK Paul, thanks for you analysis.Now, do you think we can attract Harry Maguire in Jan?
Quote from: aldridgeboy on October 12, 2022, 12:55:00 PMI see Wolves preferred choice has turned them down Thai has made me smile.Cheeky massage?
Jesus fucking Christ.
Quote from: chrisw1 on October 12, 2022, 01:12:37 PMJesus fucking Christ.He’d do a good job. Worked miracles at his last place.