Next Manager Speculation/Hopes

[frank black]

Steve Bruce is available

He should always be available IMO

[Axl Rose]

Steve Bruce is available

Anyone up for giving him a second chance? Haha

[chrisw1]

"Rangers" don't play in the SPL. I deliberately excluded the European trophies when listing completions he had failed to win as considered that an unfair expectation. He did okay in the Europa League, his successor has already bettered any of his achievements in Europe.

The Sevco stuff is tedious too.  Grow up.

Someone's in a sulk today. Feel free to debate the argument or don't, I don't care either way.

There's no point debating it, I know the arguments for both sides.  The ownership of the club doesn't define it's history or spirit, no matter how much glee them going into liquidation gave you.  We probably came pretty close ourselves, and it's just the type of insult Blues fans would have loved to level at us as we fought out way back.  But we all would have remained fans and still seen it as our club, with our history playing at our ground in our colours.  No matter the technicalities of ownership.

I'm not a Rangers fan nor a fan of Scottish football.  I have no afinty for them whatsoever.  I can just identify Blues levels of obsession when I see it.

Hatred of bigotry and Far Right politics makes me "Blues", sure. This is a pretty shoddy post even by your standards. Rangers died.

Not at all.  Your level of obsession is similar to Blues.  The Sevco thing is childish.  Tha't all.

[LeeB]

I don't think it's fair to disparage his record at Rangers in honesty, and I think when you do it looks like you're looking for reasons to dislike him, when the shite football we have to watch is enough on it's own.

I agree, his record at Rangers was fine, not spectacular but not a failure. His spending was massive in scotland but not ridiculous compared to teams in other leagues. Coupled with everything else it suggested he was an ok manager but was so inexperienced in genuniely competitive football (as a manager obviously) that he'd never been challenged in a way he inevitably would be with us.

What the last year has shown is that when things aren't working he struggles to turn it around and his only success has come from stripping away almost all creativity and attacking flair to protect a clean sheet and hope for something on the counter attack. We've had that strip back approach 3 times now and the first 2 times it gave a short term boost but he couldn't sustain it, I suspect we're going to see a hattrick on that front betwene now and the world cup but if he does actuallly work it out this time he'll save his job and hopefully start to look like he knows what he's doing.

Spot on Paul.

He may someday work it out and be a good manager, I don't think he's incompetent, just he should never have been given this job at this stage of his career.

[cdbearsfan]

If you want to tolerate bigotry, that's up to you. Don't castigate others for having higher moral standards.

[chrisw1]

I should add that I like your posts and your posting style CD, you're one of my favourite posters on the site.  I was just pointing out that im my opinion your views on Gerrard and his spell at Rangers aren't entirely balanced.

I've come to agree with you on his abilities as a manager in the PL, just not with the same level of venom.

Cheers and apologies if I've wound you up.

[LeeB]

Steve Bruce is available

Anyone up for giving him a second chance? Haha

He'd steady the ship, vertically, but still.

[cdbearsfan]

I should add that I like your posts and your posting style CD, you're one of my favourite posters on the site.  I was just pointing out that im my opinion your views on Gerrard and his spell at Rangers aren't entirely balanced.

I've come to agree with you on his abilities as a manager in the PL, just not with the same level of venom.

Cheers and apologies if I've wound you up.

Ha, ta mate! You're alright, sorry for being an arse. Lots of people are pissing me off today (not you or anyone on here).

[Lastfootstamper]

Whilst doing some research earlier regarding filling a Brucey Bingo card, I was reminded that Newcastle are the only PL club to appoint him since the noughties. And he's not won three in a row in the PL since he was at Wigan, January 2009.

[eamonn]

Steve Bruce is available

He should always be available IMO

Chicken & Basket circuit after-dinner speaking in down-at-heel towns. I'd say he'd be good craic and tell a decent story or two.

[nigel]

I fear Poch has already turned us down otherwise he would be here now.

Why do people keep saying that? There's no evidence of that whatsoever.

Agree,
He must have been sounded out by some of these managerless clubs, but he’s still available.
I actually think he’s keeping one eye on our situation.
Obviously, though, he won’t hang around forever

[Toronto Villa]

I don't think it's fair to disparage his record at Rangers in honesty, and I think when you do it looks like you're looking for reasons to dislike him, when the shite football we have to watch is enough on it's own.

Agreed Lee. It might be Scotland, and some may sneer at that, but what he achieved was impressive breaking Celtic’s domination. It wasn’t luck. He learned as he went. He had help. All managers need that. Pep and Sir Alex haven’t and didn’t do it all alone. And they both spent a fortune buying in some of the best talent ever to help out. So criticize him when he deserves it but reserve praise when it’s warranted also.

The reason I want Gerrard gone, other than the results since January, is that I simply don’t see the shoots of improvement. Collectively or individually. The football is abysmal. He is literally trying now to keep the score 0-0 and pinch a goal. There are clubs with less talent than us playing much better football, yet he’s crawled into a very conservative shell. He created an entirely unnecessary bomb squad. Without merit created a captaincy issue because his ego needed “his captain”, which has been a resounding failure. He has destroyed whatever was left of Coutinho. He is shitting on Cam Archer’s promising career because he has this misguided belief in Watkins and Ings. And in their defence I suppose we don’t even create great chances for them. And when we do Watkins misses them all. We have one of the lowest work rates in the league. He is a miserable prick in the media when giving interviews. Our connection to the club doesn’t have to be where it was with Dean Smith but it’s as far away as possible with the environment created by Gerrard. That’s why I’m done with him.

[LeeB]

I don't think it's fair to disparage his record at Rangers in honesty, and I think when you do it looks like you're looking for reasons to dislike him, when the shite football we have to watch is enough on it's own.

Agreed Lee. It might be Scotland, and some may sneer at that, but what he achieved was impressive breaking Celtic’s domination. It wasn’t luck. He learned as he went. He had help. All managers need that. Pep and Sir Alex haven’t and didn’t do it all alone. And they both spent a fortune buying in some of the best talent ever to help out. So criticize him when he deserves it but reserve praise when it’s warranted also.

The reason I want Gerrard gone, other than the results since January, is that I simply don’t see the shoots of improvement. Collectively or individually. The football is abysmal. He is literally trying now to keep the score 0-0 and pinch a goal. There are clubs with less talent than us playing much better football, yet he’s crawled into a very conservative shell. He created an entirely unnecessary bomb squad. Without merit created a captaincy issue because his ego needed “his captain”, which has been a resounding failure. He has destroyed whatever was left of Coutinho. He is shitting on Cam Archer’s promising career because he has this misguided belief in Watkins and Ings. And in their defence I suppose we don’t even create great chances for them. And when we do Watkins misses them all. We have one of the lowest work rates in the league. He is a miserable prick in the media when giving interviews. Our connection to the club doesn’t have to be where it was with Dean Smith but it’s as far away as possible with the environment created by Gerrard. That’s why I’m done with him.

That's pretty much it pal.

[chrisw1]

I'm not fussed about his interview style, in fact I quite like it.  But otherwise I pretty much agree with all that TV.

[Toronto Villa]

My mate who is a Rangers fan told me exactly how it all would go. Now granted he had success up there so the post defeat press conferences were less frequent. But all the same snarky comments and body language. The combative posture and expressions. The I know better than you body language. It’s fine if you are Alex Ferguson or Mourinho when your trophy cabinet needs its own house. But when you are on your way having done very little, and especially at a higher level like the PL, then be humble. And when you are being your version of humble and you lose again stop saying shit you are not changing or will change. Stop being stubborn and genuinely try something new to get us going again. But like all managers on their last legs he will revert to form and die on that hill.